Anand: PII vs. Q9550 vs. i7 crossfire, Phenom II = smoother

[accord99]

COD
yea you right it was only for that one game Thank god you guys opened my eyes

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that particular statement refers only to COH since it was in the COH page and also because, as you have nicely pointed out, the Intel platforms did not have minimum fps problems in the other games and generally being higher, even if the reviewer could not readily observe it.

[Titan7171]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that particular statement refers only to COH since it was in the COH page and also because, as you have nicely pointed out, the Intel platforms did not have minimum fps problems in the other games and generally being higher, even if the reviewer could not readily observe it.

Is that all you got out of all those quotes?? I guess now this reviewer who was so competent all these years praising Intel is now incompetent and didnt observe the right results in the tests......how convenient.

Bring the pitchforks and torches to the AMD section......we going on a witch hunt!

[roofsniper]

The conclusion of the Anand article was, as far as stuttering (min fps) is concerned, The PII 940 and the q9550 are about equal with the PII being ahead in some games; but in the end the i7 is the best overall.

Out of that conclusion you came away with PII IS TEH BESTEST HURR DURR.

Sometimes I wonder if you people are sobbing while you type.

where did this come from? i think we have been comparing phenom II with core 2. i7 has nothing to do with this. have you even read a post yet? and for your info this is me when i read posts like yours:

[roofsniper]

Bring the pitchforks and torches to the AMD section......we going on a witch hunt!

thanks for a new sig.

[Zucker2k]

where did this come from? i think we have been comparing phenom II with core 2. i7 has nothing to do with this. have you even read a post yet? and for your info this is me when i read posts like yours:

Maybe you're in the wrong thread; at least title mentions Ci7?

[Raiderman]

...........and the flames begin!

Why is it that I think some people from the "other" part of the forum have "spidey" senses

[Titan7171]

thanks for a new sig.

No problem glad it wasnt one like Shintai's......"the future is not in L3 cache".......or that "another year of Nvidia dominance"

[Titan7171]

No, it's because your lack of reading comprehension means that you're not actually understanding what the reviewer said in that particular statement.

Oh look the smarties from the other side of the lake are here........dey gun teechus ta reed wurds

Hold on to it tight ok..............you want to nitpic be my guest, the many quotes say it all.....

no noticable difference in performance except on COH where intel had stuttering...simple right

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[.Tret]

where did this come from? i think we have been comparing phenom II with core 2. i7 has nothing to do with this. have you even read a post yet? and for your info this is me when i read posts like yours:

Please tell me that you are trolling me. If not, I feel sorry for you.

[Zucker2k]

...........and the flames begin!

Why is it that I think some people from the "other" part of the forum have "spidey" senses

You must think some of us come here to confine ourselves to one subforum. It's a good thing there are members like gallag and accord that are interested in these comparisons and actually come into these threads to set the record straight; all you have to do is scroll a few posts up and you'll see how a quote pertaining one game COH was taken out of context. It happens all the time, and the records get straightened all the time, albeit with much hostility from some you. I mean shouldn't the truth be worth something?

On topic: I think some software company like futuremark should be able to develop a benchmark that tests the "smoothness" of framerates (which in this instance would probably mean how tightly the lowest and highest frames are rendered) through a battery of intense graphic and processor scene and then capturing how fast frames are rendered.

[roofsniper]

Maybe you're in the wrong thread; at least title mentions Ci7?

maybe you haven't read any posts or even the article. if you actually read the article theres a q9550, a i7 920 and a phenom II 940. in the article they are comparing the cpus in a xfire test. thats where i7 steps in. then if you also read the article they say the 940 is smoother than the q9550 but that i7 is the best of them all. so just because i7 is in the title doesn't mean that phenom II is smoother than it. i hope i saved you the time of reading the article since obviously you haven't yet.

[Glow9]

Please tell me that you are trolling me. If not, I feel sorry for you.

It wouldn't be the first time Roofsnipers done this. But apparently only his opinion matters in the AMD forum because he tries to shout the loudest with some kind of delusional authority. But usually he just makes fanbois look like idiots and gives him a sense of meaning in his life. It's good he fufills the stereotype, if he doesn't who will?

[roofsniper]

Please tell me that you are trolling me. If not, I feel sorry for you.

actually im not trolling im just trying to clear up what you wrote. and don't feel sorry for me i feel sorry for you that you can't remember something you wrote less than an hour ago.

Out of that conclusion you came away with PII IS TEH BESTEST HURR DURR.

It's a good thing there are members like gallag and accord that are interested in these comparisons and actually come into these threads to set the record straight

wow i have had a new sig for 20 minutes and it looks like i might have another already.

[Zucker2k]

maybe you haven't read any posts or even the article. if you actually read the article theres a q9550, a i7 920 and a phenom II 940. in the article they are comparing the cpus in a xfire test. thats where i7 steps in. then if you also read the article they say the 940 is smoother than the q9550 but that i7 is the best of them all. so just because i7 is in the title doesn't mean that phenom II is smoother than it. i hope i saved you the time of reading the article since obviously you haven't yet.

You just repeated what he said and you flamed him for. Before you say anything, he was actually summarizing the conclusion. So where did he go wrong? Also, I read the conclusion of the article; both on AT and in many quotes here. See what I mean?

[roofsniper]

It wouldn't be the first time Roofsnipers done this. But apparently only his opinion matters in the AMD forum because he tries to shout the loudest with some kind of delusional authority. But usually he just makes fanbois look like idiots and gives him a sense of meaning in his life. It's good he fufills the stereotype, if he doesn't who will?

has anyone actually read this thread yet? because it seems that everyone that posts has no idea what they are talking about.

[Zucker2k]

has anyone actually read this thread yet? because it seems that everyone that posts has no idea what they are talking about.

Shows how confused you are. I bet you're in the wrong thread.

[roofsniper]

You just repeated what he said and you flamed him for. Before you say anything, he was actually summarizing the conclusion. So where did he go wrong? Also, I read the conclusion of the article; both on AT and in many quotes here. See what I mean?

actually he said that everyone is saying that phenom II is better than everything including i7. what people are saying here is i7 > phenom II > core 2.

[Titan7171]

Ok guys Im going to play some games...we all have good cpu's some more expensive some a little cheaper but all do what we need them to do.... have fun arguing.

[Zucker2k]

actually he said that everyone is saying that phenom II is better than everything including i7. what people are saying here is i7 > phenom II > core 2.

Then you better read the OP, and scroll up to the period after the correction was made.

AT's conclusion was that PH II is competitive IN GAMING

Recommendations

1. If you have AMD hardware and considering an upgrade get PH II

2. If you have Intel hardware and considering an upgrade get a C2Q

3. If cost is not a concern, get a Ci7

Edit: The Intel chips are in general better all-rounded chips compared to the PH II

[roofsniper]

Recommendations

1. If you have AMD hardware and considering an upgrade get PH II

2. If you have Intel hardware and considering an upgrade get a C2Q

3. If cost is not a concern, get a Ci7

makes perfect sense but what if you don't have any of the hardware and don't want i7?

[iandh]

The conclusion of the Anand article was, as far as stuttering (min fps) is concerned, The PII 940 and the q9550 are about equal with the PII being ahead in some games; but in the end the i7 is the best overall.

Out of that conclusion you came away with PII IS TEH BESTEST HURR DURR.

Sometimes I wonder if you people are sobbing while you type.

You = trolling

Stuttering IS NOT min fps, stuttering is stuttering... you can have higher min fps and still have stutter/hitch.

We DID NOT say, "PII IS TEH BESTEST HURR DURR". I own a Q6600, E7200, and E8400, and they are sitting in my closet for a reason... I tested both intel and AMD rigs personally, and found the exact same thing that Anand did- that intel rigs stutter in certain games, while AMD rigs typically do not.


Folks seem to love to put spin on this to try and distract everyone from the real issue being discussed. Let me break this entire argument down real simple like:


Smoother supporters: I've used AMD and intel systems, and the AMD systems seem to run some games more smoothly than the intel systems do

Opponents: You are all insane morons that is impossible GRAPHS CHARTS GRAPHS CHARTS!!!! CHARTS!!!

Smoother supporters: This doesn't have to do with framerate numbers, it has to do with framerate stability...

Opponents: LIES!!! BS!!!

Anandtech: In our test we used AMD and intel systems, and the AMD systems seem to run some games more smoothly than the intel systems do.

Smoother supporters: See, we told you, intel stutters in some games.

Opponents: Oh wait, ummmm..... GRAPHS!!! CHARTS!!!

Smoother supporters: Wait, didn't we already say this doesn't have to do with who has the highest FPS? Could you please direct us to the "stuttering" chart, because we must have missed it...

[Raiderman]

You must think some of us come here to confine ourselves to one subforum. It's a good thing there are members like gallag and accord that are interested in these comparisons and actually come into these threads to set the record straight; all you have to do is scroll a few posts up and you'll see how a quote pertaining one game COH was taken out of context. It happens all the time, and the records get straightened all the time, albeit with much hostility from some you. I mean shouldn't the truth be worth something?

On topic: I think some software company like futuremark should be able to develop a benchmark that tests the "smoothness" of framerates (which in this instance would probably mean how tightly the lowest and highest frames are rendered) through a battery of intense graphic and processor scene and then capturing how fast frames are rendered.

Dont kid yourself, or me by that nonsense, most of you come in here to flame anything remotely considered competition. Thats ok I dont mind some good hearted debate. Just dont come in here with that holier than thou attitude and we could all have some meaningful conversation. Otherwise its just internet/forum fodder.

[roofsniper]

You = trolling

Stuttering IS NOT min fps, stuttering is stuttering... you can have higher min fps and still have stutter/hitch.

We DID NOT say, "PII IS TEH BESTEST HURR DURR". I own a Q6600, E7200, and E8400, and they are sitting in my closet for a reason... I tested both intel and AMD rigs personally, and found the exact same thing that Anand did- that intel rigs stutter in certain games, while AMD rigs typically do not.


Folks seem to love to put spin on this to try and distract everyone from the real issue being discussed. Let me break this entire argument down real simple like:


Smoother supporters: I've used AMD and intel systems, and the AMD systems seem to run some games more smoothly than the intel systems do

Opponents: You are all insane morons that is impossible GRAPHS CHARTS GRAPHS CHARTS!!!! CHARTS!!!

Smoother supporters: This doesn't have to do with framerate numbers, it has to do with framerate stability...

Opponents: LIES!!! BS!!!

Anandtech: In our test we used AMD and intel systems, and the AMD systems seem to run some games more smoothly than the intel systems do.

Smoother supporters: See, we told you, intel stutters in some games.

Opponents: Oh wait, ummmm..... GRAPHS!!! CHARTS!!!

Smoother supporters: Wait, didn't we already say this doesn't have to do with who has the highest FPS? Could you please direct us to the "stuttering" chart, because we must have missed it...

thanks but there have been at least 5 smoothness threads and it does not matter at all what you say. there have been charts, graphs, user opinions, reviewer opinions, reasons why, facts, etc. but it just doesn't matter what you say. the people that refuse to believe that something can be smoother even with less fps will never change. it doesn't matter what you throw at them they will just think everyone else has no idea what they are talking about. sometimes i think that even if intel said amd was smoother that they would still refuse to believe it. but of course no one ever says their competitor is better.

[Zucker2k]

makes perfect sense but what if you don't have any of the hardware and don't want i7?

That's why they do reviews; personally if I have to upgrade and don't have the hardware, I'm going Ci7 (by the way the Ci7 920 is now $230 at Micro Center. Since most in here are waiting for AM3 anyway, I have the advantage of enjoying blazing speeds with a more future proof platform.

[roofsniper]

That's why they do reviews; personally if I have to upgrade and don't have the hardware, I'm going Ci7 (by the way the Ci7 920 is now $230 at Micro Center. Since most in here are waiting for AM3 anyway, I have the advantage of enjoying blazing speeds with a more future proof platform.

well good for you but the thread is not about why you are going to buy i7. the thread is about smoothness.