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Thread: Kingston teases 4GB DDR3 modules, slaps 24GB into a Core i7 system

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    Kingston teases 4GB DDR3 modules, slaps 24GB into a Core i7 system

    Using GIGABYTE's GA-EX58 UD5 motherboard, Intel's Core i7 920 processor, NVIDIA graphics and half-a-dozen 4GB ValueRAM DDR3 engineering samples, it's showing off the 24GB DDR3 desktop. If you're inclined to simultaneously run numerous virtual machines, take a look:

    *Video at source*

    It's a fun little teaser for a Friday morning, but don't expect 4GB DDR3 modules until later in the year. Worth noting, too, that Kingston claims its pre-production 24GB kit (6x4GB) cost over $2,000 to produce. Ouch.
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    Ya I don't think I'll be upgrading to 24GB anytime soon.

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    3 gig does all I need..
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    *looks at sig and decides, no, I don't need more ram*

    What would be interesting though would be just how horrible the timings are with 24GB, especially with the UD5 they used as that board sets the timings allready to horrible values with 12GB (can be fixed by manually adjusting them, but requires volts, volts and more volts).

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    I would do 24GB...16GB is the minimum for my next machine anyway.
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    I wouldn't touch 24GB w/o ECC. That much RAM is best used by a home user for a large ramdrive. Big permanent ramdrives simply require ECC. Anything else means you don't value your data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speederlander View Post
    I wouldn't touch 24GB w/o ECC. That much RAM is best used by a home user for a large ramdrive. Big permanent ramdrives simply require ECC. Anything else means you don't value your data.
    1MB or 24GB is the same in terms of ECC. Not sure why you think it requires ECC just because its 24GB. Any data corruption is data corruption. The chance aint gonna be any bigger with your 24GB than with your 4x256MB old DIMMs etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    I would do 24GB...16GB is the minimum for my next machine anyway.
    My next machine will have 6x1 gig DDR3-1333 ECC..
    3 gig per cpu..
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    That would be a kickass way to build a virtual machine host for very cheap. HT helps too - 8 threads, 24 gigs = VM galore. Very economical.
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    Man, does any normal (mainstream) or even gamer need more than 4Gbs of RAM?

    Lets improve the voltages and timings on current DDR3 modules and stop thinking about 24gbs RAM sticks please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    1MB or 24GB is the same in terms of ECC. Not sure why you think it requires ECC just because its 24GB. Any data corruption is data corruption. The chance aint gonna be any bigger with your 24GB than with your 4x256MB old DIMMs etc.
    The bit error rate per GB is constant, yes, but multiplied by the number of GB of RAM means more errors as the amount of ram goes up.
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    I'll be upgrading soon to i7 with 12gbs.. 6 is too low for what I need and I think 12 its too much, my 8 right now is the sweet spot
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim142 View Post
    Lets improve the voltages and timings on current DDR3 modules and stop thinking about 24gbs RAM sticks please!
    Uhm, this is about 4Gb sticks not twenty-four. Even bothered to check the vid? or read the thread at all? o_O

    When these will kick off the lower density sticks will drop in price and their newer revs will possibly sport lower power consumption aswell thus higher overclock... I can only see upsides to 4Gb dimms on the market so hurry up and release them already Kingston and whoever else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speederlander View Post
    The bit error rate per GB is constant, yes, but multiplied by the number of GB of RAM means more errors as the amount of ram goes up.
    What is the bit error rate per GB? per what time period?

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    3x2GB should be more then enough for most people. Though if we got CHEAP 4GB modules that would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullack View Post
    What is the bit error rate per GB? per what time period?
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=18

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    they should market DDR4 .. or DDR5
    they are already work used for GPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    That would be a kickass way to build a virtual machine host for very cheap. HT helps too - 8 threads, 24 gigs = VM galore. Very economical.
    I wish it was cheap, but I don't think it is. The article says the prototype kit costs $2000 to produce, so the retail probably won't be much cheaper. Also you will need a fast (read: expensive) disk array if you are going to run enough VMs to make use of that much RAM.

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    and I thought 8gb was total overkill, this is just crazy.

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    Man thought 16Gig was overkill in my work computer originally til I chewd up 15.8Gigs of ram one day. Now I can see practical use for that much. 4Gigs in my machine was good enough but.... well 6Gigs will suite me soon, 8 would be nice but 12 would be my next logical step forward after 6Gigs now.

    Overall though 24Gigs in a home system, yup I could see it in cases. Lots of VM's would defiantly utilize that up nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    they should market DDR4 .. or DDR5
    they are already work used for GPU
    GDDR4/GDDR4 != DDR3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speederlander View Post
    I wouldn't touch 24GB w/o ECC. That much RAM is best used by a home user for a large ramdrive. Big permanent ramdrives simply require ECC. Anything else means you don't value your data.

    It's alot easier than that. If you don't back up your data you don't value it. It doesn't matter if your using a floppy, a HDD, a RAM Drive, a SSD, an old Tape Drive or even Optical Media. If you don't back it up consider it gone because it's not a matter of if, but when.

    All data has a date written on it, and that date is invisible. When that date comes, POOF! there goes your data. Your Back has a date in excess of the original, so when POOF! happens, you get the backup, and rebuild, and reback and so on.

    ECC is overrrated. If you backup you don't need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    My next machine will have 6x1 gig DDR3-1333 ECC..
    3 gig per cpu..
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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Flight View Post
    ECC is overrrated. If you backup you don't need it.
    So when a bit flip occurs in the kernel or a device driver and your sys crashes, thats fine too?

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    man !! the video is awsome

    when he starts the vm and u see the mem bar start going up ,
    and the two last machines gives the i7 abit challenge as it take half a second more to start them...

    i think as mentioned here 16gb or yea even 24gb can be used on desktops and that is the best part.
    no more tweaking in order to minimize the ram usage.. there is plenty of it now.
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