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    I imagine reviewers used Ctrl+F, replace all 9800GTX+ with GTS250, save document and publish it again. Lol...
    Oh and change the verdict slightly just to look a bit different. Yup, thats GTS250.
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    yawn, i wonder how they will do in SLI?....cough

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    After checking out Guru3d's and TechReport's reviews the initial reports of only "special" cards seem to add up. Also, I can't understand why Guru3d choose to display their data the way they do. Why do I have to check every single chart to see if the colour for the different cards have changed?! I can understand that you display them in order of performance but why not keep the same colour during the whole test?! Very annoying.

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    They will do about same that 9800GTX+ as they are basicaly same cards.


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    I like the looks of the palit card in the guru review.

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    I like the fact that Guru3d justified the review because of the new pricing. Should have been loads of reviews of the 4850s and 4870s out also

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    Went through couple of the reviews rather quickly (Techreport, Driverheaven). I was left wondering why the card was mainly tested at rather high resolutions with 8x anti-aliasing? This is a mainstream card so why no test it in resolutions like 1280x1024?

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    ^ because I believe we are in a somewhat slow downed era compared to 2-3 years ago when mainstream GPU can't do games @1600x1200 and beyond..... and the point is that we can still get some nice performances from a sub $200 GPU todays.

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    Hmm didn't expect the reduction in power consumption. So all in all, it's a smaller, cheaper 9800GTX with lower power consumption and equivalent performance. Hopefully that should be good enough to clear their inventory and let us get back to business with future products.

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    Fot THAT price is this CARD GREAT porduct, far better then HD 4850 ... especially with 1 GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    Fot THAT price is this CARD GREAT porduct, far better then HD 4850 ... especially with 1 GB
    Far better?
    GTS250=HD4850 (both have 512Mb,1gb and OC versions)
    And for that price of the 1Gb -> 150$++ you pick one HD 4870 that is far far far far far far far far far better then GTS250 measured by your standarts of "far better".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    Fot THAT price is this CARD GREAT porduct, far better then HD 4850 ... especially with 1 GB
    did you see the price drop announcement of 4850-4870 series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miksu View Post
    Went through couple of the reviews rather quickly (Techreport, Driverheaven). I was left wondering why the card was mainly tested at rather high resolutions with 8x anti-aliasing? This is a mainstream card so why no test it in resolutions like 1280x1024?
    nVidia only sent overclocked 1GB cards to the reviewers, and forced them to review only at high resolutions and heavy AA where the extra RAM makes a difference.
    nVidia did this for the card to look faster than the HD4850, but it also led to some pretty ridiculous results:

    I mean, what's the point?


    All in all, they kind of achieved that, because as you can see, we can already see some enthusiastic comments from.. let's call them "less informed readers", like this one:
    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    Fot THAT price is this CARD GREAT porduct, far better then HD 4850 ... especially with 1 GB






    - Overclocked out-of-the-box GTS250 1GB will be priced near the HD4870 1GB, which is a lot faster.
    - Vanilla GTS250 1GB will be priced near HD4870 512MB, which is a lot faster.
    - Vanilla GTS250 512MB will be more expensive than the HD4850 512MB, which is faster because we all know the 9800GTX+ scores.

    So unless power consumption really is a big concern for the buyer (and cudos for nVidia engineers to lower it drastically), IMHO there's really no sweet-spot for any of the GTS250 cards.
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    Is Anandtech review working to anyone?

    Is Nvidia buying reviews?

    1- Guru3D put one GTS250 with 2Gb of ram. It will be super expensive and will go ahead HD 4870 in price but in that review only use a standart HD 4850 512Mb to compare.

    2- This review:
    http://techgage.com/article/evga_gef...superclocked/2
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    3- Next:
    Where is bit-tech's GeForce GTS 250 review?
    You've probably heard the news by now: Nvidia announced the GeForce GTS 250 this morning at CeBIT and yes, the rumours are true - it's a rebranded GeForce 9800 GTX+.

    But that's not the real story.

    Normally, you'd expect us to have a review of the card on launch day, but that is sadly something we haven't been allowed to do. Nvidia had remained uncharacteristically quiet - both on and off the record - about the GeForce GTS 250 for one reason or another and we didn't find out about the card until Tuesday last week.

    On Thursday, we had a conference call and were essentially told in no uncertain terms that we wouldn't get a sample before launch. But why?

    This is where things get a bit trickier because Nvidia palmed us off to the partners - it said that it wasn't sending out reference cards and they'd instead be coming from partners. What we found strange about this was that, typically, in the run up to a graphics card launch we receive anywhere between five and ten calls from add-in board partners, asking us to look at their new products.

    We didn't receive a single call this time around.

    Instead, we had to resort to making those calls ourselves and, to our surprise, the general consensus from partners was that they were prohibited from sending samples to bit-tech and Custom PC before launch.


    One partner, who wished to remain nameless said "[we are] absolutely strictly forbidden to send samples out until the launch date.... it’s rubbish!" Another said it was instructed by Nvidia to send samples to specific websites which, the partner admitted, it had never even heard of.

    We spoke to six partners before the launch and not one said it was allowed to sample us before the launch. Several said they were able to help us out "after CeBIT", but by that time it's old news and, frankly, I'm not sure it's worth the effort.


    I spoke to Nvidia last night and the company actively denied its involvement in the sampling process and, upon further probing, the company's representatives said that sample allocations came down to "relationships with Nvidia and its partners". When I asked if something in bit-tech's relationship with Nvidia had changed since the GeForce GTX 295 and 285 launches, Bryan Del Rizzo, a Senior PR Manager at Nvidia, said that nothing had changed. "We have a great relationship with bit-tech," he added.

    We asked the same question when speaking to partners all week and they said exactly the same thing, which means that someone, somewhere, is getting in the way of the sampling process. The question is: why would the partners lie to us? They have no reason to because our relationship has always been tight and they've been up front when they have sample allocation issues.

    Nvidia said it is cutting back on samples (as are the partners) and that allocation is tight. However, since we've managed to get a card same day couriered to us today, you have to wonder if the situation would have been different had the card been something to shout about.

    While we wait for our card to arrive, we're going to be playing with our GeForce GTS 250 TipeXXX Edition... It's wicked fast.
    http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/03...ts-250-review/

    4- Join to this the Hardware.fr story plus [H] story.

    5- So while some reviews give them a suberb score the Hexus review they give to GTS250 only 64% of score; the techreport oe pcper donīt say nothing special in conclusion -> GTS250=9800GTX+.

    6- Anandtech review pulled out?
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    No, it was pulled off the site.

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    I read the Anandtech one before it was pulled, and I've never read anything so negative there before.
    It mentioned the renaming, their shure about the exact same performance as the 9800gtx but they never got a review sample from Nvidia and only heard from nvidia after the article from the inq, it even said Nvidia thinks of its customers as idiots and at the end they even thank charlie from the inq...

    Guess theres enough reasons there to get Nvidia pissed but is that a reason to pull it?

    I really have no love for Nvidia right now but I still hope they don't go down so I can still buy Ati cards for real cheap in the future

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    Ooh, did anyone save the Anandtech article before it went offline? Sounds like a fun read.
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    lol now the only review I do want to see is anandtech's.

    They most probably received a phone-call from nVidia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz View Post
    lol now the only review I do want to see is anandtech's.

    They most probably received a phone-call from nVidia.
    Now Now. Let's be nice.

    Although it wouldn't surprise me if it it DID happen, Anand isn't someone to mince words and the GTS 250, although competent, doesn't seem to jump leaps and bounds above the 4850 due it its 8xAA Multi-Sampling performance also sometimes known as "Free 8xAA".

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    How do you search googles archived pages?

    I want to peruse the article from anand
    http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3523

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    Excerpt from taken-down Anandtech Article:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anandtech
    First it was the 8800 GT, then the 8800 GTS 512, then the 9800 GT then the 9800 GTX and shrunk down to the 9800 GTX+. Now it's the GeForce GTS 250
    Cached results are hard to find but they're there.

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    Unfortunately the current reviews are less than valid IMHO. NVidia is attempting to put out only those reviews which put the 250 in a great light... manipulating the information in this way helps them sell to the unknowing but p*sses off those who pay attention. Hopefully we can get more trustworthy reviews after GA date.
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