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    Quote Originally Posted by [ShowMe!] View Post
    Why not use 4 x 220 CFM deltas on the rad...

    That would eliminate all that construction work, and take up alot less space.

    And you would have 880 CFM per rad...

    Im assuming that sound is not a concern in this build....
    with the blower it's gonna be easy to put a airfilter on the thing & doing that with the 4 fans EHH i'd don't know how easy that'd be

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    Quote Originally Posted by [ShowMe!] View Post
    Why not use 4 x 220 CFM deltas on the rad...

    That would eliminate all that construction work, and take up alot less space.

    And you would have 880 CFM per rad...

    Im assuming that sound is not a concern in this build....
    Remember, the PQ curve of those individual Deltas isn't going to be anywhere near as strong as that blower (think of it like a bunch of low pressure, high flow pond pumps in parallel pitted against a couple RD-30's in series). As a result, the Deltas wouldn't be close moving 220CFM each through those GTX480's... that blower would, well, blow their socks off.
    I'm doing science and I'm still alive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike8913 View Post
    you shouldnt have to worry about condensation since your change in temperature is so minimal.
    Yeah that's what i was thinking !
    as the reason for the build is to get cool air thru the rads instead of warm room temp air with the only power use would be the motor on the blower not some refer
    Hey it's even Green sounding ! L O L

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    Going Furthur

    Got jacked around with the sheet metal guy
    I hate that when people waste my time

    SOO it was off to the industrial salvage yard to get some Goodies & found just what i need to replace the wood box ( some simple modding that all ) .. to make the airfilter mounts on the blower I also got some round metal duct (6 feet of it) leaves alot left over both for $10
    the airfilters are gonna be the ones i use for Rig#1's "The WindTunnel " 250mm fans
    10" pleted round sports car airfilters

    Pix when Da sun comes up
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    ALL NEW Direction METAL RULES !

    here's what i got @ the salvage yard
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    Mo' Pix Version#2

    here's the rework of the wood box Ver#1 makes a nice guide

    cut for Da blower & blower in place & fit perfectly
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    mo'pix

    blower in place & the cuts for the rads on the other end

    this is gonna be a steel box with 12" X 24" X 24"

    Gee I like to work with steel much better ! well after a little break then i'll post some more work !

    Very happy with what i've got done
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    are you planing on sealing around the rads too keep the pressure up?? unless of course the box would explode b/c of the air preasure, lol.

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    afternoon work !

    here's where I rework how the rads will sit ,figured seeing how I lenthened the box & made the airblast longer i'll get a more even flow & not have to have as of a large baffle inside
    I also need the rads to sit right next to each other as that surface is now smaller than Ver#1
    also included a rad protection sheild from sharp UFO's (learned the hard way )
    fab'ed up some strips to make the 2 rads a Unit & it's quite ridgid now
    on to Da pix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalmonkey View Post
    are you planing on sealing around the rads too keep the pressure up?? unless of course the box would explode b/c of the air preasure, lol.


    Yeah everything will be sealed quite tight to max the air pressure to the rads

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    mo'pix

    rad protection mockup looks like it's gonna work on UFO's !
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    end of day pix *** sealing rads tomorrow

    here's how the rads will sit "note blower hole at bottom" last pix the rads, inside up shot of the rad from the inside to show more how they fit ..some notching to do tomorrow soo they sit lower ,then making a neopren thick seal/gasket to seall every thing up around the rads ...
    all seams will be sealed with silicone & metal duct tape
    the 2nd last last pix is side view of the rads & the one rad I killed with stupity

    last shot was this was at the hardware store today look sharp !
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    GET THIS THING UP AND RUNNING!! then u should start mass producing. lol.

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    I wouldn't rule out the possibility of condensation completely. Like you mentioned earlier, all it takes for condensation to occur is a surface being cooler than the air around it. There's a build where some guy ran copper pipe through the ground under his property and basically used the cool ground beneath the surface as his heat exchanger. Naturally the ground temperature is lower than the air temp above ground, so condensation was a legitimate concern. It may or may not be for you, but for safety's sake I'd keep it on your mind.


    P.S. This build is my current favorite project. Keep it up man : )

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    As long as the temp difference isn't immense and he has a decent amount of airflow through the case he should have a problem with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chruschef in regards to Thermaltake water cooling
    you'd be better off cooling your components with a fire....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaptCrunch View Post
    need to worry after 5 degress of change and high % humidity of the area.

    note he's put heat in the crawl space and heat from MB will eat the sweat provided still using case fans
    Yeah i plan at least 3 12o's mm fans

    or even a pair of 250mm's fans blowing at the MoBo & drives as they run silent


    WELL back to work on this ! more pix later today of what i get done

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    all day rad protection sheild

    Well i got a UFO sheild up
    useful
    kinda over kill but i want it easy removeable & tuff

    as i have to haul this thing into the crawl space without damageing the rads

    here's the pix

    notch work to get the rads sitting in opening well

    gonna seal Rads with silicone easiet way
    the way they sit on the box useing weather stripping as seals would be a PIA
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    mo'pix rad hold down

    this the rad hold down single bar across the center will use screws/washers from the inside to attach futher. u will see that in later pix
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    UFO sheild

    here's the overkill rad protection system i used
    it as all so uses the hold down bar for the rads
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    MO'Work

    more detail on hold down & sheild
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    these shots show the inside of the rad fitting & where i'll attach the rads futher to the box this will help pull the seam tight ..then it time for silicone all the contact points

    as i tested the VER#1 for flow & water temp dump & figured out the baffle AND everything worked very well
    i'm not gonna test this till every thing is ready for assy .
    now all i got left is mount the blower & seal up on this
    I now have to do the plumbing work & build the PC
    I have a test bed & will test the MobO . pull the stock cooling off ,put all EK blocks on everything but a V2 on the CPU all will be tested on the Bed then installed in Case testing agin then testing once more
    all loops & blocks will get a 24 hour test all by themselves with EK res's & Iwaki pumps
    then it's under the house for hook up & another round of testing
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    the Rad's sit flush with the surface on the steel box & sealing will be easy with silicone

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaptCrunch View Post
    note he's put heat in the crawl space and heat from MB will eat the sweat provided still using case fans
    the air flow after the cooler will be directed at the chimney base as it has a area that will vent the warm air produced by the cooler to the attic

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    back to work on this tomorrow (been working hellava O/T to get the cash up to pay down the CC)

    the underfloor cooler is done just have to do the assy & seal work all but a 1/2 hour of work on the steel box cooler
    , next up on the build is the External reseviors & pumps housing ,looking at constructing a (10" X 12" or what ever size i need for all the items ) black lexan box build (AL channels & angles will be the skeleton) to sit next to the PC , to mach the monolith black tower case i'm gonna use for the PC .I wanted the outside box soo i can easly sound pruff the pumps & have the pumps & psu's for them on a single switchable power

    The box will house the 2 Iwaki rd30's, 2 power supplies for the pumps & the 2 EK Res400's
    the EK res400's will rise from the inside back side of the box to reach the highest point on both loops to make bleeding & fillin' possiable
    both res's lighted up with LED's with blue lites on a loop & red lites on the other loop
    ordered the sound dampning from CyberDriud yesterday
    got vibration dampners for the pumps . gonna dbb up this part as the Iwaki's will be mounted on a steel plate with dampners on the pump feet & the steel plate will mount in the box on another set of dampners
    the box will also house the KazeMaster for in/out temps monitoring that will go on the front with all the switches / idiot lites
    it will also have idiot lite for the blower with a single switch that turns everything on at once & then supplies A/c pwr to the PC that way the blower/pumps will be up & running when i hit the start button on the PC
    comments & suggestions ARE VERY welcome
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    Mo'pix

    sealed up the rads with silicone came out clean looking & was the simple way to seal the air tight

    not like anyone is gonna crawl under the house to look at this part of the build

    Note the end piece with rads is removeable in case i need future maint . on the thing OR to swap out for them new Rad's that Fessor's has that just hit the market !
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