AMD Phenom II 920 & 940 Full Review [UPDATED with more tests]

[v_rr]

While the Phenom IIs don't suck, they still are not equal to Penryn clock per clock.

But is close. Maybe AM3 CPU´s will close the Gap

[Caveman787]

Perhaps nb/hypertransport and core scaling with overclocking will close the gap.

Also these setups do have some slight differences with the memory setup if i'm not mistaken and that could account for a small bit of difference.

[OverClocker_gr]

But is close. Maybe AM3 CPU´s will close the Gap

maybe,but i dont want to see again 939 - > AM2

[demonkevy666]

next bench throw the Q9400 if deneb fall in between the Q9400 and 9450.

still want to know how much of that 12mb of cache is helping.

[YukonTrooper]

Thank you for the updated review! When does the clock-per-clock comparison arrive?

[[XC] hipno650]

Thank you for the updated review! When does the clock-per-clock comparison arrive?

i was wondering the same thing. i am looking forward to a clock per clock comparison between Phenom, Phenom 2, Kentsfield and a Yorkie. That will show it true colors. and then a max over clock on all of them and then a comparison of benches at the max oc. thanks for the updated review!

[qurious63ss]

Thank you for the updated review! When does the clock-per-clock comparison arrive?

See Petnorth on 1st page for a rough estimate on deneb vs york














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[donitsi]

Not bad considering it costs 279,90€ in Finland (Tax edition)
And OC's to 3,8-4ghz pretty easily. ( I think I can say that)


Q6600 costs <190€ though

[donitsi]

and then a max over clock on all of them and then a comparison of benches at the max oc.

That would be nice indeed

[Lastviking]

OverClocker_gr: thx for very great tests! , will you compair stock NB vs 2500mhz+ also when you make test @ 3.7ghz?(if you clock cpu dont forget to clock nb also)

[gOJDO]

Keep up the good work guys! So, at stock settings Deneb is:
1) Clock for clock similar to Kentsfield in performance
2) similar to Yorkfield in power consumption
3) as good for OC-ing as Kentsfield and Yorkfield

I'm curious to see the clock for clock comparisons at 3.7GHz...

[gallag]

Any way of removing the gpu bottleneck? We are not learning much when a 2.4ghzkentsfield keeps up with this generations finest. Or just run some cpu intensive tests. Get a bit of folding going down. Thanks for the effort man, Must eat up some time doing all this but it is appreciated. Also, if you oc all cpus to 3.7 will that not make the fact that you are gpu limited even more pronounced and every cpu will have a equal score? One more thing, Any thoughts on how deneb overclocks?

[ajaidev]

Crysis n' crysis warhead result would also be so good!!

[FlanK3r]

OC gr:
what is max stable OC? About 3.8GHz? And what is power com. + temperatures? Thx man

[herderien]

in high res nehalem sucks phenom rules lol at least closes the gap dramatically

maybe in high rez the bottleneck is not the cpu

btw i don't really understand the farcry2 high res results as there is no difference between i920 and i940...does somebody have an explanation ?

[largon]

Not bad considering it costs 279,90€ in Finland (Tax edition)

Onhan noita halvempiakin ysi-nelikymppisiä Phenomeita.

[Jacky]

But is close. Maybe AM3 CPU´s will close the Gap

Perhaps nb/hypertransport and core scaling with overclocking will close the gap.

Also these setups do have some slight differences with the memory setup if i'm not mistaken and that could account for a small bit of difference.

Wishful thinking is fine, but in my opinion you are better off in the long term if you accept the truth.
Overclocking and power consumption, on the other hand, might turn out to be ph II's competetive advantage, even though I would not bet my money on that.

[AbelJemka]

In waiting of power compsumption results and average overclocking on air/water .
But actually no one can say Phenom II is a bad product seeing the price. Preorder in Europe are 225€ for 920 and 275€ for 940 in average.

[largon]

I'm looking at offers at sub-245€ for 940BE. And those are in Finland where chips are systematically 5-10% more expensive than in central EU.

[Pillo-kun]

In sweden we have to pay about 270€ for the 940 phenom, to expensive but as it is only one store that has the prices up for it i expekt that the prices will naturally come down when more stores will list the phenoms.
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=376580

[RASTAVIPER]

In GREECE prices for 940 are 299 euro for some big retail shops and 243 euro for some smaller shops.
Yet, there are a few shops that have PhII.
After the official launch we expect to see better prices..
Maybe, you should order yours from GREECE??

[Pillo-kun]

well I am very tempted to, yes I am but still not impressed with the performance of the phenom 2 yet. Waiting for oc numbers before I decide.

[justapost]

Thanks man for the update!

Updated (and extended) my previous summary too :P

Well done.
Think you have an error on the x264 calculations. I assume the results are given in Seconds.

[Glow9]

maybe,but i dont want to see again 939 - > AM2

I hope you mean with AM3 cause I'm the same way I was POed big time. But if you mean AM2 I'd say its done after these chips. Ugrade path for current users. I'm curious what AM3 can bring but so far its just PII w/ ddr3.

[OverClocker_gr]

Well done.
Think you have an error on the x264 calculations. I assume the results are given in Seconds.

no,they are fps.

maybe in high rez the bottleneck is not the cpu

btw i don't really understand the farcry2 high res results as there is no difference between i920 and i940...does somebody have an explanation ?

maybe your answer is on your first line.