crosshair II was spot on no reason this should be off at allOriginally Posted by chew*
Ehh screw the stars man, I don't even notice them I go by thread starter and viewsLooking forward to some results
Can you probe that puppy for me and show us vdroop under load SF3d?
Looks like the 8 leg IC top of board closest to blue dimm slot may be "A" read point, probably not the best but should give us an idea at least.
Thats like me saying that Ultra durable 3 790FX is spot on so the previous 790FX is also a good board.....or the maxximus forula II kicks ass for 45nm so it's brother maxximus formula also kicks ass with 45nm.....
This is a totally diff board man, not even the same chipset......
With your mentality I am going to make one board that works real well and call it the OMG WTF 1337 HAX edition.......all other boards to follow are going to be utterbut you will buy them because the first one was good and you will buy based on a name only.....
Last edited by chew*; 05-29-2009 at 05:30 AM.
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the crosshair series has always been spot on for volts is what i meant the crosshair I and crosshair II have been spot on for voltages. its part of the series the boards are meant for overclocking voltages should be spot on thats part of the name.Thats like me saying that Ultra durable 3 790FX is spot on so the previous 790FX is also a good board.....or the maxximus forula II kicks ass for 45nm so it's brother maxximus formula also kicks ass with 45nm.....
This is a totally diff board man, not even the same chipset......
With your mentality I am going to make one board that works real well and call it the OMG WTF 1337 HAX edition.......all other boards to follow are going to be utter
You totally missed my point so I will put it bluntly......
Assumption is the mother of all
You trust in a name, I will trust what SF3D gets out of a multimeter
Let's not derail this anymore......
Last edited by chew*; 05-29-2009 at 06:23 AM.
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board wont vdroop i would put money on itYou totally missed my point so I will put it bluntly......
Assumption is the mother of all
You trust in a name, I will trust what SF3D gets out of a mutlimeter
Let's not derail this anymore......
YOu won't drop it will you?
Rex didn't have vdroop either.......it just detonated caps on the backside.....Let the man test the board and stop letting your love of asus blind you......and clutter this thread.
FYI the PWM is identical to that of the m4a79 deluxe which you have not used and that has major problems with voltage regulation.......Which is why I requested what I requested.....
Last edited by chew*; 05-29-2009 at 06:26 AM.
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Vdroop is 0.01V in any condition. Without LLC enbled it is the same as M4A79T Deluxe. (0.06-0.07V)
But well, it seems that the latest bios is not the best possible. Some weird issues with NB multipliers etc.
You are as good as your samples are!
Thx SF3D, If you freeze it let me know if voltage stays consistent or runs away on you in the higher range.
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isn't the design the same 8+2 PWM they use on the entire top end line up? like the crosshair II, M4N82, M4A78, etc?
and i wouldn't call it a love for asus as much as a hate for GB. i used several of there boards and dislike the design and setup.
also if your counting i have 2 Asus mobo's, 2 XFX, 1 jetway, 1 abit and 2 ECS i really don't mind brands i pick what looks best for the money. oh and honestly my favorite mobo as of right now is a little MATX XFX 8200 board its the best little mobo i have personally ever used, but it also only has a little sempron dual core on it so a real chip may give me a different opinion on it
and here is case in point its funny how the flagship mobo has no vdroop issue's which is exactly what i said would happen
@SF3D you don't have anything close to a retail BIOS yet right? its just an early beta?
Last edited by cdawall; 05-29-2009 at 07:10 AM.
Just because its 8 + 2 does not mean its identical..........case in point take a close look at an x38 asus versus an x48 asus.......can you see a diff? No but one board loves 45nm and the other doesn't...
My main concern is not vdroop because I know how to work with it......more so if the voltages remain consistent throught the entire voltage range.....
If requested 1.35v = 1.29-1.28 I would hate to see what you call vdroop....
Most of the more experienced guys don't use LLC just some FYI
Be interested if the voltage holds true with that droop throughout all voltage ranges or gets a mind of its own after 1.63v as does the m4a79 deluxe which decides to toss 1.675- 1.70v when once you go past 1.625v........
Last edited by chew*; 05-29-2009 at 12:52 PM.
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No Vdroop is worse than a small Vdroop
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Aww come on massman you don't use LLC either?No Vdroop is worse than a small Vdroop
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No, I have Vdroop on all my setups :-)
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Vdroop is there just to be sure that cheap PWM designs will not fail under high load. If you have some droop, you can use cheaper parts etc.
Board without droop is very good for overclocking. In this case, the board is optimized for high current flow through PCB and Vdroop is minimal. I can tell you, it is a lot better than M4A under hevay conditions.
Check the thread Samspa made: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=225278
Board is more stable on extreme conditions, that is for sure.
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First I have to apologize, that I haven't got any time to update this thread.
I just put these parts together and started to look where I can get with very quiet aircooling on the CPU.
Results are expected and the temprerature is the limiting factor.
Setup
Asus Crosshair III (Will be M4A79T Deluxe in that computer)
Phenom II X4 955 Black edition -Retail (Will be 3.6GHz in Bronze setup)
A-Data D9GTR
ATI Radeon 4890 (70% fan speed and 1025/1150 clocks on these test. On Bronze setup the clocks will be 900/1025)
Thermaltake 1200W TP PSU
ROG OC station
03
05
06
Vantage
This is very solid motherboard for basic overclockers, but I have a feeling, that this mobo will show it's full potential only under very Xtreme conditions. On air everything is just too easy with this.
Only negative sidenote is the PCI-E slots. Only 2 is not enough at the moment. 3 would have been good and 4 perfect. Well.. 5870X2 or something similar will fix the lack of PCI-E sockets.
More to come later
You are as good as your samples are!
Looking good
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Wonder, what exactly are those A-Data D9GTR? (I understand that its Micron D9GTR.. but which ones has those inside?)
i7 930 D0 - 4,2 GHz + Megashadow
3x4GB Crucial 1600MHz CL8
Foxconn Bloodrage rev. 1.1 - P09
MSI HAWK N760
Crucial M500 240GB SSD
SeaGate ES.2 1TB + 1TB External SeaGate
Corsair HX 850W (its GOLD man!)
ASUS STX + Sennheiser HD 555 (tape mod)
Old-new camera so some new pics will be there.. My Flickr My 500px.com My Tumblr
Ive got my CPU and ram but that board is worth waiting for since im planning to some benching under Ln2
SF3D, any idea how much that OC Station will cost? Is it a worth upgrade for someone into benching?
Ram is A-Data 1600X 2GB set. (The old one) Those are the safe clocks, so nothing special in there yet
OC station is nice with this board, but you dont need it with some other ASUS boards. It is very easy to use and looks quite good on the table.
You are as good as your samples are!
one step further today. My room is just too hot for aircooling
Well.. memory seems to overclock well on this motherboard. I can use 7-6-5-16-33 settings easily at 2.15V. NB seems to clock well too.
Memory is still 7-6-6-16-35 in this screen.
Then I decided to see how far my 4890 can go on air.
Enough memory speed? (No throttling in there)
I think next I will use some LN2 with this mobo. Aircooling is just too boring
You are as good as your samples are!
SF3D .... I was wondering if this board has the ability to unlock cores on x2 and x3 chips?
nice with 1.4...TRy max AIR OC andmax validation with AIR too. And superpi, cinebench please (i need setings for 16 000+ Cinebench R10 64, i have only 15 500 to time)
ROG Power PCs - Intel and AMD
CPUs:i9-7900X, i9-9900K, i7-6950X, i7-5960X, i7-8086K, i7-8700K, 4x i7-7700K, i3-7350K, 2x i7-6700K, i5-6600K, R7-2700X, 4x R5 2600X, R5 2400G, R3 1200, R7-1800X, R7-1700X, 3x AMD FX-9590, 1x AMD FX-9370, 4x AMD FX-8350,1x AMD FX-8320,1x AMD FX-8300, 2x AMD FX-6300,2x AMD FX-4300, 3x AMD FX-8150, 2x AMD FX-8120 125 and 95W, AMD X2 555 BE, AMD x4 965 BE C2 and C3, AMD X4 970 BE, AMD x4 975 BE, AMD x4 980 BE, AMD X6 1090T BE, AMD X6 1100T BE, A10-7870K, Athlon 845, Athlon 860K,AMD A10-7850K, AMD A10-6800K, A8-6600K, 2x AMD A10-5800K, AMD A10-5600K, AMD A8-3850, AMD A8-3870K, 2x AMD A64 3000+, AMD 64+ X2 4600+ EE, Intel i7-980X, Intel i7-2600K, Intel i7-3770K,2x i7-4770K, Intel i7-3930KAMD Cinebench R10 challenge AMD Cinebench R15 thread Intel Cinebench R15 thread
Found a place in the UK that has just got them in stock £140.45 OVERCLOCK.CO.UK.
Would this board be a better pick over the m4a79t deluxe for watercooling the 955?
Price difference doesn't seem to be too high, but I don't have a clue what would be better.
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