DFI Lanparty UT P45-T2RS Banter starts here!!!

[Thule]

Hey C-N thanks for your reply pal.I got worker number 4 error with prime95 when my cpu vtt 1.356, all GTL's are 0,67 and cpu voltage 1.36.I tried everything but nothing is changed.

[DJSUB]

I haven't got it nailed completely yet & its only about an hour stable but my chip has roughly run 4GHz 1.216~1.232, 4.1 @ 1.248, 4.2 @ 1.28~1.296 & I'm currently good at 4.3 with 1.328~1.344 loaded according to CPU-Z so its scaling nice.

Haven't touched PLL yet & don't intend to, call me chicken but I've wrecked good chips with PLL & despite what anybody says here on XS about killer voltages IMHO PLL hurts & I'll stay away from it.

My CPU likes 0.67 & so did my NB to a degree but I found I can dramatically reduce the VTT needed by raising NB GTL to 0.69

@ Thule welcome to XS

I would try all GTL's to 0.67 & give it 1.25v vtt then see what happens.

we're the same. i also wrecked 2 good chip e8400 by upping the pll voltage to 1.75v for hitting 600fsb on P35. the chip died in less than 5mins without doing some benchmarks or anything. i don't know if it's connected with a higher vtt. but i think P45 is a different story. i saw some benchmark using high pll voltage & i think they never had that problem. but i'm still afraid getting the pll voltage up even on P45 because of that bad experience

[VOID WARRANTY]

i know this is the ut thread ...but does anyone know about the new blood iron..good..bad...there,s now reviews out that i could find on it

[C-N]

Hey C-N thanks for your reply pal.I got worker number 4 error with prime95 when my cpu vtt 1.356, all GTL's are 0,67 and cpu voltage 1.36.I tried everything but nothing is changed.

Where has it crashed, what fft & does it always crash there?

I also find setting the GTL Buffer Strength to weak helps my chip.

we're the same. i also wrecked 2 good chip e8400 by upping the pll voltage to 1.75v for hitting 600fsb on P35. the chip died in less than 5mins without doing some benchmarks or anything. i don't know if it's connected with a higher vtt. but i think P45 is a different story. i saw some benchmark using high pll voltage & i think they never had that problem. but i'm still afraid getting the pll voltage up even on P45 because of that bad experience

I have seen plenty of people using high PLL & getting away with it but I'm not taking any chances. P45 may be different & I have very briefly tried upping the PLL on this UT P45 with my quad to see if it could stabilise 500 x 9 which it didn't so luckily for me I should have no reason to run PLL at anything higher than stock.

For anyone interested the PLL & VTT measure points are measured on the chip marked SK12 directly behind the yellow SATA ports. The D6 side of the chip is PLL & the other VTT.

[C-N]

I'm still not fully comfortable with my quad oc atm (still learning fast) but thought I would post up where I'm at right now just to show you quads do work on this board.

Q9650 @ 4.2GHZ 2 X 1GB @ DDR1167 / 266/667 Strap/Divider.

[Thule]

hi C-N .here is the picture.

[C-N]

hi C-N .here is the picture.

Ouch thats instant fail, you have a long way to go.

I would back the fsb down, find a stable point & work up from there.

[Jor3lBR]

I'm still not fully comfortable with my quad oc atm (still learning fast) but thought I would post up where I'm at right now just to show you quads do work on this board.

Q9650 @ 4.2GHZ 2 X 1GB @ DDR1167 / 266/667 Strap/Divider.

Nice clock but I was just hopping the P45 had a better PWM design able to support Quads power amount. Looks like they still kept the fragile design used on the X38 and X48 series (for economic reasons), this is really a pity as they work wonders for Duo's but can't scale with Quads.

Those Q9650 are really comfortable along the 500fsbx9 line with aircooling so not to use this amount of extra power is just a waist.

But in any case if you're generally happy with 460-480fsb the DFI's are solid stable with low amount of volts but they will just fail above that.

Thanks for the effort CN!

[Jor3lBR]

Ouch thats instant fail, you have a long way to go.

I would back the fsb down, find a stable point & work up from there.

Thule you are far away from the GTL Ref settings on your chip, you are using 45nm Quad GTL Ref on a Duo chip browse around DFI Forum and the DFI X48 Thread to discover the optimum GTL Ref for your cpu.

I would do what CN is asking you back it up a little and start from there

[namegt]

cpu E8400
M/B DFI Lanparty UT P45 T2RS
RAM OCZ 7200 SLI 1x2
VGA x700
POWER ZM 750-HP




FSB450 x9


FSB500 x9


FSB523 x9


FSB534 x9


FSB556 x9




E8400 batch code Q832A

"nidecker"
I'm playing with UT P45 T2rs but have some problems to get >550fsb stable.

Can you post me your settings for high fsb?
What is max fsb on dual core orthos/prime stable that you have reach ?



>CPU Feature:

Thermal Management Control.......... - Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Disabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled

>DRAM Timing:

Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Disabled

>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:

DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 3
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 1

Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2396ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[268ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Relaxed
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[2066ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[48ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[394ps]

Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Relaxed

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
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Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto

Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - 15
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - 35
Performance Level.................... - Auto

>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:

Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto

>Voltage Settings:

CPU VID Control..................... - 1.35V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.29v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.455v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.29v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.63
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.61
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.61
FSB Vref............................ - Auto

Genie BIOS Settings:

Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 6
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3600MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 600
Boot Up Clock....................... - Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 0ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/667
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1200MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled

FSB600 orthos / prime test of the soon

[C-N]

@ Jor3lBR,

The boards not a slouch with a quad in any way but it still cant out do any of its predecessors P35, X38, X48 etc.

I see other boards making 500fsb with a quad but I don't see the masses holding 500 stable.

I don't think the issue is the PWM there may or may not be an issue with the PWM that I'm not aware of but for me the issue of quads not scaling up like for arguments sake the UD3 has more to do with the "CPU Clock Amplitude". My board/quad needs this to be increased from 800 to 900 to even boot over 475fsb & it needs it upped again to 1000mv to go past 500fsb.

I don't know if its a hardware limitation or even if 1000mv is insane & likely to kill a chip or not but I sure would like to pump a bit more to see what happens.

Oh... & 460 ~ 480fsb is plenty for daily use but if 500+ is available on the UD3 then it'll be a UD3 I'm ordering simple as.
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@ namegt looking good.
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[prostoman]

I am getting one of those boards soon, and looking for a CPU for it. I am thinking something like E8500 or a QX9650.

Yes, the QX is very expensive, but I found a used one for like half the price. Still expensive but is it worth it to buy a QX for this board? Or will I not be able to discover its potential? I mean the multi is unlocked, so I should have no trouble reaching like 5GHz on water, right? Or is something else holding quad back on those boards besides low multies?

[C-N]

I am getting one of those boards soon, and looking for a CPU for it. I am thinking something like E8500 or a QX9650.

Yes, the QX is very expensive, but I found a used one for like half the price. Still expensive but is it worth it to buy a QX for this board? Or will I not be able to discover its potential? I mean the multi is unlocked, so I should have no trouble reaching like 5GHz on water, right? Or is something else holding quad back on those boards besides low multies?

E8500 works well but as for the QX the honest answer is I don't know as I've not had or seen a QX on this board yet hint hint

I would really like to hear how you get on if you go with the QX keep us posted. If the QX is such a good deal would it not be worth buying it, giving it a whirl & if it fails to live up to expectations ebay it on for what you paid for it?

[prostoman]

Yeah, well, you are kind of getting to me saying that I "will be the first one to put a QX in that board hint hint". Problem is, E8500 would still cost me less than half, and my spendings increased badly lately. I guess I will think about it a little bit more, look around for overclocks of QX9650 may be Will keep you guys updated and join you when I get my board with one CPU or the other.

[Thule]

I think I was stable at 450 fsb but I am not.After 1.5 hours during prime95 blend stressing my computer did not BSOD.here is my 450 fsb settings ;

>CPU Feature:
 
Thermal Management Control.......... - Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Disabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Disabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
 
>DRAM Timing:
 
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto

>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:

DLL And RCOMP Settings.............. - Auto
Ch1 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
Ch2 Dram Defaul Skew................ - Model 0
RCOMP Settings...................... - Model 2

Fine Delay Step Degree.............. - 70ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch1 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[166ps]
Ch1 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[124ps]
Ch1 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[110ps]
Ch1 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[262ps]

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting.......... - Auto
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346s]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay.............. - Current[1346ps]
Ch2 Control0 Fine Delay............. - Current[14ps]
Ch2 Control1 Fine Delay............. - Current[56ps]
Ch2 Control2 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Control3 Fine Delay............. - Current[0ps]
Ch2 Command Fine Delay.............. - Current[110ps]

Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting........ - Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto
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Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............. - Auto

Flex Memory Mode..................... - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............... - Auto
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)............ - Auto
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................. - Auto
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............... - Auto
All Precharge to Act................. - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC).............. - Auto
Performance Level.................... - Auto

>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:

Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In........... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In........... - Auto

Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. -Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto

>Voltage Settings:

CPU VID Control..................... - 1.40V
CPU VID Special Add................. - Enabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.21v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.351v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.27v1
Vcore Droop Control................. - Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.60v
GTL+ Buffer Strength................ - Strong
CPU GTL 0 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 2 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 1 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
CPU GTL 3 REF Volt.................. - 0.6400
North Bridge GTL 0 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
North Bridge GTL 1 REF Volt......... - 0.6250
FSB Vref............................ - Auto
 
Genie BIOS Settings:
 
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Exist Shutdown After AC loss........ - Enabled
AC Shutdown Free.................... - Enabled
O.C Clock Fail Retry Counter........ - 1
O.C Clock Fail CMOS Reloaded........ - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 8.5
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3825 MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 450
Boot Up Clock....................... - 350
CPU Clock Amplitude................. - 800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew..................... - 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew..................... - 200ps
DRAM Speed.......................... - 400/800
Target DRAM Speed................... - 900MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x 
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled

I try to reach 4ghz 24/7 but I can not be stable at 450 fsb yet. What is your recommandations C-N?

[mrcape]

Any word on the P45-T3RS or the dark version?

[politenessman]

there are a couple lp dk p45 out already, and recently the p45 blood iron available.

[C-N]

I try to reach 4ghz 24/7 but I can not be stable at 450 fsb yet. What is your recommandations C-N?

I think its fair to point out that everyones view on stability is different, some are happy it goes in windows & some like me are a touch on the pedantic side & like to beat hardware up to prove a point to myself. Lets for the sake of the argument say were taking Prime95 as our must pass test.

I think you need to find a stable OC or set yourself a must pass target for stability. I personally like 1 full loop of prime from the start 1024k right through to 4096k about 9 1/2 hours as my must pass minimum. Having said that even that will fail Linpack 8/10 times & on very rare cases fall over in 3DMARK but a little more voltage has pretty much always sorted things out.

I am fairly sure I don't have to tell you how to overclock but for the threads sake you need to stabilise something & work up from there. I would suggest backing the CPU fsb down & jacking the ram divider up first to find out where your RAM gives up. Then back down the RAM to 333/667 & jack up the fsb a little & stability test using apps like Prime95. Dont forget Prime95 can be run with custom fft's to help pinpoint where work is needed. You don't need to wait 45 mins till Prime fails at the end of 10k when you can set prime up to start at 10K.

As for your settings, everyones system runs differently sure we can all advise things that worked for us but please bear in mind they wont necessarily work for you.

[C-N]

Any word on the P45-T3RS or the dark version?

News or availability?

Availability wise I haven't seen the T3RS in the UK yet but in Europe HPM & SLT have had them for a couple of weeks.

[prostoman]

I dont mean to tease you guys..... well ok I am but I went for the QX9650 and expecting to have all hardware in the house by 1st dec (there is always hope). I figured I might loose less money on buying the QX than a new E8500, just hope it performs.

[Jor3lBR]

I dont mean to tease you guys..... well ok I am but I went for the QX9650 and expecting to have all hardware in the house by 1st dec (there is always hope). I figured I might loose less money on buying the QX than a new E8500, just hope it performs.

Keep your hopes up . The board only gives up on Quads when running high FSB but with unlock multi you have better chances as you wont need to push high FSB:

Clocking DFI X48 with QX96505.8Ghz


With cascade but at least you can see what you can expect

[namegt]

NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.25v

[VOID WARRANTY]

NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.25v

damn it makes me wana buy this board i have a smoking E8400 E0 thats bagging for some stable front side bus....is the board stable at these speeds...

[PolRoger]

@namegt

That is a very nice E8400 (832A)... it smokes my E8600 (820A) that I recently got back from RMA.

[C-N]

I dont mean to tease you guys..... well ok I am but I went for the QX9650 and expecting to have all hardware in the house by 1st dec (there is always hope). I figured I might loose less money on buying the QX than a new E8500, just hope it performs.

Awesome, the spotlight's on you keep us posted.