How to watercool a P180 mini ?

[Tw1st3d]

Hi

I getting' this case in near future for some hardware i have.

So i probably going to get rid of my ATX board and my P182 and switch to the P180 mini and water cool it..

P180 mini review http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1246

Here is my idea so far



Going all internal with Dual bay pump in bottom and 2 x 120 rad's

What do you think ?

Fell free to come with idea's..

[AliG]

why would you downgrade from a p182 to a p180 mini though?

I'm no watercooling expert but I've heard its best to avoid bay pumps

[Tw1st3d]

I want a smaller case and I want too try something new like SFF / Micro ATX

[Loser777]

Most microATX boards are absolute lemons for overclocking. I recommend you stay away...
My M2NPV-VM can't OC for beans...

[Tw1st3d]

Well Gigabyte DS2R do 400-500 fsb and so do Asus P5E HDMI

So there is options..

[Cptn Vortex]

Would there be any way to mount a PA120.2 under that top massive fan? Maybe build some form of Shroud?? Cause that would be killer.

Also, the P5E-VM HDMI is a great board, but I found it is pretty pissy. Takes quite a while to get a hang of NB core voltages and such. I'm sure that was because I was OC'ing with the onboard graphics.... But I was still able to get 400+FSB. It's a great little board, just remember to actively cool the NB.

[3lfk1ng]

Most microATX boards are absolute lemons for overclocking.

DFI is branching into the mATX overclocking market. They just haven't released any yet.... but when they do come out, expect solid DFI overclocking mATX mobos .

[Tw1st3d]

Hmm there is actually quite a bit clearance between MB and the fan - maybe i could fit in a Dual radiator somehow

Just read VR-zone's review of P5E HDMI - and they made it over 500 mhz fsb - its just like.. wow.. mATX and +500 fsb o_O

DFI and mATX sounds... EXCITING!

Also found this XFX mATX board which also OC'es fairly well and its really cheap!

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1245

[earthwormjim]

Top mount would probably be your best bet if you're into cutting. Could probably fit a 3x120 radiator at the top. You'd lose the top drivebay, but you'd still have the bottom two.

Depending on clearance you could probably do a side mount with a 3x120 or 2x120 rad. Have the radiator mounted in the door and use quick release plugs when you need to remove the door.

If you really want a tiny case though, I think something like this would be better: http://www.xoxide.com/chieftec.html

Use an matx board and do a bottom mount.

[Tw1st3d]

Well i going to get this no matter what, since i trading some old hardware away for it..

So Ifound a review on silentpcreview were there a picture of the fan


The fan is 200 mm in diameter, so i would guess the holes have a 140 mm pattern, so i could probably either mount a dual under it with zipties or a DIY metal bracket, long screws and bolts.

Edit: Just looked a bit on picture and can see there is a ruler which shows about 6 inches from hole to hole than is approx 14-15 mm.

[SafeFire]

Would there be any way to mount a PA120.2 under that top massive fan? Maybe build some form of Shroud?? Cause that would be killer.

A PA160 would do that nicely I think. The only problem is that it would be a pain to connect it to a cpu block without kinking the tubing.

[Tw1st3d]

A PA160 would do that nicely I think. The only problem is that it would be a pain to connect it to a cpu block without kinking the tubing.

Yeah that's why I'm not going to use any PA even thou they have really nice cooling abilities, but i going use a slim radiator like XSPC

[SoulsCollective]

+1 for PA.160

Also, why bother with a bay pump? A T-line and an MCP350 will fit in just fine, and give you much better flow than that tiny bay pump/res combo.

[Tw1st3d]

+1 for PA.160

Also, why bother with a bay pump? A T-line and an MCP350 will fit in just fine, and give you much better flow than that tiny bay pump/res combo.

Well mostly because of this http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/XSPC...mp-Review.html

The price is also very nice around 30£ !

[Tw1st3d]

Hi i got the case now.

And here is some measurements

Between PSU and 2 x 5,25" bays there is 10 cm

In one of the HDD's bay there is 12.5 (hight) x 17 cm (width)

Between MB and 200 mm fan there is 3 x 24 cm approx (Hard ot measure right)

So that would make...

Almost PA120.1 in HDD bay area

Almost XSPC Dual by the 200 mm fan area

Hmm that sucks..

Guess i could do this..

2 x 120 mm XSPC, 1 in HDD Bay area and 1 at back fan.

but 2 x 120 mm rad's kinda suck..

And i think I'll have to use 90 degrees fittings in bottom if i choose to use the dual bay pump..

I have also been offered this http://www2.asetek.com/main/page.asp?sideid=681 for 40$ + shipping

Where i could use some of it, sell the rest.. Not sure, i think its too weak.

Hmm... I'll go think somewhere

[Tw1st3d]

LOL this fan is huge! Makes my San Ace look ridicules ^^



It also has a very nice airflow.

On low can't hear it and it push loads, sitting 40 cm away and my hair is waving..

On medium a bit noise and really nice airflow

On high its rather noisy but it has AWESOME airflow

[Giannis86]

what kind of fan is this? bearing, make, etc?
is that 250mm fan or wut?

[Tw1st3d]

what kind of fan is this? bearing, make, etc?
is that 250mm fan or wut?

Its the 200 x 225 mm fan from P180 mini
http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=75200

Its awesome!

Antec sell it as retail

You can find more info on the fan in the P180 mini review on www.silentpcreview.com

[Giannis86]

are you going with the initial layout or top mount?

if you mount it as ilustrated in your diagram i would use that big *** fan to exhaust warm air

if i were you i would place the cd rom lower and cut some holes on top and use a 240 rad or even better a 360 one..that would allow you to keep the rear fan exhaust as well

[Tw1st3d]

I have eternal DVD drive - so that problem is out the way.

I want it all internal - no matter what and i don't fell i like cutting in my case.

I might go external then, since PA2.120 with 2 San Ace 1011 would be awesome..

Or PA120.1 in HDD Bay (I think i can push it in) + XSPC 120.1 at exhaust fan.

Think, think..

[Giannis86]

well other than 2 single rads i dont see what else you can do to mount them internally without modding your case..check this though



1.This one i liked the best but it has some modding though. However, im unsure if it would fit as i dont have the dimensions
Place the Psu above the mobo (dont know the dimensions and if it would fit.. you would have to make a cut for the psu though..). Then you could put 1 or 2 double (or tripple possibly if you removed that box) rads sideways. There would be the problem of your sidepanels then though and again i am not sure if a rad would fit sideways between the divider and the bottom...

2. As you suggested below, you could put a double rad on top. Since the length of the fan is 225 that means it would cover most of the radiator surface and allow for sufficient airflow without blocking the airflow of the 2nd fan

[F1ZZY]

120.2 in the front 2 fan/hdd bays, cut out below to allow barbs, use t line and ddc with XSPC top.

You could always add a further 120.1 on the back if needed.
Still got cd-rom bay up top.
can either put hdd in very bottom bay or use MM style brackets and hang off rad

would be a little bit of internal chopping, but would lookm stock from outside

[[XC] NetburstXE]

^^Best solution IMO

[Tw1st3d]

Thx for the nice picture.

Here is some dimensions / measures (not sure what's right)


PSU: 150mm(W) x 86mm(H) x 150mm(L)

My PSU could almost be in HDD bay area and then i could have a triple / dual in bottom..

Many options ^^

[F1ZZY]

That bottom measurement can't be right 30cm??? specs say 43.6cm deep