The high VID thread.

[Loser777]

Let's make a thread for people to post and vent about their high VID chips...

My story:
March 2008, I buy a Q6600, but before I popped the chip in I returned it because it was an L804 and there was plenty of talk about how L80Xs sucked
June 2008, I buy a second Q6600, only to find that it has a VID of 1.3125v and does 3.6GHz only with 1.51+v
July 2008, I get rid of second Q6600 and buy my third... it had a VID of 1.2125v but I soon realized that it was a cruel joke... The worst kind... I was encouraged by it reaching 3.6GHz with 1.384v... then it wouldn't hit 3.7GHz no matter what. I eventually broke down and blamed my 750i and sold that to get a P5Q-E... only to find that the chip still wasn't stable (huge ass amount of time and effort wasted)
August 2008, I get rid of the third Q6600 and buy a Q9450, only to find that it has the highest VID possible- 1.25000v

I'm giving up on this sack of bull.
I've also lost quite an amount of blood from wrestling with Intel's pushpins from hell and the razor sharp fins on my HSF.

I know there are a lot of you guys out there who have had bad experiences with chips... Let's share.

[AgentGOD]

Yeah, I got a Q6600 with a VID of 1.3125v as well.

[RejZoR]

Heh, like describing my scenario, just with E4300. First i bought GA-965G-DS3 and was greatly dissapointed as it could only go to 2,4GHz stable. Replaced it with GA-965P-DS3 just to find out it can go no further than 3,15GHz stable. And i thought, ty GIGABYTE is playing tricks on me and have replaced it for P5Q Deluxe (the most expensive board i ever bought) just to find out that E4300 tops out at 3,3GHz stable. I had to go through 3 motherboards just to find out my E4300 has a crappy fsb wall far below 400MHz.
So i had to settle with 3,3GHz till i somehow find out how to get damn 3,5GHz stable out (while not using 1,9 volts lol) of it or just replace it with some E8xxx based chip...
Had chance to buy used Q6600 SLACR but someone bought it just a little before i contacted that guy so a no go. Ah well... a pit without a bottom for my wallet, thats for sure. :P

[AgentGOD]

I went through the EVGA 750i SLI FTW, and the P5Q Deluxe. This is also for me, the first time I spent over $129 on a motherboard.

[pablo906]

My new Q6600 is a dog. VID of 1.325.... Getting it stable to 3Ghz though only required taking the volts to 1.375 and it's prime stable.....not sure wtf is going on with this processor since it's stable to 2.8Ghz with 0 voltage bump.

[HighTest]

Ghaaaa!

I also have had poor luck, currently have an Intel Q6600 (S-SPEC: SLACR) (FP0/BATCH: L805A094) and it's 1.325 VID. I've been watching the Intel DX48BT2 thread and the G0 Q6600 thread in preparation for my OC attempts and now I'm sadly discouraged. Think I'll just try for 3GHz Prime Stable with little volt change, but then I see that some are only stable to 2.8GHz without a voltage change.

As to pins, sliced flesh and whatnot, I agree. My spouse thought she'd come in on a delicatesan nightmare when I'd had the HSF fins slice and dice me during the pushpin proccess on an OCZ Vendetta 2 installation. Worse yet, it would even fail to turn on! Thought the stress had broken the mobo! Upon close inspection, and despite working to always maintain a downward force, a pin on the LGA 775 had somehow been bent out of alignment. Fortunately I could use the straight edge of a credit card to repair the sucker, but are these LGA775 sockets wimpy or what?

Based on that experience, plus the stories of many others that have tried to get a good OC Q6600 to no avail, I'm reticent, oh yes reticent about mucking with new CPUs in an attempt to find another. After all, you can only build so many gaming rigs for your wife and yourself.

[gurusan]

high vid is not the end of the world. Of my q6600s I've had:

1.3250vid that did 3.64ghz on 1.45v
1.3125vid that did 3.737mhz on 1.48v
1.3000vid that did 3.8ghz on 1.49v

Not legendary clockers but I certainly wouldn't call that bad. these were all 24/7 stable overclocks as well

[Grnfinger]

I have been through a few quads myself all high VID's.
My last attemp I bought a Q6700 off ebay brand new OEM chip for 200 bucks, pop'd it in and what do you know VID of 1.325 another stellar chip.
But after a few days brooding over my latest waste of cash, I pop'd the chip back in and have a decent clock of 3.6GHz with 1.49 volts.
So while not the greatest chip it will do till Q9550's drop in price and I can waste more money on my quest for a quad core 4.0GHz 24/7 rig

[Sparky]

My first Q6600, G0, VID 1.3125. 2.45GHz with 1.45 volts 24/7 stable. 2.5GHz didn't seem to work even at 1.5 volts, core 2 would just bomb out on me every time, followed by core 3. Oh well.

[Leeghoofd]

Again a high VID doesn't necesarrily reflect a bad clocker, nor is it in any way an indication of being a good/bad clocker at low/high voltages...my best Qx is the highest VID I owned 1.215 does 4ghz at 1.25Vcore, same for the E8400, it's VID is 1.225 yet it does 4ghz at 1.21 lol.... and 1.5 volts for 2.4Ghz ops there's surely something other wrong...

There's more to life then VID... it's a reference but warrants zilch...

[philbrown23]

man you dont even want to know how many quads I have been through to try and find a low VID chip, 10! but I had best results with the Q6700 as not as many people bought them so less were made.

[spinejam]

1st Q6600 G0 vid = 1.325 ---- 3.5ghz @ 1.45vCore
2nd Q6600 G0 vid = 1.2625 ---- 3.6ghz @ 1.40 vCore (my sig)

[Zigosity]

Q9450, VID 1.2500, 3.6 at 1.35v.

I guess it's not too bad, really. I might even be able to bump that down a notch, if I really tried. And I feel your pain about Intel's pushpins and drawing blood on your HS, I think there's still a few little pieces of skin on my NB...

[politenessman]

i have had a few chips with low vid. none, that i could remember were particulary good overclockers. all ran very high temps relative to other chips with an equal amount of voltage over default. i havent gotten a really great overclocking chip since x2. but i get above average chips all the time. unlike many folks, i have absolutely no problem using lots of vcore, as long as my load temps are ok. i had an e8400 recently that ran about 16 hrs/day with 1.49v vcore. but it had good contact with the ihs so load temps never went above 67c on air. but thats the vcore i needed to hit 4400mhz. i have an e8500 now that runs 4600 all day with 1.44v vcore. i have no idea what the vid on these chips are. i stopped checking long ago.

[Loser777]

I've had two 1.3v+ VID Quads, two 1.2125v VID Quads, and one 1.2500v (Q9450).

Both did 3.6GHz pretty easily, but any higher started getting iffy.

I'm wondering if my memory is giving out?

I've yet to get a "lengendary" Quad.

[demowhc]

I'v a Q6600, can get it to 3.6Ghz 1.45v but not any higher.. so meh 3.6Ghz will do for now..

[WhiteFireDragon]

you guys have to remember that most people do not get good chips like seen on majority of the screenshots here on XS. it's nice to show off a good clocking chip, but who would want to brag about a shltty one? most of these bad chip owners keep quiet and sulk about it when they compare to many of the good chips seen here

[thehinge1]

My good ol' C2D E6400 is 1.325VID, but will 3.25GHz all day at 1.3375 setting in P5W-DH BIOS, will go higher but that mobo gets flaky beyond 406fsb (I have seen 3.39 stable with a volted NB and 1.375+ Vcore). When I get funds the P5W will become the media server as I really think this chip will do 3.6 or so.

The E7200 I just got is 1.0875VID batch Q808A796, but does not seem to like passing 3.9G without at least 1.3625v set in the bios on a P5K Pro. So far it seems to work best with 1.35Vcore at 9x multi for 431fsb and the ram running at 3:4 to get 575/DDR1150. My stix will do at least DDR1200 at 5-5-5-15 so I still have some tweaking to do. I'm on air -TRUE 120 'black'- and trying to keep this thing fairly quiet.

I'd love to get either chip on a P5Q-E or Biostar!

[LennyRhys]

I have had seven Q6600s in my system in the last week, all with VIDs at or above 1.3v... four of them were 1.3250s.

Again a high VID doesn't necesarrily reflect a bad clocker, nor is it in any way an indication of being a good/bad clocker at low/high voltages

High VID absolutely is indicative of the level of voltage required for certain clock speeds. Even the best high VID Q6600s need over 1.4v to do 3.6GHz stable. I have yet to see a 1.3250 VID that can do 3.6GHz under 1.45v... if one even exists. My lowest VID quad, 1.3000v, needed at least 1.55v bios to get 3.6GHz stable.

you guys have to remember that most people do not get good chips like seen on majority of the screenshots here on XS.

Very insightful and also very accurate. I suspect that there are A LOT of bad overclocking/high VID chips out there and we never hear about them. Conversely, which person that has one of the few 1.2125 VID Q6600s and can do 4GHz 24/7 is going to think "not bad I guess" and not say anything about it?

[holwill]

My Q6600 1.2625 L724A828 does
3.6@1.408 24/7 stable
3.825@1.508 24/7 stable
4.020@1.5875 3hrs stable got worried so stopped it.
4.140@1.608 benchable nothing more.

[Leeghoofd]

High VID absolutely is indicative of the level of voltage required for certain clock speeds. Even the best high VID Q6600s need over 1.4v to do 3.6GHz stable. I have yet to see a 1.3250 VID that can do 3.6GHz under 1.45v... if one even exists. My lowest VID quad, 1.3000v, needed at least 1.55v bios to get 3.6GHz stable.

I beg to differ on the VID, like I said it's an indication but does not guarantee anything...But you won't listen to me anyway as you got it all figured out... I can run most of my CPU's below the VID even at stock speeds... only thing that is mostly comon is that low VID CPU's are usually hotheads...how weird that may seem...

eg I have several wolfdales in my possession reight now, can you explain to me then why the 1.2250 VID performs on par at eg 3.6Ghz at 1.1 with the Xeon 3110 (VID 1.1625) and even surpasses it at 4ghz, the higher vid does it at 1.21Volts while the Xeon needs a whopping 1.29... same mobo, ram and cooling... With the 4 Qx 9650's I had, I can assure you it's NOT the lowest VID CPU I kept...

There's more to having a good cpu then just VID... batch, stepping, IHS flatness, core contact, wafer nr ....and last but not least some good old luck helps big time... only testing the CPU is a way to find out if it's good or not...and not all users have mega cooling or hardware to get it stable... it's not always the CPU...

[bartx]

Now I have E6420 chip with quite high VID for Conroe - 1.35V. It's a good one I think:
3280MHz - 1.35V orthos stable
3360MHz - 1.40V orthos stable
and
4520MHz - 1.825V 3D Mark 2006 stable under DI (it's one of the better E6420 on hwbot)
So, this isn't a rule - high VID = bad overclock.

[LennyRhys]

I beg to differ on the VID, like I said it's an indication but does not guarantee anything...But you won't listen to me anyway as you got it all figured out...

I agree with you for the most part, but regarding Q6600s not one of my high VID chips was a good overclocker. And I don't have it all figured out; I think you're misunderstanding me. I'll clarify:

I can run most of my CPU's below the VID even at stock speeds

Me too - I had my current 1.3215 VID Q6600 running with 1.165 in BIOS and it was ok but definitely not stable. On the contrary, did it do 3GHz at stock volts...heck - did any of my quads do 3GHz at stock volts? Nope. That's the point I'm trying to make about high VID chips, specifically Q6600s: they have a higher voltage requirement. Maybe I should be more clear and state that I'm referring specifically to the Q6600s, not the 45nm chips, so your Wolfdale's performance to VID ratio doesn't apply to what I'm saying. Sorry for the confusion; my bad.

I accept wholeheartedly that there are very good (even golden) high VID CPUs out there, but people like me who've had nothing but high VID CPUs that completely suck at overclocking reserve the right to moan about it.

[Xello]

Is 1.25v the highest possible VID for 45nm quads?

[LennyRhys]

Is 1.25v the highest possible VID for 45nm quads?

1.25 for wolfdales
1.325 for kentsfields
1.35 for conroes (I think)