Ballistix PC8500

[zsamz_]

I just received my Ballistix from Direct Canada/NCIX and it seems like Crucial now have a new heat spreader for their product... My heatspreader are smaller on don't cover the top of the memory... Looks sick though

why from directcanada its more expensive there
me and turtletax got ours for 70$ shipped
now they on sale for 95$ shipped

[turtletrax]

Have you tried going higher? Mine were Memtest stable at 2.3V 1200 4-4-4-4-8 on the P35 DS4 tRFC42 PL5. I've ran 1T at 4-4-4-4 900 1.9V on the K9A2 without problems, quite pointless in terms of performance though.

I am starting to reach where I want to be on proc and now and starting to test max of other things. I am struggling with FSB right now with 475+ on my quad.I have 475 stable but will be a battle much farther past. I will back off and test the ram more this weekend. Should have final results on Sunday.

[zsamz_]

i just got mine
i gotta say i'm impressed 2.13v where my old mushkins needed 2.26v
how u like dem apples mushkin

this is only 2.26v my mushkins couldnt do this @ 5-4-4-12

[S1mon-]

why from directcanada its more expensive there
me and turtletax got ours for 70$ shipped
now they on sale for 95$ shipped

I got a deal on Direct Canada also and I bought a few things that made it cheaper than if I had ordered from NCIX

[2good4you]

Loc.o, please if you can, how is overcloking on your ASUS Formula with 4*1GB Ballistix 8500?

[zsamz_]

Loc.o, please if you can, how is overcloking on your ASUS Formula with 4*1GB Ballistix 8500?

i know loco doin good with 4 sticks of ballistix on the asus formula
its the only x38 doin good with 4 stix

[turtletrax]

Hey Zsamz

What speed and timings are you running your stix at?

And for those asking for pics of the new heatspreaders...





Viola!

[JS1234]

why from directcanada its more expensive there
me and turtletax got ours for 70$ shipped
now they on sale for 95$ shipped

Oh my god! Look at this! Soooo tempting!

http://www.canadacomputers.com/main....id=RAM.346.754

[maxwedge]

I just received my Ballistix from Direct Canada/NCIX and it seems like Crucial now have a new heat spreader for their product... My heatspreader are smaller on don't cover the top of the memory... Looks sick though

I just had a set arrive at my door last night and they have the same heatspreader as the older ones. From buy.com for $105 shipped. Not as good of a deal as the guy with the tracers lol!

Cutting down on costs is IMO, about the hs.

just got my 2x1GB Tracers from buy.com , bought them for $70 on BF

Unfortunately, my 975xbx2 is really showing its age and really hinders this nice set. Running the Tracers at 975MHz @ 4.4.4.10 at 2.16v atm

[zsamz_]

Hey Zsamz

What speed and timings are you running your stix at?

as of right now i'm being verry gentle with them since i memtested them only 1 pass
2.13v @1040 4-4-4-12-3-3-6-42 "mushkin xp2-8500 needed 2.26v"
i was doing 1100+ @4-4-4-12 with 2.26v
i'll let them burn in before i torture them
i feel like sellin my mushkins when they come back n buyin 2 more kits
i hope the future crucial sticks are as good
when i got more time i'll do more tests

[maxwedge]

Hey Zsamz

What speed and timings are you running your stix at?

And for those asking for pics of the new heatspreaders...





Viola!

I wonder why your part # is different? Is that from a 2gb kit?
These are my new ones...

[lazy]

i have a question guys... i have this this ram and the pc 6400 version..

when i run the 8500 version on my motherboard the spd only comes as
800mhz

Can i just oc it to the stock speeds or more?

its running 550 5-5-5-15 right now but was wondering if i can run it higher since it is already rated for 533

[turtletrax]

I wonder why your part # is different? Is that from a 2gb kit?
These are my new ones...

Yup, is a 2x1GB kit.

[S1mon-]

Yep I got the same heatspreader then Turtle

[JS1234]

i have a question guys... i have this this ram and the pc 6400 version..

when i run the 8500 version on my motherboard the spd only comes as
800mhz

Can i just oc it to the stock speeds or more?

its running 550 5-5-5-15 right now but was wondering if i can run it higher since it is already rated for 533

I think the rated speeds for it is 800mhz. But you should definitely be able to get more!

[KTE]

Yep. SPD is usually low. If its crucial ballistix, set it to 2.2V and that should get you DDR2-1200 4-4-4-4 at least.

Mine are like yours turtletrax but Black/Yellow HS. P/N is 79882.

[Cyrezz]

Im thinking of buying theese sticks.
Should i use 3€ for a 80mm fan and put it over at low volt, or should I just let the heatspreaders do the work?

Please PM/email me

[zsamz_]

Yep. SPD is usually low. If its crucial ballistix, set it to 2.2V and that should get you DDR2-1200 4-4-4-4 at least.

Mine are like yours turtletrax but Black/Yellow HS. P/N is 79882.

i cant do 4-4-4-4 with 2.2v and these are the best i ever had
its more like 2.4 like most others are doin it @ lol

[Zeus]

Yep. SPD is usually low. If its crucial ballistix, set it to 2.2V and that should get you DDR2-1200 4-4-4-4 at least.

Really?

Get me a set mate, DDR1200 4-4-4 with just 2.2V is as rare as a virgin in a nightclub.

Mine need 2.55V, not even sure if it's 32M stable though.

[turtletrax]

Really?

Get me a set mate, DDR1200 4-4-4 with just 2.2V is as rare as a virgin in a nightclub.

Mine need 2.55V, not even sure if it's 32M stable though.

I agree. I gave it a shot and had to clear CMOS

[Zeus]

I agree. I gave it a shot and had to clear CMOS

Clear Cmos?

I thought every mboard has a decent overclocking-failure recovery nowadays?
Which board is that, no Asus i assume?

[zsamz_]

if mine did it @ 2.3v i would be kissin the stix
mine did boot @ 4-4-4-4 but you should see the errors lol
i need 2.45v to get if fully stable for 4-4-4-12
but 5-4-4-12 is g00d enough @ those speeds

[KTE]

i cant do 4-4-4-4 with 2.2v and these are the best i ever had
its more like 2.4 like most others are doin it @ lol

I thought you guys would be running far less V for 32M. Are we talking about bench stable or 24/7?

Whats the real VDIMM your board feeds it?

That's not like mine anyway, I have them right here. I've had 2 pairs of 2x1GB XMS2 C4 PC2-6400 v2.1 ProMos very recently and one 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500.
My Corsair XMS2 C4 6400 did stock volts 800 3-2-2-1: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=268235

They did 540 4-4-4-4 PL6 max 32M stable at 2.3V. 650 5-5-5-15 PL6 at 2.35V 1M stable and 650 5-5-5-18 will do 32M and any bench. 2.3/2.35V 30-40 times killed them so I back off away from that now, very far from it for any run. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=268262

This was 656 5-5-5-18 2.35V (quite unstable although loads Windows etc): http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=268232




They did 660 max at those 2.35V volts IIRC. A quick look and yep, 660 @ 2.35V 5-7-7-25: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=268240

The Crucial do 526 5-5-5-5 at 1.9V fully bench stable. Benched 4-4-4-4 at 500 1.9V I think, not sure right now if that was the speed but definitely was the V/timings and past 850. Check my X4 9500 thread, that's all 1.9V, you have 900 5-5-5-5 1T @ 1.9V in there (although unstable).

On Gigabyte P34 DS4 they did 2.2V 1200 4-4-4-4 quite easy. This was 1200 4-4-4-5 PL5 at stock volts:



I benched 1M 676 5-5-5-5 and everything else I tried was 5-5-5-15 PL6 at 2.3V. Like this:





This again was stock 2.2V:






562 because I never tried higher at those CPU clocks.

2.3V gets above 700 5-5-5-15. This is 2.35V 725 6-8-8-31: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=273859

I didn't even try to lower timings. It was a quick run just for my information. I hardly changed tRFC for any of them though because all I was trying was to see that if they would do 600 or higher 4-4-4-4 for CDT/CW testing 'cus I couldn't get high FSB on CPU.

But I 'aint going to kill them as my last ones went with just 2.3/2.35V regular even with Delta 152CFM cooling, so I've not pushed more. 2.35V is max I've pushed and only after they were below subzero temps, ambient 3C, delta 220CFM spinning on them.

BTW the Corsair RAM at same settings/speeds is faster than the Crucial I tested.

[Zeus]

Believe me, 2.2V for DDR1200 4-4-4 is absolutely awesome, especially if it's some sort of benchable.

DDR1200 or even higher at 5-5-5 timings is nothing special though, almost all D9 can do that.

Performance level has nothing to do with your memory, it's all in the chipset.

[KTE]

Believe me, 2.2V for DDR1200 4-4-4 is absolutely awesome, especially if it's some sort of benchable.

DDR1200 or even higher at 5-5-5 timings is nothing special though, almost all D9 can do that.

At those volts 1350 5-5-5-15 bench stable is pretty good RAM AFAIK. I haven't tested more, but if someone bought them off me they could trash them all they like. I'm not bothered of what speed or timings they reach, I only run 1000-1066 5-5-5-15 at 2.1V given the choice.

Performance level has nothing to do with your memory, it's all in the chipset.

Thats not my experience or findings. Corsair RAM on the same everything is quicker in 1M/32M than the Crucial I tested. I've already tested this in the CDT thread, it's all there and someone else posted with similar test findings before me.