AMD phenom II X6 hexacore vs Intel i7 quad HT

[radaja]

how many computers do you have? if you have at least two, then you can set up up remote desktop, or use VNC to connect to your crunching computer remotely. once you set that up, take out the video card, boot the machine, and if it successfully boot, then you should be able to connect to it remotely from the other computer. it should be crunching while it's on. then use the video card to set up your other cruncher

how do i setup remote desktop?
i have my 920 running with vista x64
my i7-870 with win 7 x64
i have two video cards now but only one monitor at the moment.
so if i fire up the i7-920 and start WCG and unplug the monitor
and let it just crunch away,how do i connect them with remote
desktop to be able to control the i7-920 rig with my i7-870 rig?
any help would be greatly appreciated,because like i said im good
with the hardware i just suck at software side of things

and what is VCN?

[WhiteFireDragon]

radaja, you can use windows default remote desktop, realVNC, or ultra VNC. i recommend ultra VNC, it's by far the easiest remote desktop application and runs right after you install, no need for tweaks to your router, firewall, or any port forwarding.

DL and install the complete package here to both machines, then on your machine you want to control, install the server. do this same thing from the computer that you're using to control the other machine, but open the VNC viewer instead, and just type in the local IP of the computer to be controlled. that's all there is to it

[radaja]

thank you WhiteFireDragon,i'll be up and running in no time

[WhiteFireDragon]

so you got it up and running, yeah?

[radaja]

not yet.but im working on it.

EDIT:success!!! its crunching and im controlling it from my i7-870 rig!
thanks for the help and link for ultra VNC WhiteFireDragon,your the man

[charged3800z24]

I have mine running @ stock. Once I get 7 days or so on it I'll share my results. so for it looks like 1055T @ stock = 20k. so easy math says if It were oc'd @ 4.0 ghz you'd be looking at ~ 27k. I am *hoping* to get a good board (its running on a 95w ecs mobo... has me SCARED..) and then get it on phase I wanna see > 30k.

you should be able to get more than 27k at 4.0 if its getting 20k stock.

My 1055t is running 4ghz. I don't have it running exactly 24/7, due to gaming and benching, but I am getting 27000 a day even with that little down time.

[WhiteFireDragon]

not yet.but im working on it.

EDIT:success!!! its crunching and im controlling it from my i7-870 rig!
thanks for the help and link for ultra VNC WhiteFireDragon,your the man

great! always nice to see 1 more cruncher up and running

My 1055t is running 4ghz. I don't have it running exactly 24/7, due to gaming and benching, but I am getting 27000 a day even with that little down time.

mine is at 3.7ghz, dedicated cruncher running 24/7, and it's only getting 22-23k/day . this seems a little low? would output increase if i raised the HT or the NB frequency?

[soya_crack]

mine is at 3.7ghz, dedicated cruncher running 24/7, and it's only getting 22-23k/day . this seems a little low? would output increase if i raised the HT or the NB frequency?

Well, mine is @3,6 ,too and does the same amount of PPD. So don't worry.

[charged3800z24]

great! always nice to see 1 more cruncher up and running



mine is at 3.7ghz, dedicated cruncher running 24/7, and it's only getting 22-23k/day . this seems a little low? would output increase if i raised the HT or the NB frequency?

If I am calculating this correctly 4014.52(boinc) x7 = 28,101.64(WCG)

my settings are
4.05ghz 1.47v (overvolts .1)
2400NB 1.15v
1600 cas 8
2400HT
300HT Ref

[INFRNL]

My 1055t is running 4ghz. I don't have it running exactly 24/7, due to gaming and benching, but I am getting 27000 a day even with that little down time.

thats looking very good for AMD, definately close to an intel; especially for the price

still need more results though. I might have to give in and test it for myself

[karbonkid]

Sorry if the answer to my question is already answered here, I've skipped through the thread (i know, i know, naughty me)

Has anyone tried comparing these two under a 64-bit linux distro? I would be interested to know how much the gap closes or whether roles are reversed...

[stangracin3]

bump if anyone has any updatess on ppd for a phenom II X6

highest ive got is 28k with it at 3.5GHz with 2500 NB bumped it to 3.75 GHz and 2700 NB

[slaveondope]

3.7ghz/2ghz NB/2ghz HT/1600mhz 99924 RAM/Win7x86=~22-23K PPD as seen below
I ran 4ghz 2.8ghz NB for awhile the improved NB/RAM doesnt improve anything from my observations. On a full 6 day run got ~25k at 4ghz on Win7x64.
Still just 1ppd/mhz/core for AMD

[WhiteFireDragon]

ah i had results several months ago, just never posted them, so here they are if anyone is still interested:






amd x6 @ 3.7ghz
21k PPD
195w

i7 @ 3.7ghz
28k PPD
165w

i basically had the lowest voltage possible at 3.7ghz for both, all other parameters the same except CPU and motherboard (the PSU, memory, OS, BOINC, etc all the same). the i7 wins by a large lead in both power consumption and PPD. does anyone have any results where the X6 has higher output under similar paramters as your i7's?

[stangracin3]

CPU @ 3.75 @ 1.37 volts 300 * 12.5
CPU-NB @ 2700 @ 1.35 (could prolly lower volts, but that means stability testing again)

i got just over 23k per day WCG
ive now bumped it to 3.9 GHz @ 1.42 volts 300 * 13
will report back in a few days

EDIT: about 5-6 hours into wcg it crashed

set back down to 3.8 now
304 * 12.5
bumped up the NB a bit to

[jcool]

amd x6 @ 3.7ghz
21k PPD
195w

i7 @ 3.7ghz
28k PPD
165w

Damn, that is even worse than I had calculated... now image you are running Intel Hexas like TRN's or my L5640's... they don't draw more power but put out 50% more than a Bloomfield i7... 42k @ 170W vs. 21k @ 196W
I do hope Bulldozer is gonna be a real success for crunching. Just sold my last two AMD rigs with the 3800+ X2 getting too old for HTPC duties and the QUad Opteron drawing too much power - I really want to have an AMD again in the mix.