Shanghai launch pulled forward to Mid-October, Model Numbers and info!

[catawalks]

AMD
OS2376WAL4DGI
AMD Opteron(Quad-Core) Model 2376
$405.78

AMD
OS2376WAL4DGIWOF
AMD Opteron(Quad-Core) Model 2376 (WithOut Fan)
$407.07

Why is the one without the fan more than the one with the fan?

[roofsniper]

Why is the one without the fan more than the one with the fan?

good question. possibly a mix up?

[Particle]

The wait is killing me. I plan on building a dual socket quad core server box, but with 45nm right around the corner...

Edit: After seeing those prices, nevermind. $249 2.0GHz 65nm for me it still is.

[ryan92084]

Why is the one without the fan more than the one with the fan?

i know for a long time newegg had the 9850 oem as costing $20 more then the retail version. didn't make sense then either.

[catawalks]

i know for a long time newegg had the 9850 oem as costing $20 more then the retail version. didn't make sense then either.

A couple of months ago when I was looking at 2350's on newegg the WOF was like ~$2-3 less than retail. I know its not much but still. Maybe they just really need the money? lol. COME ON AMD!!!!! Make it affordable enough for me to buy 2 of them. Jerks.

[Macadamia]

The wait is killing me. I plan on building a dual socket quad core server box, but with 45nm right around the corner...

Edit: After seeing those prices, nevermind. $249 2.0GHz 65nm for me it still is.

The HEs are probably even cheaper, but you'd have to wait even longer.

[roofsniper]

i know for a long time newegg had the 9850 oem as costing $20 more then the retail version. didn't make sense then either.

retail prices drop but the oem price always stays the same.

[socrilles]

A couple of months ago when I was looking at 2350's on newegg the WOF was like ~$2-3 less than retail. I know its not much but still. Maybe they just really need the money? lol. COME ON AMD!!!!! Make it affordable enough for me to buy 2 of them. Jerks.

You did see the 2352's on ebay for $330 for a pair?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteron-2352-Qua...3286.m20.l1116

I got a pair of the 8346HE's for $110 after cashback unfortunately the cashback is over now

[catawalks]

You did see the 2352's on ebay for $330 for a pair?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteron-2352-Qua...3286.m20.l1116

I got a pair of the 8346HE's for $110 after cashback unfortunately the cashback is over now

I did not see that. I wanted NIB ones anyways. Even if it was like $200 more. Now its time to play the waiting game and save for the 6 core shanghai's.

[charged3800z24]

Looks like November .... I wonder when we will be able to get more info on Deneb?

[demonkevy666]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/10...at-resellers/1

officially launching until 13th of November

[roofsniper]

who knows why they delayed it. they had been in production for months and were completely ready to sell in october. maybe it has something to do with the selling of the fabs.

[mesyn191]

The new 45nm chips due out in Nov. are Opterons right? Is Jan/Feb '09 still the expected release date for 45nm desktop chips? They'll be AM3 socket only right or will they do a few AM2 socket chips as well? Really suprising how there isn't more leaked info. on these chips so close to launch, so much has already leaked on Nehalem already.

[roofsniper]

The new 45nm chips due out in Nov. are Opterons right? Is Jan/Feb '09 still the expected release date for 45nm desktop chips? They'll be AM3 socket only right or will they do a few AM2 socket chips as well? Really suprising how there isn't more leaked info. on these chips so close to launch, so much has already leaked on Nehalem already.

amd likes to keep it quiet. deneb is coming out late december at 2.8 and 3.0. the am3 versions are slated for a january/february release.

[charged3800z24]

amd likes to keep it quiet. deneb is coming out late december at 2.8 and 3.0. the am3 versions are slated for a january/february release.

the dec am2+ deneb's are still embargoed till jan 9th..right? I haven't heard any new news yet..

[roofsniper]

the dec am2+ deneb's are still embargoed till jan 9th..right? I haven't heard any new news yet..

according to an official amd roadmap deneb shows late December to early January for am2+.

[Particle]

The last I knew, the embargo was still in place. Shipments to retailers by late December and actual sales starting on the 9th.

[hstuehmeyer2000]

Here is the 8384 at buy.com
http://www.buy.com/prod/amd-opteron-...209765512.html

[roofsniper]

http://www.techpowerup.com/75296/AMD...ts_Stores.html some good info on shanghai

[Lightman]

PCLab.pl bring us some interesting info about Shanghai:

AMDs Randy Allen wrote to partners:

We are on the cusp of another big moment at AMD: the launch of our 45nm server processor codenamed “Shanghai”. “Shanghai” will be the industry's price/performance-per-watt leader for x86 servers, with dominant performance in workloads that matter: virtualization, web serving, and database.

In our Q308 earnings call, Dirk noted that "Shanghai" is now shipping to customers and that we will "have the best server platform in the business." Dirk’s statement is based on extensive AMD testing and the testing and validation process of our customers and technology partners. We believe that we’ll have a significant time to market advantage before our competitor ships anything resembling "Shanghai" performance in volume for 2P servers. And even more of an advantage for 4P servers.

Here’s a “Shanghai” status check:

* "Shanghai" is surpassing our expectations and, more importantly, the expectations of our customers’ and technology partners’. While we always planned to begin production of "Shanghai" in Q4 of this year, our plan was to launch in Q109 to ensure our customers and technology partners were fully ready. Thanks to the great work of the design and manufacturing teams, we pulled in our schedule and our partners are well on their way to completing validation to ensure systems ship here in Q4. This is almost unheard of in the server business. Raghuram Tupuri and his design team have officially helped put us back on path to flawless execution and developed an evolutionary product with revolutionary performance characteristics.

* The technology and manufacturing team have done incredible work in bringing up 45nm silicon. In fact, the silicon was so healthy and the process so mature that this is the fastest AMD Opteron™ processor that has gone from first wafer to production parts. Our leading-edge immersion lithography technology helps enable us to deliver dramatic performance and performance-per-watt gains, second only for an AMD processor to the initial transition to AMD dual-core. Our original plan of record for "Shanghai" was to launch at 2.4 GHz in the 75-watt ACP thermal band. We have been able to significantly exceed that frequency target and the parts are drawing much less power at both full load and idle than we originally expected. We believe many industry watchers will be pleasantly surprised with what they see from AMD at launch.

* When you combine all of this with the aggressive pricing "Shanghai" will offer, we like how we are positioned to go after the high-volume 2P server market in addition to further reinforcing our leadership position in the 4P and 8P market. "Shanghai" is planned to deliver enterprises unparalleled price/performance and set new performance records for the most critical and demanding server workloads. And just like AMD set the standard for power-efficiency in the datacenter starting in 2003 with the launch of the original AMD Opteron processor, we should do the same with what is driving much of the server growth today -- virtualization.

* We once again have a game-changing product that will create new competitive dynamics in the x86 server business and it only gets better later in 2009 when we plan to bring to market our "Fiorano" platform featuring some new virtualization innovations and our six-core "Istanbul" processor in the second half of next year. The great work that has been done with our 45nm process and design, sets the stage for an even stronger roadmap in 2009 across all of the CSG products. These products combined with our focus on execution and aggressively reducing our expenses are what will enable us to get back to sustainable profitability.


The author C.S. Lewis once said, "We are what we believe we are." Our technology and engineering teams believed they could bring a great product to market with "Shanghai." Now we, as a company, must collectively believe that we are a clear leader in server once again if we are to help our customers and partners believe the same.

Randy

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[charged3800z24]

PCLab.pl bring us some interesting info about Shanghai:

AMDs Randy Allen wrote to partners:




Bold text highlights most interesting bits.

That is great news.... I can't wait to see some reviews...I wonder if anyone caught the techreport review of i7...it isn't pretty...but, it looks that if AMD can bring 3.0ghz + we might see a good performance/price/power anyways on the desktop front...If you read the last part of the review..it seems they might have an insight of Deneb...I wonder if they have a chip..and have been testing, getting reading for review.

[charged3800z24]

Looks like 10 days for Shanghi.....and apperently the 2.8ghz and 3.0ghz Deneb's will follow...My credit card is ready

[Sparky]

If money allows I could see myself relegating my Q6600 to a cruncher only and turning my main PC to Deneb very easily. I have felt a bit dirty ever since I got my q6600

[G.Foyle]

PCLab.pl bring us some interesting info about Shanghai

Wow, I made the news me = author of the original article at PCLab

[Bandwidth]

Good news.

Seems like Shanghai/Deneb will have great performance per watt ratio, very similar to what Penryn has now. Overclockability should be similar too, I won't be surprised to see 3.8-4Ghz Deneb OC's on air.