Fermi delayed again !

[STEvil]

1 more week delay .... so, what's the delayed date, April 2nd? or 1st?
i hope Nvidia is not going ahead for their yearly April jokes, that ain't funny anymore

well, that would answer the wood screws

[Decami]

posting this again, and for every delay that comes after lol.

[N19h7m4r3]

Which ever has the better performance gets ordered. But again... my criteria isn't max FPS, but min.

If only everyone in the world worked like that.

Most people sadly only look at max FPS, and there are far too many fanboys/girlz out there.

[blindbox]

If only everyone in the world worked like that.

Most people sadly only look at max FPS, and there are far too many fanboys/girlz out there.

My criteria is a graph that shows the fps during the benchmark. You're not going to mind much about a 10 fps min that lasts for a split second, and only at one particular occurrence, compared to a 20 fps min that lasts for like 10-30 seconds or more.

Don't you guys mean average fps instead of max fps?

[dctokyo]

Vegas News update……….the odds of "Duke Nukem Forever" coming out before Fermi has improved a 100%

[N19h7m4r3]

My criteria is a graph that shows the fps during the benchmark. You're not going to mind much about a 10 fps min that lasts for a split second, and only at one particular occurrence, compared to a 20 fps min that lasts for like 10-30 seconds or more.

Don't you guys mean average fps instead of max fps?

True that type of benchmark is usually the best, but most places don't put up the video tests.

Also I personally know people that swear by Max fps, which I just find weird.

The same applies for Avg fps, i'd rather have a card that spits out decent and consistant min fps that one that' Max i very high, but min dips far to low to often.

[Decami]

True that type of benchmark is usually the best, but most places don't put up the video tests.

Also I personally know people that swear by Max fps, which I just find weird.

The same applies for Avg fps, i'd rather have a card that spits out decent and consistant min fps that one that' Max i very high, but min dips far to low to often.

entirely true, but, and before i say this im not one of those people that swear on max fps, but, usually, and im not saying even close to all the time, the card with the higher max (or max average) fps, usually does well with minimum as well, maybe 60/40, still buying based on minimum average is the way to go.

I wish every GFX card review, had a minimum average, an average, and a maximum average.
minimum/maximum average meaning, when it dips, or raises, how long, and how often.
i guess thats what the average is judging, but a massive number for a small time, can manipulate that, and vice versa.
I want details dangit!

[JoeBar]

NVidia delays the delayed...

Why is this news...?

[Vinas]

posting this again, and for every delay that comes after lol.

That's classic. Again enjoying my 5870's ... gonna go get a full cover block for my birthday. my wife already approved cause I'm not spending 500 on a new card (again lol) !! I game with 3 monitors and while games are playable on high 3840x1024, the frame do dip into the 20's sometimes so I think the FC block will be a better investment than another 5870. Forget about nvidia, they have their heads up their **** ever since the 8800GTX

[Decami]

the rest of the life of nvidia:

nvidia:Fermi release date announcement! yay!
AMD/ATI:ATI release date for new card and numbers months before!
Nvidia: dangit, delay! back to the drawing board to match it....
ATI: benches released owned!
Nvidia: oh crap, we were so close with Fermi V6.0
ATI: new series card available, it rocks DX12 and ray tracing in games.
Nvidia: dangit, we can still only do NV bench ray tracing, drawing board again...
Nvidia: wait, we cant go to the drawing board, we are out of money, its been 4 years and we havent released a card, wasnt even paying attention guys but we are bankrupt by midnight tomorrow. OOPS!!

[RaZz!]

entirely true, but, and before i say this im not one of those people that swear on max fps, but, usually, and im not saying even close to all the time, the card with the higher max (or max average) fps, usually does well with minimum as well, maybe 60/40, still buying based on minimum average is the way to go.

I wish every GFX card review, had a minimum average, an average, and a maximum average.
minimum/maximum average meaning, when it dips, or raises, how long, and how often.
i guess thats what the average is judging, but a massive number for a small time, can manipulate that, and vice versa.
I want details dangit!

yep, that's the reason i really like the ingame benchmark from FEAR, which not only shows min, avg and max fps, but also the fps distribution: percentage of frames below 25fps, between 25 and 40fps and above 40fps. which gives you a pretty good picture of how the game actually runs.
if not the reviewers do collect that data, well, then make every game have such an ingame benchmark so that reviewers can just copy&paste these results

[Musho]

That's classic. Again enjoying my 5870's ... gonna go get a full cover block for my birthday. my wife already approved cause I'm not spending 500 on a new card (again lol) !! I game with 3 monitors and while games are playable on high 3840x1024, the frame do dip into the 20's sometimes so I think the FC block will be a better investment than another 5870. Forget about nvidia, they have their heads up their **** ever since the 8800GTX

Another 5870 will give you better FPS than a slightly better overclock due to watercooling on your GPU. The GPU block will be cheaper than another 5870, though

[NaMcO]

sure and they are allowed to sell them to the public???? sure .....

Fcoz not. But they're not gonna make it in time, shipment is ~3 to 4 days so only next week monday or tuesday.

I don't know why you're doubting, we got Core i3 before they were allowed to sell as well even though launch date was respected.

[Vinas]

If you give the GTX480 to honest journalists, they will likely say that the two cards, the GTX480 and the HD5870, show equivalent performance, so we hear Nvidia is doing its best to keep the GTX480 out of the hands of the honest. This means that only journalists who are known to follow the "reviewer's guide" closely, are willing to downplay the negatives, and will hit the important bullet points provided by Nvidia PR will be the ones most likely to gain early access to these cards. If this sounds unethical to you, it is, and it's not the first time. This is exactly what Nvidia did to cut Anand, Kyle and several others out of the GTS250 at launch. That worked out so well the last time that Nvidia will probably try it again. Expect fireworks when some people realize that they have been cut out for telling the truth.

The end result is that the GTX480 is simply not fast enough to deliver a resounding win in anything but the most contrived benchmark scenarios. It is well within range of a mildly upclocked HD5870, which is something that ATI can do pretty much on a whim. The GTX480 can barely beat the second fastest ATI card, and it doesn't have a chance at the top.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...gtx480-scores/
Last two paragraphs are the main reason I haven't bought nVIDIA since my $700 8800GTX ultra. Dishonest company is dishonest.

[Decami]

yeah im pretty much done with nvidia. Unless 480GTX trumps ATI's 5 series (and it wont) I am out of the green game. been an nvidia fan for a long time, its about time for 2x5870s after Fermi releases. Now im not leaving the green team cause I hate them, or their lies, or the renaming, or wood screws, or Jen, or delays, or announcements, or announcements of delays of announcements, its just because they have nothing to offer really lately. 2x5870s should do it for me. Bye bye Nvidia, ill miss you, well not you, I will your drivers (sort of) and your green and black colors ( i freaking hate red) and your gloating, cause lets face it, gloating just owns, but you have nothing now, see ya, and go fly kite.......with an announcement of a delay on it.

[NaMcO]

My thoughts exactly and why i went the 5970 way. It was time for a change for me anyway, had nvidia on my main rig ever since the 6800GT.

[Musho]

If this continues, we'll have Fermi competing against Northern Islands

[Mad1723]

If this continues, we'll have Fermi competing against Northern Islands

I think if AMD could have done it, they would have

[Chrono Detector]

If NVIDIA keeps this BS up Fermi will end up like "Duke Nukem Forever", I mean seriously, WTF. These guys had 6 months to prepare and they announced it has been delayed for whatever reason.

[yngndrw]

You know what would be really awesome ? If it was actually released with a free copy of Duke Nukem Forever.

[SamHughe]

man, hitler is not going to be pleased with this news.

ROFL I am looking forward to this.

[Syn.]

ROFL I am looking forward to this.

good news! you didn't have to wait long... well not as long as for the actual product to come out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZXhR1ibj8

There was also a clip with him getting angry about the delayed announcement few months back but i cant find it anymore.

[damha]

man, hitler is not going to be pleased with this news.

That has made me laugh like no other for a while. Brilliant.