Micro ATX case for water cooling?

[Shryne]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1699/cart001.jpg

is this fitting right?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25274

and it will fit on all blocks, pumps, reservoirs, rads, etc?

[Waterlogged]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1699/cart001.jpg

is this fitting right?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25274

and it will fit on all blocks, pumps, reservoirs, rads, etc?

The things I see wrong with that is, it says 1/2" fittings for the BIP and I'm under the impression that the ones P-PC's are getting have the soldered barbs on them. This means that if you decide to change the loop to 1/2" I.D. tubing down the road, you'll either need a new rad or some crappy 1/2" to 3/8" reducing adapters. I'd send an e-mail to them and find out first if you think it's going to be a potential problem for you.

Also noticed that the MCP655 is the "B" version. It's a single setting pump that is set at speed setting 4 on the Vario version which makes it a bit weaker. You'll need to select the MCP655 "with speed controller" in the drop menu, it's still $10 cheaper than the Koolance version.

3/8" I.D. tubing is very difficult to get over the 1/2" fittings on the MCP655. Just boil some water and dip the end of the tubing in it for ~20-30 seconds and it should make it a little easier to get it on. Use zip ties or some kind of clamp as well.

Yep, those are the right fittings for that tubing. Enzo claims they are 20mm O.D. which tells me they should fit everything just fine

[Shryne]

let me repeat that conclusion to see if i understand.
Those Enzotech fittings will fit all the parts (except maybe the rad). The pump, CPU block, reservoir, etc.
The rad may have soldered ends and that means i may need a new rad in the future. (if i get that rad i need to use a clap or zip-tie)
be sure to get the speed controller on the pump! The pump is fixed at 1/2'' ID but with a little trick i can fit the 3/8'' (boil 20-30 secs)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2524/cart002.jpg
lastly here is the final cart, do i need any more fittings for the reservoir? or other misc parts for this water loop?
what about fluid? what additives do i need? distilled water is the base?
(do i need more fittings?)

[Waterlogged]

let me repeat that conclusion to see if i understand.
Those Enzotech fittings will fit all the parts (except maybe the rad). The pump, CPU block, reservoir, etc.
The rad may have soldered ends and that means i may need a new rad in the future. (if i get that rad i need to use a clap or zip-tie)
be sure to get the speed controller on the pump! The pump is fixed at 1/2'' ID but with a little trick i can fit the 3/8'' (boil 20-30 secs)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2524/cart002.jpg
lastly here is the final cart, do i need any more fittings for the reservoir? or other misc parts for this water loop?
what about fluid? what additives do i need? distilled water is the base?
(do i need more fittings?)

You'll need to add 7ft to your tubing and coils (depending on if you want to sleeve the entire tubing with it). You'll also need to add 2 or 4 to your fittings depending on the rad. I really would check with P-PC's about the rad first so you will know for sure before ordering.

[dejanh]

let me repeat that conclusion to see if i understand.
Those Enzotech fittings will fit all the parts (except maybe the rad). The pump, CPU block, reservoir, etc.
The rad may have soldered ends and that means i may need a new rad in the future. (if i get that rad i need to use a clap or zip-tie)
be sure to get the speed controller on the pump! The pump is fixed at 1/2'' ID but with a little trick i can fit the 3/8'' (boil 20-30 secs)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2524/cart002.jpg
lastly here is the final cart, do i need any more fittings for the reservoir? or other misc parts for this water loop?
what about fluid? what additives do i need? distilled water is the base?
(do i need more fittings?)

- 10ft of tubing minimum
- anti-kink coils are a complete waste of money with the Primochill tubing (the tubing bends very well as you can see in my HTPC build)
- in my personal opinion compression fittings are a waste unless you are going for show only; good quality Bitspower barbs with worm-drive clamps are the best and probably like 1/3 of the price
- you should not get the MCP655; you should get MCP355 with an aftermarket top like EK-DDC X-Top Rev 2...the size is much more compact and the performance is very good, especially if you add more blocks since it has much higher head pressure than the D5 (MCP655)

The number of fittings (barbs and/or compressions) you will need completely depends on number of components you have and whether you are re-using any stock barbs (e.g., using stock barbs of the pump), obviously 2 per component.

[Shryne]

i was going to do the compression for show, and they are flippin' pricy! may have to scale back on the kink coils.....
mcp355, i cannot find the aftermarket top you are referring to, unless its this;
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24825
you bring up a good point and i need the compact pump. head pressure is good, what about the max flow (gallons per hour / litre per min)?
how does that top make a significant difference?

[dejanh]

i was going to do the compression for show, and they are flippin' pricy! may have to scale back on the kink coils.....
mcp355, i cannot find the aftermarket top you are referring to, unless its this;
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24825
you bring up a good point and i need the compact pump. head pressure is good, what about the max flow (gallons per hour / litre per min)?
how does that top make a significant difference?

That's the top IIRC MCP355 with a good aftermarket top has very good flow *and* high pressure. Flow should not be far from that of D5, possibly even a bit better but you will get significantly better pressure with a much smaller footprint. With your setup your flow will be >1.25GPM, likely even >1.5GPM.

[meanmoe]

Save yourself some cash on those enzo fittings...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-042-_-Product

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-034-_-Product

I have 6 enzo compressions and 2 barbs that came with a saphire block. They're not as pretty as my bitspowers, but they look nice and do the job. (cheap too). I have no complaints anyway.

[Shryne]

What about fluid?
do i use just distilled water?
what if i want it a color? which dye is best?
what do you guys recommend?

EDIT and how much should i purchase?
i gather Distilled water and a biocide, anti-corrosive, and "waterWetter" is best combo?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=1955
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23985

[dejanh]

What about fluid?
do i use just distilled water?
what if i want it a color? which dye is best?
what do you guys recommend?

EDIT and how much should i purchase?
i gather Distilled water and a biocide, anti-corrosive, and "waterWetter" is best combo?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=1955
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23985

For fluid use pure distilled, nothing else. Water-wetter is useless and will only hurt your temps. It is designed for extreme temperatures in car engines, not for water cooling systems where temps never reach past 30-ish Celsius. For "biocide" use silver coils, or alternatively get four (4) or so silver plated fittings from Bitspower and use them in your loop. That should be enough to keep the loop clean unless you are blasting it with light all the time.

In terms of color, you should not use dye in your fluid. You should use straight distilled and buy colored tubing. Primochill pretty much comes in every color as far as I know.

[Shryne]

Alright. ive bought all the goods, but the CPU back plate came stripped so im waiting again on a replacement. Fired her up. all other components work. But i am now coming to full realization of the impossibilities of making it work in this case. I see how it can all work as i hoped but i do no posses the tools and facilities to do the necessary work. As much as i love small cases...i need to be a bit bigger... i will do some research in that now but am interested in your suggestions here.

[dejanh]

Alright. ive bought all the goods, but the CPU back plate came stripped so im waiting again on a replacement. Fired her up. all other components work. But i am now coming to full realization of the impossibilities of making it work in this case. I see how it can all work as i hoped but i do no posses the tools and facilities to do the necessary work. As much as i love small cases...i need to be a bit bigger... i will do some research in that now but am interested in your suggestions here.

So what issue are you having now? You don't want to mod your case?

[Shryne]

Oh i do want to mod the case. But i thought i did not have the access to the power tools. Luckily i asked a client of mine and he said i can borrow his jigsaw! so now i can cut to fit the rad in this case. I will not give up yet!!
I did get a bad back plate for my CPU block and now am waiting for the replacement... so on hold for the moment.
Also ive been looking at mofest and NB coolers (SB too) but none say Asus Rampage II Gene specifically.
I assume when the say "rampage II Extreme" and X58 Asus motherboard" it will fit mine but i wanted a confirmation.
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