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    i'm trying this right now, seems really interesting

    hopefully i won't screw up
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    Has anyone seen the ASUS Maximus Extreme Open Box selling for $29.99 at newegg? They where up last night for a while, and now today for the last 30min. Both times they went OOS, but I was able to order 2 before they did. They might get more in since the item hasnt been discontinued.

    Open Box: ASUS MAXIMUS EXTREME LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard


    So I was wondering, is there going to be an X48 variant of this board to flash the bios too? At $29.99, it is worth a shot to try!
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    how the hell do you guys go in msdos with XP and the bios is bigger than a frickin floppy disk

    edit ok i found a workaround, if anyone is interested i'll explain

    a few things i noticed with the "new" bios

    hardware monitor doesn't work
    vcore goes up on full load example: 1.304 idle > prime 1.312, not much of a change but still - EDIT denied by my dmm 1.308 idle/1.309 full load
    vcore is not reported right in everest, cpu-z is right on tho
    nb/sb temps in the bios are in the minus, so i guess it's not right :P
    the extra memory tweaking is AWESOME! can't wait to play with this tomorrow
    the voltage "zone" determined by colors are off and not to be used, there's some pretty crazy voltage available in this bios watch what you're doing!

    sill checking stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by mk-ultra View Post
    how the hell do you guys go in msdos with XP and the bios is bigger than a frickin floppy disk

    edit ok i found a workaround, if anyone is interested i'll explain

    a few things i noticed with the "new" bios

    hardware monitor doesn't work
    vcore goes up on full load example: 1.304 idle > prime 1.312, not much of a change but still - EDIT denied by my dmm 1.308 idle/1.309 full load
    vcore is not reported right in everest, cpu-z is right on tho
    nb/sb temps in the bios are in the minus, so i guess it's not right :P
    the extra memory tweaking is AWESOME! can't wait to play with this tomorrow
    the voltage "zone" determined by colors are off and not to be used, there's some pretty crazy voltage available in this bios watch what you're doing!

    sill checking stuff
    Connect an USB stick formatted under FAT preloaded with the bios rom and afudos. Configure the stick as a Hard Drive under bios and boot with a Windows 98 CD or any other OS that let you read into the USB stick. Now you can access afudos and flash the bios


    Report using the Rampage 0219 Bios:

    -Yes hardware monitor does not work
    -I can confirm that the Vdroop is minimal with this bios and does not require the pencil mod
    -CrAzY voltages -> User Beware
    -CrAzY Ram tweaking options -> I'm not sure if all the options work under the P5E hardware
    -My E6600 was able to run a couple of Mhz faster with this bios using less voltage
    -Finally my 1:1 memory divisor works with bus over 333Mhz. This allowed me to attain 520Mhz bus (This was impossible using the P5E bioses)
    -The bios feels more responsive and post faster than using the PE5 bios
    -No need to re-install the OS
    -The second network in bios and LCD does not work of course
    Last edited by askimo; 03-19-2008 at 05:03 AM.
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    Hardware monitor WORKS for me!

    AND FINALLY 4:5 DIVIDER WORKS!!!

    Even if you don't stay with it, use this BIOS a little to check how it works. I'm going to try Maximus 1004 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by EOD View Post
    Has anyone seen the ASUS Maximus Extreme Open Box selling for $29.99 at newegg? They where up last night for a while, and now today for the last 30min. Both times they went OOS, but I was able to order 2 before they did. They might get more in since the item hasnt been discontinued.

    Open Box: ASUS MAXIMUS EXTREME LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard


    So I was wondering, is there going to be an X48 variant of this board to flash the bios too? At $29.99, it is worth a shot to try!

    ROFL, "deactivated item"... They pulled that really quick.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by peebi View Post
    Yes

    Boot at dos prompt type Afudos /iromname.rom /pbnc /n

    At romname U can use maximus rom such 907.rom
    use P5E rom such 502.rom
    And Big news Rampage rom such 219.rom at tread

    Thank ZenEffect And Everybody at that tread
    Tks peebi i will try it at the weekend
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    M@ster, please let us know the benifits you found with going from the P5E bios to the Rampage. I'm trying to find posts about the flash on the P5E boards but am having to go through every post at the other thread.

    If I could do this without any affect to my raid array and get the benifits others are getting, especially the lower(generally) volts for same clocks, I'd do it right away.
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    I done it a few hours ago, with my dual boot being on a raid0 set, and it was fine. Just had to re-select raid in the bios after clearing cmos.

    No testing as of yet, it's to darn hot here today.

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    Is going to the Rampage bios as simple as flashing with a Rampage bin?
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    Read the thread on it, it's not very diffcult (once you have the right dos files to boot from).

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    So, is there a "substancial" reason for me to flash to a Maximus/Formula bios?? I'd like to get my quad stable at 3.7/3.8 with the 8gb i have in, is that even possible????
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    Why don 't you just stick with 3.6Ghz? You can then run the memory at it's rated speed with decent timings. A CPU clock increase of 100-200 Mhz. is not going to make any noticeable difference.

    Now, if you talking about going from 3.6 to 4.0, then that might be worthwhile.

    I personally would never flash a bios not designed for the motherboard model, especially if you're not going to get a superior overclock or better stability.

    BTW, If anyone is having serious issues with Ram compatibility, this Ram is 100% compatible with the P5E - Now in stock: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820231065

    I'm very happy with a cool and 100% stable 3.6Ghz with 4GB DDR-2 800 at 4-4-4-12 timings with my E8400. For now at least.

    By the way, how do you like your Physx card?

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    update on the rampage bios

    the new everest 4.50.1330 read all the infos voltages/temps correctly, also the motherboard name is "correct" it says rampage formula

    @ screwtech02

    nothing substantial, but just try it if flashing a bios is not a problem for you, it takes like 10 minutes and you can go back easily

    but i doubt it will affect your OC ability, at least i didn't noticed anything here
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    Thank's for the input Ultra, thought as much....

    Intrepid, physx card is ok i guess, too bad you dont know if its ever working or not..... More of a "I've gopt one" type thing........
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    hey guys, worth it getting a p5e for a q9450? OR should I get a p35 board. Planning on a small oc, 3.2ghz i guess? Trying to save money, but it seems the ip35 pro has problems with 45nm chips from what I've read. Only way to run them is with beta bios and the last official bios update was in 2007-09-06. So I don't know whats best for running a q9450... I'm lost heh
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    This is what I found using the Rampage Bios in my cheap P5E:

    - Able to run my memory with tighter timings (New: 5,4,4,12,4,30,4,4 vs Old: 5,5,5,15,5,45,5,6). Some of the other sub-memory settings were improved as well
    - Able to run with 266 strap and 6 in the transaction booster. This configuration while it was done before with software using memset under windows it always crashed my system. 7 was the maximun with 333 strap
    - Able to run my CPU around 90Mhz faster with lower voltages across the board maintaining the same CPU voltage used before
    - The bios seems quicker, more responsive and offers much more control over your hardware
    - My Raptors in RAID didn't suffer any problem, but a full reinstall of your OS is apparently recommended specially for CF environments
    - Booting times to Win Vista are the same
    - The big win for me is to be able to use the 266 strap over 400Mhz of Bus with the Transaction booster at 6 while using 4 sticks of memory
    - This is a no brain process that can be easily reversed if it doesn't meet your expectations
    Last edited by askimo; 03-20-2008 at 06:19 PM.
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    I also considered the Abit IP35-Pro, which is the top rated P35 board. But this board has it's own set of problems and the P35 chipset will soon be just a memory. The P5E is designed to support all the latest 45nm CPU's and of course the Q9560 with bios 0502 or later. Go with P5E and the following memory and you won't have any problems. A proper memory marriage is important with the P5E. Don't skimp on memory - you'll be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plion View Post
    hey guys, worth it getting a p5e for a q9450? OR should I get a p35 board. Planning on a small oc, 3.2ghz i guess? Trying to save money, but it seems the ip35 pro has problems with 45nm chips from what I've read. Only way to run them is with beta bios and the last official bios update was in 2007-09-06. So I don't know whats best for running a q9450... I'm lost heh
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    I don't understand the differences between ram. I currently have Ballistix 5300 on my P5k and have a P5E coming in the mail...

    As far as I understand it my Ballistix have the same D9 chips as the G.Skill HZ chips...why would the G.Skill be better? I mean my current ballistix do 1178 5,5,4,13 @ 2.2v so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't do the same on a P5E?
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    Your Ballistix 5300 may work just fine. Test it using the program below.
    I'm just saying that many people had problems with their RAM, so I suggested some I knew was 100% compatible.

    Note: The P5E over-volts Ram by .05 volts.
    My G.Skill is rated at 2.0 - 2.1 volts. However, I run it at 1.9 volts and it's 100% reliable per MemTest+

    ** Memtest86+ V2.01 (21/02/2008) **
    http://www.memtest.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusan View Post
    I don't understand the differences between ram. I currently have Ballistix 5300 on my P5k and have a P5E coming in the mail...

    As far as I understand it my Ballistix have the same D9 chips as the G.Skill HZ chips...why would the G.Skill be better? I mean my current ballistix do 1178 5,5,4,13 @ 2.2v so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't do the same on a P5E?
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    I have a question regarding the soundcard for this motherboard.
    In a few pictures I've seen, its plugged into the black PCI Express 1x Slot, does it have to go there? I'd rather have it in the lowest one, out of the way of my graphics card. Is this possible?


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    I don't know for sure because I use a SoundBlaster Xfi.

    However, the manual implies No. I've read in the forum that the black pci express slot only works with the included sound card.

    Anyone?
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    yep IT HAVE to go there

    i like it there, it's my heatpipe fan support
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    Hi,
    i have asus p5e, E2160 1.8ghz
    Now i'm running cpu on 3.2Ghz
    Vcore - 1.44v
    FSB Term. - 1.46v
    North bridge - 1.51v
    Other voltage is AUTO
    Cpu temperature on load - 51C with ZALMAN 9700NT.
    It's looks like Vcore is too big, for E2160 ( in some forums, it's running on 3.6ghz with vcore 1.44v. and sth like that )

    1st question: How can i more overclock my cpu? What to change and sth like that...
    2nd: is not too big temperature for 9700nt? The cooler is always cold, when i touch it, even when cpu is loaded.. Maybe thermal grease (ZM-STG1) is bad "brushed" on cpu (i don't know that word ), because i buy pc with this cooler, and it was on cpu, when i get it

    sorry for my english...
    thanks.

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