OCZ Vertex Drives

[Griff805]

but I would like to highlight that there are some MLC's that outperform SLC's

What do you mean by "outperform"? If you're talking only about max throughput, then yes that statement is true. If you look at most other aspects, this is typically, not true. I think people need to remember that there is more to a drive's performance than just max read/write speeds.

[Rhys]

What do you mean by "outperform"? If you're talking only about max throughput, then yes that statement is true. If you look at most other aspects, this is not true. I think people need to remember that there is more to a drive's performance than just max read/write speeds.

So your X25-m wouldn't outpace this SLC bad boy? http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/163...ive/index.html

Edit: “The Bottom Line: The Crucial CT32GBFAB0 gave us a good first look, but when it comes to real world performance the drive ran out of fizz and performed like a bad MCL drive.”

"but I would like to highlight that there are some MLC's that outperform SLC's"
Should my above statement be amended to something more accurate?

[Griff805]

So your X25-m wouldn't outpace this SLC bad boy? http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/163...ive/index.html

Edit: “The Bottom Line: The Crucial CT32GBFAB0 gave us a good first look, but when it comes to real world performance the drive ran out of fizz and performed like a bad MCL drive.”

I forgot to put typically in my post-

[Rhys]

I forgot to put typically in my post-

And because what you said is typically true, I think my comment still stands.

"I know the X25-e is a great performer being SLC. but I would like to highlight that there are some MLC's that outperform SLC's, so I believe the metric to determine if a drive is 'High End' should not be based on "is it SLC or MLC?"
but how does it perform relative to the cross section of other ssd's available!"

[Griff805]

Anyone getting close to spec numbers on the Vertex in both Read and Write?

[theystolemyname]

So do these stutter at all? I'm considering a 30gb or 60gb vertex for a new asus 1000he netbook. I'm not going to put up with any problems such as stuttering though; in that case I'd just happily grab an intel x-25m and completely forget about ocz stuff.

[Wolf132]

I ordered a 60gb and got it for little over 200$ after rebates and discounts. Should be here next Wednesday. Will let you know if it stutters.

[koc]

looks like vertex play very nice with adaptic raid card

2x30GB Vertex on Adaptec 5805


Vertex: 30gb x 3 + Adaptec 5405






2x Vertex 120G Adaptec 2405 Raid


from OCZ forums

[JRW21]

I don't see how that first screenshot of the 2 vertexs showing over 800mb/s is real. There has got to be something else going on to achieve those numbers. That is DOUBLE the amount of read speed of the combined drives total read speed.

[F@32]

That image
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9846/atto.png

is not on this thread anymore.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=218753

Any way, I can't trust 800 MB/s of just 2 vertexes.

[CyberDruid]

Hmmm.

Does the larger capacity Vertex stack up to a G Skill Titan? I'm playing with that now and am taking a wait and see on the degradation issue. @ $300 for 128GB it's priced better than the OCZ product.

Any ATTO on a single Vertex using the onboard controller?

Here's an ATTO of my Titan on the D5400XS

[One_Hertz]

I don't see how that first screenshot of the 2 vertexs showing over 800mb/s is real. There has got to be something else going on to achieve those numbers. That is DOUBLE the amount of read speed of the combined drives total read speed.

It's just the cache of the raid card.

[Halk]

The Vertex will be better than the Titan. The Titan is an internally RAID0'ed drive. The Vertex is a single drive, plus it has cache.

[Paxi]

The Apex is also internally RAID0´ed or not?

[XS Janus]

So has anyone somewhere done some real life file copy and multitasking tests or are we still throwing all those hundreds of MB synthetics around in awe and waiting for some bad news to hit the fan when first batches are sold out?
Where are all those review sites at?
All I see is lots of trusting people buying their drives blindly and testing ATTO, IOmeter... +one maybe two slim and early reviews...

[Brahmzy]

The Apex is also internally RAID0´ed or not?

Apex = Titan
Same SSDs, slightly different firmware giving the Titan the edge.

I'm very close to purchasing 3 120GB Vertex's. The read speeds are almost exactly what my Titans do, but the writes are a different story. Write performance is pretty solid on the new Vertex's.

The OCZ forums have a bunch of people's first hand experience using their brand new Vertex's. Yeah, there's a lot of noobs on there running synthetic benchmarks, but there's also quite a few threads with some valuable info.

Nobody has reported any stuttering as of yet except for one guy. He has 2 Vertex's in R0, and said he gets pauses when copying HUGE amounts of data to the array, but the info is sketchy in his post.... so far I think people are pleased.


But yeah, I need more info before dropping another $1,200...

OR, I just keep my Titans since they're working just fine, just a little slower on the writes....

[Halk]

Brahmzy, really don't see the point if you have SSD already, the improvement will be minimal for a large amount of money dropped.

[JRW21]

The Apex is also internally RAID0´ed or not?

Yes, apex are internally raid 0. So, basically...60gb apex is technically two 30gb ssds in Raid 0.

[Rhys]

2x30gb raid 0 128k Aligned, 128k stripe, On board ICH10R, XP OS drive 1/4 full.
No sign of stutter what so ever!

No tweaks yet except disk Alignment and WB cache enabled.

[CyberDruid]

The Vertex will be better than the Titan. The Titan is an internally RAID0'ed drive. The Vertex is a single drive, plus it has cache.

Better how? Single drive to single drive how could it be better?

Are you saying the Titans do not scale as well in RAID?

Are there some metrics you could show me to back that?

[One_Hertz]

Better how? Single drive to single drive how could it be better?

Are you saying the Titans do not scale as well in RAID?

Are there some metrics you could show me to back that?

It is much better at small random writes. 10-20 per second on the Titan and 2450 per second on vertex. That is the biggest difference. You may or may not notice it depending on your usage patterns. Vertex also reads faster, but the difference is not too drastic. If you are happy with your drive right now and see no stuttering then just keep it...

[lowfat]

Better how? Single drive to single drive how could it be better?

Are you saying the Titans do not scale as well in RAID?

Are there some metrics you could show me to back that?

It has cache, better IOPS. Will handle smaller read/writes better.

[CyberDruid]

Thanks guys. When I got the Titan I knew absolutely nothing about it But the price was too good to pass up.

[Griff805]

Any other benchmarks? PCmark Vantage, CrystalDisk, MFT-

[StickyRICE]

Hmmm.

Does the larger capacity Vertex stack up to a G Skill Titan? I'm playing with that now and am taking a wait and see on the degradation issue. @ $300 for 128GB it's priced better than the OCZ product.

Any ATTO on a single Vertex using the onboard controller?

Here's an ATTO of my Titan on the D5400XS

How come your atto scores are low on the Titan drive? When I had my 256g titan with atto it was right at 160write and 250 read. This was on the R2E ICH10r.