Hands-On Windows 7 Milestone 1

[Warboy]

u'll need driver for that... are there nvidia drivers for win7 ?

From what I hear from my sources, M1 currently accepts Vista based Drivers.

[gillll]

kewl !

waiting to see some benches thanx

[Warboy]

kewl !

waiting to see some benches thanx

I'll work on that I wanna get my GTX 280 before I do benchs, But I guess I can do just a few before then.

[Jamesrt2004]

nice work mate really amazed you got these builds so early?
but thanks for sharing the info

[Warboy]

If I can get my hands on Milestone 2 when it hits, I'll let you guys know. Till then, I'm going to start working on M1 tonight and tomorrow. From What I know, DX11 Should be getting Previewed this Fall. If this is true, It should still make it into Windows 7. When W7 Goes Beta hopefully. I wonder....There is a modded UXtheme for it already too. If You look at WithinWindows.

[ORBR]

My Win 7 M1 is on the road to my home

I'll do some test with my rig ( 4 GB )
feel free to ask what test you want to see

[perkam]

My Win 7 M1 is on the road to my home

I'll do some test with my rig ( 4 GB )
feel free to ask what test you want to see

You're not related to OBR are you 0_o

Perkam

[ORBR]

From What I know, DX11 Should be getting Previewed this Fall.

mmmh none

http://speakers.nvision2008.com/agen...m?sessionid=39

[ORBR]

You're not related to OBR are you 0_o

Perkam

who is OBR?
he has a nick very similar to mine

ORBR means

Oriundi
Rapitori
Ben
Retribuiti

I'm from sardinia (Italy)

[Warboy]

mmmh none

http://speakers.nvision2008.com/agen...m?sessionid=39

Okay in August it will be previewed. Probably a Alpha build.

[Spawne32]

so is there anything else to get from this other then those screenshots look just like windows vista other then we still have no more information from microsoft about windows 7 then they have already told us?

[Warboy]

so is there anything else to get from this other then those screenshots look just like windows vista other then we still have no more information from microsoft about windows 7 then they have already told us?

Well, Like I said, I need to get it Active before I can start digging into Details. So I know what I'm talking about.

I'm about to put it on my 2nd HD for you guys.

[perkam]

who is OBR?
he has a nick very similar to mine

ORBR means

Oriundi
Rapitori
Ben
Retribuiti

I'm from sardinia (Italy)

Ah kk, my bad

Perkam

[ryanmartini]

soon as im done downloading my copy of the release candidate. ill be sure to run it through my 3ghz quad and 4gb ram.

[Spawne32]

Well, Like I said, I need to get it Active before I can start digging into Details. So I know what I'm talking about.

I'm about to put it on my 2nd HD for you guys.

Im looking forward to seeing somthing interesting, i have a copy of windows vista 64bit here and im contemplating going back to it after nehalem is released.

[kodiak kid]

Ok, I beta tested vista 64...how/where do I go about participating in this one?

[m^2]

LOL UAC, what a joke. Im confident they have something else just as annoying ready for the final build.

"Are you sure you want to turn off this computer yes/no?"

Maybe
"Are you sure you want to turn on this computer yes/no/cancel?"

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...rent=W7-14.png

kernel size is total 96 in your pic where my xp is 150mb and above.
it's good thing, do more then that and ms will have to reveal which linux kernel they had modded

What did you do to this poor XP? My uses 83 and the last time I installed, I skipped all usual optimizations because my hardware is fast enough.

[Helmore]

Ok, I beta tested vista 64...how/where do I go about participating in this one?

The Beta stage is still a long way off, this is Milestone 1 and there are probably still a couple of milestones to go before there is a (alpha first?) beta. My guess for the first beta would be around March/May 2009. That's not a very educated guess though

[gillll]

m^2 - i was talking generally without optimization.

windows 7 has a new kind of kernel - minwin which is suppose to be developed from scratch.
some pages on the web say that vista sp1/2008server are already minwin, but i don't think so.

google ms minwin

[Zaskar]

How big is the footprint, and how much memory did you assign to it.

Did they reduce the number of background processes, and have they gotten rid of UAC

Perkam

Footprint should be smaller, their aim with Windows 7 is to make the install modular, much like Linux. Their currently testing how that works with Windows Server 2008. You can choose to install just the core OS.

Why would they get rid of UAC? Talk to anyone who uses Linux and ask them what makes Linux so secure, its the fact that Nothing can run (that can modify anything atleast) without administrative rights, so you need to run them as an admin by logging in as one or poping in a password.

UAC emulates that. The only thing its missing is a "Always perform this action" checkbox, so it wont bug you again for that specific program, letting you create a sort of accepted list.
And of course a list you can view and edit that shows all the allowed programs in case you change your mind.

And if you Really don't like it for some odd reason (The equivalent of using Linux as the Root account, something any Linux user would laugh you out of the room for) it can easily be disabled.

[triple_A]

m^2 - i was talking generally without optimization.

windows 7 has a new kind of kernel - minwin which is suppose to be developed from scratch.
some pages on the web say that vista sp1/2008server are already minwin, but i don't think so.

google ms minwin

I'm pretty sure they got rid of the minwin kernel, and instead they're using a modified vista kernel..

And i don't know what everyone's b*tching about UAC ut anyway..
looking forward to see some more about this

[RaZz!]

m^2 - i was talking generally without optimization.

windows 7 has a new kind of kernel - minwin which is suppose to be developed from scratch.
some pages on the web say that vista sp1/2008server are already minwin, but i don't think so.

google ms minwin

the last infos about windows 7 revealed that it won't use the minwin kernel, but an modified vista kernel.

[gillll]

that's 2008 std core server on vmware, server is acting as dc and dns - 41mb kernel size that's nothing
you can see on my taskmgr that the whole os is taking 133mb.
the 2008 server is almost linuxish and fast. but when u add gui and all of the other stuff u get vista......... !

and that's the issue for most of us not the server.

forgot about the uac - >

try :
C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k %windir%\System32\reg.exe ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\System /v EnableLUA /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

to reverse
C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k %windir%\System32\reg.exe ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\System /v
EnableLUA /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

[Zaskar]

Well..........I guess I'll be waiting for Windows 7 transformation pack.

I got windows Vista 8 transformation pack in my XP pro and it looks just like Vista.....w/o the resource hogging.

Until you enter a game and XP, unlike vista doesnt completely unload the desktop.

It doesnt matter how many resources Vista uses on the desktop when in a Full screen 3D application.

[m^2]

m^2 - i was talking generally without optimization.

windows 7 has a new kind of kernel - minwin which is suppose to be developed from scratch.
some pages on the web say that vista sp1/2008server are already minwin, but i don't think so.

google ms minwin

No, it does not. Search XS news for minwin.