Xigmatek HDT-S1283, really that good?

[mitra-]

Hi,

I "was" about to buy a Thermalright Ultra-120 extreme, because from the reviews and comments it "was" the best air cooler.

Recently everyone is saying that Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is the new air cooling kink! Some reviews show it winning to Ultra-120 Extreme.

Is this cooler from the unknown Xigmatek (at least for me) that good? Ultra-120 extreme is 2x more expensive than the Xigmatek, and it even doesn't come with a fan.

What do you say? Should I buy the Xigmatek instead? Or, it is overrated and I should go for Ultra-120 extreme?

Thank you all!

[nike]

hey,
the ultra got twice the heatpipes and the xigmatek looks to me like an artic cooling freezer 64 pro with a alu/copperbase; no idea but how the f0ack shall this thing outperform the ultra120ex? i got both lyin aroung here(the ultra 120ex installed and the ac freezer 64 pro somewhere in the flat, around with a 9500led and such things). and i couldnt compare the coolers because i cant remember the settings. i still got my old biossettings for 2.88ghz and i will test the ultra in 32m pi, the freezer was loaded around 60c. so lets see; ill post the resulsts when done with testing. lets pray for a cold winter for all air cooling overclockers. ;D
greetz

[TheBeast1590]

here we got it

Great performance and low price! + a powerfull fan....

[Spawne32]

http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25

[mitra-]

On this review it has almost the same perfornance as Ultra-120 Extreme:
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25


Here they show show it winning:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505409


So, is this the new best buy? Should I save my money and go for the Xigmatek cooler instead of the Ultra-120 extreme?

[Spawne32]

On this review it has almost the same perfornance as Ultra-120 Extreme:
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/viewreviews.php?id=25


Here they show show it winning:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505409


So, is this the new best buy? Should I save my money and go for the Xigmatek cooler instead of the Ultra-120 extreme?

I would not say "the best" but pretty damn close, lets put it that way, if price or availability is the deciding factor, go with whichever suits you best in that area, as they will both be good, you can also use the thermalright LGA775 bolt thru kit on the Xigmatek if need be for added reliability. Just remember that when applying thermal paste on the Xigmatek, the usual grain of rice sized dot in the center does NOT work, as it will not spread out properly due to the unusual quality's of the base.

[mitra-]

OCZ Vendetta seems like a copy of this Xigmatek. Could it be better than the Xigmatek, or will be just about the same thing?




Can I use 120mm fans on the Xigmatek cooler? Is the fan bundled with the cooler any good?

Thanks for the help!

[roadie]

I was thinking of the Xigmatek but, as it doesn't affix by a bolt through method, it would be useless for a naked AM2 chip. Also, it loses more effectiveness at low fan speeds, which I am interested in.

[Spawne32]

OCZ Vendetta seems like a copy of this Xigmatek. Could it be better than the Xigmatek, or will be just about the same thing?




Can I use 120mm fans on the Xigmatek cooler? Is the fan bundled with the cooler any good?

Thanks for the help!

No your looking at the wrong one, the OCZ Vendetta is copied from the HDT-S983, which performs worse then the one you have listed in your thread title.

[Spawne32]

I was thinking of the Xigmatek but, as it doesn't affix by a bolt through method, it would be useless for a naked AM2 chip. Also, it loses more effectiveness at low fan speeds, which I am interested in.

Yeh definitely not for a naked chip, the contact area would only be across one heatpipe with the naked AM2 chip.

[Spawne32]

[mitra-]

Yeh definitely not for a naked chip, the contact area would only be across one heatpipe with the naked AM2 chip.

I have a E6600 and a P5W-DH, will I have any problem, or is it ok?

The fan is any good or should I buy a Scythe S-Flex?

[Spawne32]

I have a E6600 and a P5W-DH, will I have any problem, or is it ok?

The fan is any good or should I buy a Scythe S-Flex?

your E6600 should be fine, when we say naked, we are saying that the IHS has been removed (that would be the silver thing on the top of the CPU), and i found the fan to be adequite so i dont see any change necessary. But make sure your getting the S1283, the S983 did not perform so well, i dont have the results of that smaller version released yet, but i can tell you that its not nearly as high up on the list as the S1283. The S983 is also the similar design of the OCZ Vendetta... so thats all i have to say about that

[Start]

Well pretty much most high end air cooler will relatively perform the same, but until you really kick up the overclock and kick up the voltage will will the dust clear and you will see who the real victor is.

[Nazu]

Maybe I will buy this to replace Tuniq.

[mitra-]

Well pretty much most high end air cooler will relatively perform the same, but until you really kick up the overclock and kick up the voltage will will the dust clear and you will see who the real victor is.

That's a nice point.

Spawne32 (or anyone), can you say something about this? In your "Air Cooling Roundup" you've tested at default speed. But how these two coolers perform with some OC?

This is important because I want to do some OC to my E6600

[Spawne32]

That's a nice point.

Spawne32 (or anyone), can you say something about this? In your "Air Cooling Roundup" you've tested at default speed. But how these two coolers perform with some OC?

This is important because I want to do some OC to my E6600

Unfortunately i dont have those results yet ;-) but, as voltage increases you can expect perform to drop with any heatsink, im gona try to roll out those numbers with the overclocked settings coming up this week for everyone, im just tryin to finish up these last few heatsinks i got in, i got 3 more coming in from thermaltake as we speak but they wont be here till tuesday.

[Nazu]

Unfortunately i dont have those results yet ;-) but, as voltage increases you can expect perform to drop with any heatsink, im gona try to roll out those numbers with the overclocked settings coming up this week for everyone, im just tryin to finish up these last few heatsinks i got in, i got 3 more coming in from thermaltake as we speak but they wont be here till tuesday.

Do you do all of your tests with the quad? Any chance of getting numbers with a dualcore cpu ?

[Spawne32]

Do you do all of your tests with the quad? Any chance of getting numbers with a dualcore cpu ?

I had an E4500, i wound up just getting rid of it and buying the quad core outright, during the first 2 weeks of testing, i came to find that the results were completely scalable, and the ones that performed good on the quad core, performed even better on the dual core. So for dual core performance just use the same chart, you can expect excellent results either way around if you choose a good performer from that chart. When the next phase of overclocking results are posted, you will be able to see which heatsinks fall behind, some heatsinks max out at a certain point for being about to dissipate heat. The Ultra ChillTEC for instance, will be limited by the TEC itself. As the CPU gets hotter, so will the hot side of the tec, and because the air cooler mounted to that side is pretty much already at its thermal limit, its performance will decrease faster.

[Nazu]

I was thinking about the optimal thermalcompound spreading method for the Xigmatek cooler and this came to my mind: Spreading a line of thermalcompound over every heatpipe on the heatsink itself. IMO that would ensure a perfect distribution of thermalcompound over the heatsink and cpu. What do you guys think?

[Spawne32]

I was thinking about the optimal thermalcompound spreading method for the Xigmatek cooler and this came to my mind: Spreading a line of thermalcompound over every heatpipe on the heatsink itself. IMO that would ensure a perfect distribution of thermalcompound over the heatsink and cpu. What do you guys think?

Not necessarily, i did try that, and on most standard base style heatsinks, it was far too much, the thermal paste just wound up going right over the edge of the IHS, or actually inhibiting the transfer of heat by a degree or 2.

[Nazu]

Ok So the method you used is the best (or atleast sufficient).

[Spawne32]

Ok So the method you used is the best (or atleast sufficient).

Basically, exactly as the arctic silver ceramique instructions stated, when the xigmatek failed to follow that rule, i had to look for the alternative, and the line method provided the best contact You gotta understand that the base isnt just a flat surface, the thermal paste is filling the cracks and spaces inbetween the heatpipes also, so you have to account for that.

[Nazu]

Would this be useful with the HDT-S1283? I suppose it's compatible cos the cooler uses the same mounting system as the boxed one. Atleast it would make the mounting more sturdier and prevent the mobo from bending.

[Spawne32]

Would this be useful with the HDT-S1283? I suppose it's compatible cos the cooler uses the same mounting system as the boxed one. Atleast it would make the mounting more sturdier and prevent the mobo from bending.

Yes, it will work great