http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...talyst-91.htmlEvery now and then graphics card makers claim that their products perform better with the new driver versions. We decided to find out how true these claims actually are.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...talyst-91.htmlEvery now and then graphics card makers claim that their products perform better with the new driver versions. We decided to find out how true these claims actually are.
My Opinion - Conclusion....No Improvement.
My Rig can do EpicFLOPs, Can yours?
Once this baby hits 88 TeraFLOPs, You're going to see some serious $@#%....
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hmmm.. they test ETQW but there's no mention of the texture problem... I guess they didn't have a time demo for Salvage.
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I see no improvement
Well duh, it's mostly a bugfixed, WHQL, +OGL 3.0 version of the original Hotfix that came early this month.Originally Posted by Warboy
If this was a Forceware release
Yea, from what I read in the other thread. OGL is porked. This driver made more bugs then fixes. Yea, Some driver.Well duh, it's mostly a bugfixed, WHQL, +OGL 3.0 version of the original Hotfix that came early this month.
If this was a Forceware release
My Rig can do EpicFLOPs, Can yours?
Once this baby hits 88 TeraFLOPs, You're going to see some serious $@#%....
Build XT7 is currently active.
Current OS Systems: Windows 10 64bit
So the current debate for Catalyst 8.12 user , install the fix or install 9.1 ?
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If you are running a HD 4870 X2, I would highly recommend you switch to 9.1. There are several performance improvements in games which XBit Labs did not test.
i wish , only HD4850
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Well, if you've installed 8.12 already there's a good chance you can't install any other version of Catalyst without a flipping Windows reinstall. I'd say the debate is between going back to 8.6 or waiting.
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My windows install is less than 4 days old , i don't mind a reinstall if it worth , but not a re-install and start getting crashes or reboots
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thanks for this sky, I will upgrade this afternoon.
it is clear that this driver is NOT a performance focused one, regardless if there were performance gains or not, the release notes from AMD make no mention of anything to do with performance. Just OGL3 and bug "fixes"
I guess we sit and wait for the one we are looking for...... I can be patient lol seeing as I will have this card till next year at least.
What? I had no issue with installing 9.1s after a thorough cleaning of the old drivers.
Interestingly enough, I have found that switching to an older driver (ie: 8.12 to 8.11) results in a failed driver install more often than not. To clear that up I usually have to uninstall the driver, clean, install an NVIDIA driver, clean again and THEN install the older ATI driver. It is convoluted in the extreme but it seems to work.
Remeber that some bug fixes can translate into increased performance in certain applications.it is clear that this driver is NOT a performance focused one, regardless if there were performance gains or not, the release notes from AMD make no mention of anything to do with performance. Just OGL3 and bug "fixes"
this is true, but in previous releases ATI actually pegs quantified gains in performance for games in the release notes. This section is conspicuously absent from 9.1 rn's
Considering the date they were posted, it seems that it was a last-ditch effort to release SOMETHING before they needed to call these 9.2 drivers. Personally, I think that meant the QA lab didn't have time to test performance gains and kept their testing to stability only. Thus, no performance numbers in the release notes.
That would also explain why the HD 4850 X2 drivers had a seperate release rather than being integrated into the original 9.1 WHQL set. Then again, these are only guesses.
I would wager that you are correct, lets hope this doesn't screw with the normal release schedule too bad and we get 9.2 within 20 daysConsidering the date they were posted, it seems that it was a last-ditch effort to release SOMETHING before they needed to call these 9.2 drivers. Personally, I think that meant the QA lab didn't have time to test performance gains and kept their testing to stability only. Thus, no performance numbers in the release notes.
That would also explain why the HD 4870 X2 drivers had a seperate release rather than being integrated into the original 9.1 WHQL set. Then again, these are only guesses.
what was up with the big 3dmark jumps we saw from guys here before offical 9.1 release then?
Im confused
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Installed 9.1s overtop 8.12 hotfix no issues outside of having to flip my DVI cables because windows though my screens were different and I couldn't select a primary display :|
Changes can be made for stability's sake.
the performance boosts with the beta 9.1s were due to quadcore/multicore optimizations. reportedly these multicore optimizations didn't make it into the final 9.1s and were postponed to catalyst 9.2.
but this is what i got from hearsay, dunno how legit this info is.
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computerbase.de reported almost the same improvement from 9.1beta to 9.1 final it was 6% across the board @1680*1050 4xAA 16xAF using 4870 and 4GHZ quad vs 8% on 1680*1050 4xAA without mentioning AF level
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i've read their review but i was unable to see any of the huge performance boosts we saw in previous 9.1 beta previews.
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Installing 9.1's was worth it big time for me. No more 'Driver stopped responding' crap anymore. Now bring on 9.2 with more bug fixes and the promised performance improvements
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This is a review were Adaptive AA is enabled and set to quality. This will have an impact on performance. Were I find issue with the review is that they showed no IQ comparisons when enabling feature(s) that can effect IQ. Yet they call it a Performance Express Test
Here is review from Computer Base. In their testbed methods they state that Adaptive AA is off.
Last edited by Eastcoasthandle; 01-30-2009 at 09:55 AM.
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