Superpi score proofs Phenom X4 is a bit faster than Athlon64 X2...

[savantu]

Ahh, only a Sith talks in absolutes. Honestly, having proof works both ways. Let's see some proof that it is BS!

K10 scores lower than Kentsfield in the 3Dmark 2006 CPU test.

A QX6700 with 2 2900XTs in Crossfire mode ( all stock ) scores ~15k points.


Enlighten me how adding another card ( 33% ) more GPU power will make the score jump 100%.
Even assuming linear scaling that's not possible.The same for a mild OC ( air ).

[Zucker2k]

K10 scores lower than Kentsfield in the 3Dmark 2006 CPU test.

A QX6700 with 2 2900XTs in Crossfire mode ( all stock ) scores ~15k points.


Enlighten me how adding another card ( 33% ) more GPU power will make the score jump 200%.
Even assuming linear scaling that's not possible.The same for a mild OC ( air ).

You mean 100%. 200% increase of 15k is 45k.

[savantu]

You mean 100%. 200% increase of 15k is 45k.

True.

[EvlUndrWareNome]

The ignorance about Phenom is just truly amazing. The only thing this thread is is people complaining about Super Pi. Who gives a crap about a lil gadget that calculates Pi?!

If your that mezmorized about it, go buy a 486 and calculate 32mb and amuse yourself for a week or so at a time.

Wheres the rendoering tests, all out gaming benchmars, 1024x768 scores with games, etc...

or even 3dmark? Lets see something run a REAL benchmark and not an indicator of how well your Intel CPU works.

AMD enthusiasts know AMD doesn't take the crown in super pi, why would we care? If it runs games quickly , VM's, servers, rendering, etc...

Please someone help me to understand this worthless benchmark beyond the realm of stability testing is so touted to inflate someones online ego. It seems every single thread on Phenom just ends in kids crying about super pi scores.

[hipro5]

The ignorance about Phenom is just truly amazing. The only thing this thread is is people complaining about Super Pi. Who gives a crap about a lil gadget that calculates Pi?!

If your that mezmorized about it, go buy a 486 and calculate 32mb and amuse yourself for a week or so at a time.

Wheres the rendoering tests, all out gaming benchmars, 1024x768 scores with games, etc...

or even 3dmark? Lets see something run a REAL benchmark and not an indicator of how well your Intel CPU works.

AMD enthusiasts know AMD doesn't take the crown in super pi, why would we care? If it runs games quickly , VM's, servers, rendering, etc...

Please someone help me to understand this worthless benchmark beyond the realm of stability testing is so touted to inflate someones online ego. It seems every single thread on Phenom just ends in kids crying about super pi scores.

Well said......

Now you guys with the new CPU's (Barchies or Phenoms) give us some 3D action to see how they do......

[zakelwe]

Well said......

Now you guys with the new CPU's (Barchies or Phenoms) give us some 3D action to see how they do......

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[hipro5]

.....and Lobby High.......

[nemrod]

The ignorance about Phenom is just truly amazing. The only thing this thread is is people complaining about Super Pi. Who gives a crap about a lil gadget that calculates Pi?!

Please someone help me to understand this worthless benchmark beyond the realm of stability testing is so touted to inflate someones online ego. It seems every single thread on Phenom just ends in kids crying about super pi scores.

Nobody cares of superpi on this forum
http://www.xtremesystems.com/superpi/

[savantu]

Well said......

Now you guys with the new CPU's (Barchies or Phenoms) give us some 3D action to see how they do......

Pretty lame...



Look at the UT score , CPU score , aaarghhh...terrible.

http://www.expreview.com/news/hard/2...8206d6758.html

[Hornet331]

to bad they havent underclocked the A64.

would have been nice to see how they compare directly on the same platform.(at least for singelcore performance)

[MaSell]

Wheres the rendoering tests, all out gaming benchmars, 1024x768 scores with games, etc...scores.

You will buy $300 cpu to play in 1024x768? $30 sempron/celly will be enough I guess

Who there will buy pc for something other than spi and 3dmark?


We wanna car hi

[DoubleZero]

Pretty lame...



Look at the UT score , CPU score , aaarghhh...terrible.

http://www.expreview.com/news/hard/2...8206d6758.html

Yeah, pretty lame, GP-7000 is 7% slower then Q6600 while having 20% less clock... terrible, terrible

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2717398

[EvlUndrWareNome]

You will buy $300 cpu to play in 1024x768? $30 sempron/celly will be enough I guess

Who there will buy pc for something other than spi and 3dmark?


We wanna car hi

at the lower resolutions like that, namesly 1024x768, your CPU is used more than at high resolutions. FPS at equal speeds with another CPU is an indicator of performance.

[Tuvok-LuR-]

not exactly, cpu is used the same, but gpu is used less, so the difference can be seen better

[EvlUndrWareNome]

Nobody cares of superpi on this forum
http://www.xtremesystems.com/superpi/

Intel has SuperPi,

AMD has the memory bandwidth bench.

Both near useless in real world applications. Well maybe the mem bandwidt could be useful in something.. Maybe tuning RAM?

SPi is useful for stability testing I guess...

That about as useful as either benchmark gets. Thats what I was referring to.

[Epsilon84]

Yeah, pretty lame, GP-7000 is 7% slower then Q6600 while having 20% less clock... terrible, terrible

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2717398

3DMark scores don't not scale linearly with clockspeed. The GPU has a far bigger influence on the score than the CPU.

Guess what a Q6600 scores in PCMark05 CPU? 7713
Phenom X4 2GHz? 5830

7713 / 2400 = 3.21 points per MHz for C2Q.

5830 / 2000 = 2.91 points per MHz for Phenom X4.

Spin that.

[User9498]

Superpi has become an anachronistic piece of software, especially in an age of multi-cored processors. It's more entertainment than science. I currently place almost zero percent real-world stock in the program.

[gallag]

I hope AMD get there act together soon before all benchmarks become useless.

hopefully if k10 kicks ass, performance will be important again?

[Hornet331]

I hope AMD get there act together soon before all benchmarks become useless.

hopefully if k10 kicks ass, performance will be important again?

didnt you know all benches are faaaar away from realworld and only spec suite and sciencemark count?

[RedBull78]

At this point of time I beg to throw away anything I see that shows a phenom in action. I doubt this with my life because Iam more then 1000000000000000000000% sure that nobody happens to have a working AMD 790mobo and phenom cpu.

Just wait until offical benchmarks and judge the results with a peace of mind , darn it.

[Entity_Razer]

ye those bandwidth benchmarks are ALL wrong tbh....

Just wait till official benchies on certified hardware before jumping to conclusions guys, you all realise releasing a product which is SLOWER then its predecesor is just corporate suicide and we know AMD is not stupid so... don't go jumping the gun

[thenrz]

Damn straight, RedBull78. AMD is not breaking the seal on Phenom yet. I guess anyone who wants to see competition on price and performance throughout the next years will hope that Phenom ends up being a bag of chips with some blazing overclocked salsa.

[informal]

ye those bandwidth benchmarks are ALL wrong tbh....

Just wait till official benchies on certified hardware before jumping to conclusions guys, you all realise releasing a product which is SLOWER then its predecesor is just corporate suicide and we know AMD is not stupid so... don't go jumping the gun

Good points(and redbull's too).I can't remember in recent past,the time that AMD "pre-demoed" it's new uarch. and that it performed at the same level as it would when it hit the retail.We remember the early K7 "disastrous" tests with low FPU scores,than it was early K8's that could clock like *** and was later reviewed at Xbitlabs as 2800+ and barely beat K7 at the same clock ,then it was early Anand's AM2 preview that showed only decrease of perf. over s939(at the end ,on average with solid DDR2 RAM, AM2 chips were 3-5% faster than s939 with good DDR1,and rarely slower )

So yes,let's wait for the 19th and judge then.

[railmeat]

All I see nowadays is people linking super pi to how good a cpu is, fact is unless you are seriously sad you won't be playing pi every night for 4 to 6 hrs now will you

AMD are bringing "a platform" not just a cpu that does pi in 8 secs which in reality means very little. if you stand back and see the bigger picture here you will see AMD have changed strategy for a while and really are not that bothered about super pi any more...its just you guys here on XS that are!

Im looking forward to crossfire X on 790 with a Phenom with a chipset that runs really cool and does not even need a heatsink in most cases and hopfully never running superpi on the machine at all

"All I see nowadays is people linking super pi to how good a cpu is, fact is unless you are seriously sad you won't be playing pi every night for 4 to 6 hrs now will you "

rofl,
ya theres not that many gamers here,just benchmarkers.and tony i fully agree with what u said.and belive it or not, alot off ppl only run pi 24\7 to get faster to impress others.thats cool and all to optimize something then set it and enjoy it.but for some it never stops til hardware failure sometimes occurs,but hey its xs right.this site has some of thee best info i ever read and the members here use there skill simply to either 24\7 benchmark or game,some both.but still some really good overclockers bottom line from all around the world.i just cant do the pi\3dmark looping crap 24\7.theres to many games that were developed and made to be played...

superpi-
i love this quick benchie to tell me how my ram\cpu oc will hold up to prime\occt.stabilty is everything,bottom line.super pi on a tube for a 9second blast to impress others prevails for the masses i guess.i myself love to game thats why i build my pcs to handle the newer games.others build there pcs build to merely impress others it seems with benchmark numbers.others game with friends using voip and having a complete blast regardless of age.i have played with guys who wack 10-11 sec in pi vs my 13 sec rig and that doesnt matter.my pc is still blazing fast and i rip skulls apart in any fps game regardless of cpu speeds 2 sec faster in a pi run... bf2,quake(any3,4),hl2,etqw bring it=)

3dmarks-
this simply tells me how many more fps im getting period by overclocking.a purfect tool for any gamer.as a gamer more fps are the goal to make games more enjoyable period,stable tho.some ppl here call 3dmark06 a game,not the case,its a benchmark.a game is something u play interactivly with others vs pushing a button only to see how it runs by itself displaying fps gains,fun yes, a game no.

i have been holding out a long time with my 4th conroe in my setup hoping amd would prevail in the performance gaming dept.seeing some of the numbers with both amdk10 and quad 775,s both at 3gig getting a 2-5fps +- difference.im not pro amd or intel,whatever runs the newer games best.
i wanted a q6600 to replace my e6600 for some time now because crysis is coded to use quads. but i read the amd should probaly do better using l3 cache to fully load balance all 4 cores in the k10 vs intels shared bus.amd has took the time for better things i think in terms of new cutting edge tech(l3cache,4 seperate cores).now to real world ultilize this tech we shall see. i thought amd got more clocks per cycle vs intel,or was that only netburst era?..we shall see as more tests prevail.

1 request tho plz.
3dmark06 (screenies)
sisandra memory and latency test.

[StimulatedBoy]

I hope AMD get there act together soon before all benchmarks become useless.

hopefully if k10 kicks ass, performance will be important again?

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