1366 block q

[breathemetal]

So whats the top performing cpu block out for i7?

[xTKxhom3r]

So whats the top performing cpu block out for i7?

i think the best one is the gtz...

[PsYcHoNo0b727]

i think the best one is the gtz...

GTZ

[NaeKuh]

i think the best one is the gtz...

GTZ

you guys have a test result for this? because i cant think of many i7 tests out there..

ive done a ek supreme and a koolance 350... so far i like the koolance a little bit better...
performance is a little off, but i like the mounting system (super easy) and results i get from it are reproducable...

[veedubfreak]

I'm running a gtz and have had my 920 up to 4.2ghz (turbo) with 1.55v and never broke 65C. Although my apt is pretty chilly right now.

[ReverendMaynard]

I've been testing the GTZ extensively for the past week and with a MCR220, my 920 at clocks in sig using 1.36V crests at around 73C. With the Cooler Master V8 these clocks gave me 97C load both using prime blend (blend hammers the i7 much more that small or large fft's

[NaeKuh]

well until someone can get reproduce dead even temps like this... (its easy on the 350 i just helped someone yesterday and found a borked sensor on his cpu)

im not ready to pass any block greater then koolances 350... 1-2C means nothing without balance..

[ReverendMaynard]

well until someone can get reproduce dead even temps like this... (its easy on the 350 i just helped someone yesterday and found a borked sensor on his cpu)

im not ready to pass any block greater then koolances 350... 1-2C means nothing without balance..

How can anyone reproduce results with so many unknown variables? What voltages? What's the ambient? What TIM is being used? I can go on and on lol. Also, how about an updated version of Realtemp.

Balance my arse...more like luck. Looking at the minimum temps pretty much confirms that. I've used stock, a V8 and this GTZ and the delta between Core 0 and 3 have been identical across all three coolers.

[NaeKuh]

Balance my arse...more like luck. Looking at the minimum temps pretty much confirms that. I've used stock, a V8 and this GTZ and the delta between Core 0 and 3 have been identical across all three coolers.

oh man... gotta be nice...

luck eh?

Running a custom dual pump setup with a cpu only loop.



Also i helped a guy out yesterday and we reproduced even temps.

Luck? no its called hours of implimentation and testing...

Im not on the same level as the rest of this forum when it comes to watercooling parts..

When i do tests.. i dont end it with just mounts..
I also retest with different blocks also... i have had 3 supremes at one time..


So you have anything else contructive to say to me?

So luck eh?

[NaeKuh]

reverand... because naekuh is in nice mode..

i did this for ya in the version you requested...



i cant show you guys anymore then this..


Read Gainestown and not bloomfield.. i applogize, but id rather keep my contacts then violate a full blown NDA..

If you havent tried a 350 block, dont talk smack about it... its a dayam fine block...

EDIT: uhh wtf... im getting lower load temps??
*sigh* great... now my load tests will be invalid if i use this version.. :\

[ReverendMaynard]

wow, you're in nice mode...should I feel special because you're not in another mode? lol. Use an i7 Bloomfield which are notorious for having a 4C delta between core 0 and 3 then get back too me. I never talked smack about the Koolance...but you seem suspiciously defensive of a product so I'll find someone who will give me proper information before I make ANY judgment. I think you have me pegged as a Swiftech fanboi...couldn't be further from the truth.

[NaeKuh]

wow, you're in nice mode...should I feel special because you're not in another mode? lol. Use an i7 Bloomfield which are notorious for having a 4C delta between core 0 and 3 then get back too me. I never talked smack about the Koolance...but you seem suspiciously defensive of a product so I'll find someone who will give me proper information before I make ANY judgment. I think you have me pegged as a Swiftech fanboi...couldn't be further from the truth.

well.. if anyone responded like this who wouldnt take it as an attack?

Balance my arse...more like luck. Looking at the minimum temps pretty much confirms that. I've used stock, a V8 and this GTZ and the delta between Core 0 and 3 have been identical across all three coolers.

I dont deal with luck.
Luck is bull and not reproducable..

What i care about is whats reproducable.


And yes i am being nice right now... trust me, if i wasnt, id be a lot harsher...

Balance my arse...more like luck. Looking at the minimum temps pretty much confirms that. I've used stock, a V8 and this GTZ and the delta between Core 0 and 3 have been identical across all three coolers.

and if i was mean, i would of raped ya on that statement.. :P
how is lowest temps of any concern when looking at block temps?

Which valid tester do you see and trust that takes idle temps when doing his calculations?
Why is idle temps even needed besides to prove a point that you got your block mounted?

You seem to know a lot of testing methodology... So i'll explain mine.

I take ambient.. then the delta of watercoolant from the ambient.. that gives me a variable... (Rad efficiency)

Then you take the loaded coolant temp, and take that delta with the loaded cpu block (gives you another set of data)

Then you compare all the sets of data with the ambients taken at inlet of your rad, and get a third set of data...

And i do this with multipul blocks and mounts..
I was using the old realtemp because well, my other testing was done on near same hardware minus the board cpu and using old real temp.

When cross testing the biggest mistake a tester will do is CHANGE his methodology and screw up his comparision. (reason why anandtech took so long to adpot to the new methodology).

Do you see a flaw somewhere that i should be aware of?

[jasonelmore]

LOL Poor rev


Gainestown is looking very nice. Nice testing methodology

[T_Flight]

Guys, it's one day before Christmas Eve. If you're not at work I suggest a good drink...like a double. We don't need a hardware war. The question was, which was best. The only way to answer that is through testing. Testing is good. This hardware is good. The OP is looking for the best out there right now. That's gonna take testing of multiple blocks. I would venture a guess that we don't currently know what the best is quite yet, but it won't be much longer before we do.

Right now, I'm too buzzed to think about messing with computers. If you are of legal age, now is a good time to get that way too.

[NaeKuh]

Guys, it's one day before Christmas Eve. If you're not at work I suggest a good drink...like a double. We don't need a hardware war. The question was, which was best. The only way to answer that is through testing. Testing is good. This hardware is good. The OP is looking for the best out there right now. That's gonna take testing of multiple blocks. I would venture a guess that we don't currently know what the best is quite yet, but it won't be much longer before we do.

Right now, I'm too buzzed to think about messing with computers. If you are of legal age, now is a good time to get that way too.

^

we need more testing to show whats the best...

i cant not tell you wants the best..

i can tell you what my favorate is right now...

im in the middle of testing the supreme.. i have 4 mounts down and 2 90 directions..

i need 2 more rotations on the block b4 i can conclude this...

So no i cant tell you whats the BEST... The best can change with the addition of 1 other component..

[T_Flight]

I do suspect like many that the blocks with the larger pin array or whatever surafce area enhancements they use will be a bit better, but that is only a guess.

Thanks for the testing Naekuh.

[NaeKuh]

well it kinda sucks how i dont have mounts for the cuplex, or my d-tek.

ima trying to get bei to work on another project...

i was thinkn D-tek promount for the EK supreme LGA1366 style.. You would have to use the thermalright spring screws and backplate tho..

Skinnee and i are planning it out right now...

[T_Flight]

Don't shoot me for bringing up that word "air" but these things are monsters on air. The stock cooling is just not efficient for overclocking use. I spoke with Alex about this, and the water blocks in use here at XS are MUCH more efficient. It's a completely different kind of running. Heck for that matter water itself is much more efficient...well, quality water cooling setup correctly anyhow.

I'm debating between the DTek and GTZ. I'm definitely gonna get the rest of my stuff in January. In fact, that's why I called Alex. I promised him that I have not forgot about it, and that I would purchase it then.

These i7's are no joke. I really really want to try and keep them below 60 load, but I don't know whether that is even possible. It's gonna be hard to do.

[ReverendMaynard]

LOL Poor rev


Gainestown is looking very nice. Nice testing methodology

Valuable post there elmore.

T Flight, you're right; we need more testing, but in all of Naeku's expertise, he's failed in actually giving anyone viable information. I can talk in circles all day and present loaded info like it's actually valuable to the public but I'll refrain.

Happy Holidays T

[Splave]

so the load temps of a "cherry chip" that isnt released yet? Im sure the IHS is dead balls even on that thing so people like you that get them post what amazing overclocks they get so people buy them.

Why does everyone in the i7 thread have their core 3 (4th temp) the coolest? Interesting

[NaeKuh]

wow...

and this is exactly why i quit my first wave testing..

If you guys all feel this way, i'll keep my results to anandtech only then.

thanks for messing up another fun thing for me to give you guys...

have fun with i7 testing YOURSELVES then...

Good luck with the mounts... i have them... but you guys wont see results anymore from me on in this section.

Martin doesnt have i7... skinnee doesnt have one either..
Andy's i7 is not fully setup, and also he doesnt have all the mounts...
Evil only has mounts for the supreme..

So have fun waiting for one of my friends to do it instead.. Oh martin quit testing btw..

[Splave]

so this is how you deal with adversity? Nice

[ReverendMaynard]

wow...

and this is exactly why i quit my first wave testing..

If you guys all feel this way, i'll keep my results to anandtech only then.

thanks for messing up another fun thing for me to give you guys...

have fun with i7 testing YOURSELVES then...

Good luck with the mounts... i have them... but you guys wont see results anymore from me on in this section.

Martin doesnt have i7... skinnee doesnt have one either..
Andy's i7 is not fully setup, and also he doesnt have all the mounts...
Evil only has mounts for the supreme..

So have fun waiting for one of my friends to do it instead.. Oh martin quit testing btw..

Listen man, if you have a cpu that can produce identical loads across all 4 cores, don't try to come off like it's the coolers doing. It's the cpu.

When you get an i7 and actually know what you're arguing against bring on the data; no one should ever discourage that.

1.36v after droop for 3680mhz is a bit much though, might want to back that down a bit.

[rocket733]

Listen man, if you have a cpu that can produce identical loads across all 4 cores, don't try to come off like it's the coolers doing. It's the cpu.

When you get an i7 and actually know what you're arguing against bring on the data; no one should ever discourage that.

I fail to see how you can eliminate the 350 if you don't have both the block and i7 to test against. Just because in your current setup you have uneven temperatures across cores doesn't mean you will have the same results with the koolance i7. Perhaps you'll be kind enough to scientifically explain why it's the i7 cpu over the 350 waterblock??

[Splave]

Lol maybe because he is the only 1 out of the entire i7 thread that has equal temps

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