HD4870 X2 vs GTX295 with Catalyst 9.1

[ownage]

I had no idea that the 8.12 hotfix drivers were 9.1 betas. But if that is the case, why are they taking so long to release officially supported 9.1's?

There goes a rumour that AMD would have told there partners to keep some room left at Cebit for some new midrange ATI cards to show. AMD seems to be very quit about these new cards. I can understand why AMD wants that not only the newest drivers, but also the drivers from last month support these new cards.
So maybe, just a possibility, AMD waits till 31 January to release cat9.1 with support for these new midrange cards.

Edit: This year Cebit is in March instead of February?

[Morais]

guess what....9.1 comming....http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

[ownage]

Lol, you should have post earlier man. There goes my statement.

[Morais]

Lol, you should have post earlier man. There goes my statement.

I kept refreshing ati website every 10 seconds, so no way to post it earlier

[ownage]

I kept refreshing ati website every 10 seconds, so no way to post it earlier

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[roofsniper]

you would think they would try to get at least some kind of driver out this month. i can't remember the last time they skipped a month. so im hoping it will be out soon especially after we have been seeing it on review sites.

[GeertDB]

I know you've heard...the benches only matter if the fanboi's get the results they were hoping for. If they don't, they don't matter. The common tactic is to attack the reviewer/review site when their favorite card just doesn't measure up anymore. We have a forum full of threads like that.

how can you agree with the biggest Intel/Nvidia fanboy ever created.....
do some research about him, i cannot believe he is not banned already, the rest of your statement is completely true, but please, dont quote him (my ignore list will not work) and definetly don't agree with him

[Dan_c]

I couldn't read that review!...
I'm an Nvidia fan, and I would have liked to see a good comparison... not that!

[largon]

Looks like HD4870X2 is still the better choice overall. R700 gets consistently higher minimum FPS (and that's what counts), except for some titles where CF is broken or GTX295 is marginally faster.

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Too bad selling a GTX295 is a very bad deal for nV, let alone the AIBs.
AMD and AIBs actually make profit by peddling R700s. But it's been like that since spring '08 so nothing has really changed. Except nV can now offer similar performance at 25% higher price.

[SKYMTL]

The 9.1 WHQL drivers were not released to reviewers until last night. Before that we were fed countless beta versions of the drivers with very different performance from one to another. If I had to make a guess, I would say that they didn't use actual 9.1 drivers but the latest beta build sent before the official WHQL driver release. I guess calling them 9.1 has a certain ring to it though...

[jam2k]

Looks like HD4870X2 is still the better choice overall. R700 gets consistently higher minimum FPS (and that's what counts), except for some titles where CF is broken or GTX295 is marginally faster.

Too bad selling a GTX295 is a very bad deal for nV, let alone the AIBs.
AMD and AIBs actually make profit by peddling R700s. But it's been like that since spring '08 so nothing has really changed. Except nV can now offer similar performance at 25% higher price.

Agreed, also it's amazing to see how well a $325 card performs against a 700$ GTX285 SLI setup at High resolutions.

Rating - 2560x1600 8xAA/16xAF

ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2 248,0
ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2 8.11 236,1
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 SLI 186,7
Nvidia GeForce GTX 295 141,3
ATi Radeon HD 4870 1GB 130,5
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 100,0
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 92,7
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260² 75,4
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 73,5
ATi Radeon HD 4870 50,4
ATi Radeon HD 4850 46,7
Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ 2,9


Link

[Stanley Pain]

One word of comment. Sort your graphs from highest to lowest please. It makes it THAT much easier to read. *puts on his old man glasses*

[largon]

^Highest what - min, average or max FPS?

[clayton]

To tell you the truth I have never like that website.

[Glow9]

And let's not forget. 3x GTX285 beats both 2x 4870X2 and 2x GTX295.

$800 ATI vs. 1500 Nvidia. Hrmmmm Anyone dishing out this much with DX11 coming is insane.

[Stanley Pain]

^Highest what - min, average or max FPS?

all of them


One can wish for interactive graphs one day that let us sort the data set ourselves =)

[Aberration]

If these are the same as the 8.12 hotfixes, then I am not impressed.

The 8.12 hotfixes still give the same black screen problem with Armed Assault on more than 3GB of RAM. No such problem on nV.

Is it just me, or does anyone else see a download link?

Vista64
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206..._enu_74234.exe

[jasonelmore]

Where's snipedogg?? It looks like that :COMPUTERBASE: thread on here was pure bs. the only nocible gains i have seen is in farcry 2. not even crysis warhead saw any improvements

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/17...sta/index.html

[Final8ty]

$800 ATI vs. 1500 Nvidia. Hrmmmm Anyone dishing out this much with DX11 coming is insane.

By the time that DX11 will be used in any significant way, we will be on the refresh of the first DX11 cards or even a completely new gen.

[flopper]

$800 ATI vs. 1500 Nvidia. Hrmmmm Anyone dishing out this much with DX11 coming is insane.

I am already using dx11, where is my cards and games to play with?

[Macadamia]

Where's snipedogg?? It looks like that :COMPUTERBASE: thread on here was pure bs. the only nocible gains i have seen is in farcry 2. not even crysis warhead saw any improvements

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/17...sta/index.html

According to Tweaktown...

Performance of 9.1 = 8.12 = 8.11 = 8.10 = 8.9 = 8.8 = 8.7 = 8.6 = 8.5 = 8.4 = 8.3 = you know the deal = BS

But anyway if it makes your fangirl roots happy...

[jasonelmore]

According to Tweaktown...

Performance of 9.1 = 8.12 = 8.11 = 8.10 = 8.9 = 8.8 = 8.7 = 8.6 = 8.5 = 8.4 = 8.3 = you know the deal = BS

But anyway if it makes your fangirl roots happy...

Is that why you admited that this is a bug fix driver only? Several people are showing no performance increases.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=216176

[Circaflex]

hmmm i have until the 8th to return my 295

[LordEC911]

how can you agree with the biggest Intel/Nvidia fanboy ever created.....
do some research about him, i cannot believe he is not banned already, the rest of your statement is completely true, but please, dont quote him (my ignore list will not work) and definetly don't agree with him

T_Flight is buddy-buddy with him, has the exact same misconstrued POV. Heck you should see when T_Flight posts in the same thread as Shintai. They have to post in every single AMD/ATi thread and crap on it and then they also post in every Intel/Nvidia thread and glorify them.
It is getting old...

[Eastcoasthandle]

Is that why you admited that this is a bug fix driver only? Several people are showing no performance increases.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=216176

That review enabled Adaptive AA setting it to Quality. That will reduce performance and, how it functions from game to game can vary. Besides, the multi-core performance additions will be in Cat 9-2.