These are some pictures from a rig owned by a person on Crysis-Online. I haven't been able to find a lot of pictures of a Bigwater system eating itself, so here's some for everyone to able to look at.
Now, the only thing I haven't been able to help him out on is figuring out what the radiator interior is made of. Anybody happen to know?
Edit:
Not my pictures, I'll re-size them and make them easy to see from home, once I have access to Photoshop and web hosting.
Copper tubes with alu fins.
What you got is corrosion from the alu flow meter, and your copper blocks.
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Its my fault.. and no im not sorry about it either.[12:37] skinnee: quit helping me procrastinate block reviews, you asshat. :p
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no i think those are from the liquid used to stop corrosion between AL and Cu
like the swiftech HyderX
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I love the so-called "flow meter" (so-called because it doesn't measure a sausage).
Restriction added and nothing to show for in return... Yet another great idea
oxidization. Now you understand why everyone here will say...
THERMALTAKE SUCKS!!!
1. i dont think he was using hydrx.
2. thermaltake comes with its own coolant, which i think he was using.
3. he was mixing copper and that looks really a lot like what alu looks like when its eatten. Look at sharka's post.
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+ 1Originally Posted by cadaveca
I <3 Danger Den myself. Used Koolance (early products), used Thermaltake. Never again. DD blocks NEVER have let me down in several builds. I will admit there are others I have not tried (EK, Swiftech) tho I have heard good things about them. If you find something that works well for you, stick with it.
Last edited by DarthBeavis; 06-12-2007 at 11:26 AM.
i've got the Tt 745 cooling the ladies computer, keeping an overclocker 3800 at low 30s idle, mid 40s loaded, cleaned it out the other day, nothing wrong there, no corrosion so yay for us
after the PSU i'm planning on watercooling the ball bearings in the fans...
ya i know and that is why i said like hydrx , since i don't know the name that thermatake uses for its liquid
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Only caught this thread as it was linked in another. Sorry to hear that. Does Thermaltake offer any sort of warranty/guarantee on this product? How long has it been since he's purchased the product?
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CPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Swiftech GTZ -> Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
GPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> (Koolance VID-NX295 FC block) ->Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
Chipset Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Alphacool Silentstar Dual HD waterblock enclosure -> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 MOSFET-> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 NB -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Scythe S-Flex G)
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Multiple people on Newegg reviews have suggested that they have serious corrosion issues when using the Thermaltake solution that is included in the kit. When using better fluids, the problems goes away.
That's probably true, but then again, newegg reviewers aren't exactly the most tech savvy.
with that sort of corrosion, probably been a while.
Tt Flowmeter with their pump is a joke...
Proves the point where many believe manufacturers are cutting corners w/ alu based products to milk the market when the original product goes bad.
Sad but true. However, these sort of people make up the majority of all newcomers to the WC'ing hobby. Thermaltake and fellow alu using companies should be taking more action or possibly a different course of action to prevent this sort of stuff from happening, ie going full copper.That's probably true, but then again, newegg reviewers aren't exactly the most tech savvy.
I feel sorry for this guy as a quick scan of current prices put this kit around $150-$250.
MM Extended U2-UFO CYO (Duality front, Standard back, Horizontal Mobo brace) Anodized Black || eVGA X58 || Intel i7 920 || 6 GB Corsair Dominator PC3-12800|| eVGA 295GTX || Asus Xonar Essence STX || VisionTek 650 TV Tuner || 1 300GB WD Velociraptor || 1TB WD's Black Ed. || LG 22X DVD-Writer || Lite-On 20x DVD-Writer || Corsair CMPSU-1000HX PSU
CPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Swiftech GTZ -> Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
GPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> (Koolance VID-NX295 FC block) ->Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
Chipset Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Alphacool Silentstar Dual HD waterblock enclosure -> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 MOSFET-> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 NB -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Scythe S-Flex G)
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Nah. They will go for the standard business practice. Give an incentive to the marketing people and leave things as they are.
Why fix it, when you can increase the bonuses of the marketing department instead?
Like a play from the Apple marketing playbook.
MM Extended U2-UFO CYO (Duality front, Standard back, Horizontal Mobo brace) Anodized Black || eVGA X58 || Intel i7 920 || 6 GB Corsair Dominator PC3-12800|| eVGA 295GTX || Asus Xonar Essence STX || VisionTek 650 TV Tuner || 1 300GB WD Velociraptor || 1TB WD's Black Ed. || LG 22X DVD-Writer || Lite-On 20x DVD-Writer || Corsair CMPSU-1000HX PSU
CPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Swiftech GTZ -> Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
GPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> (Koolance VID-NX295 FC block) ->Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
Chipset Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Alphacool Silentstar Dual HD waterblock enclosure -> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 MOSFET-> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 NB -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Scythe S-Flex G)
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haha so true
It still sucks arse. You should pull it out NOW!!!!!!!
Their cpu blocks suck big time. I had two of them crack and leak. Thermaltake H20 cooling sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks. Not even good for an absolute n00b. They should just stop making kits.
Them and everyone else using alu radiators.
MM Extended U2-UFO CYO (Duality front, Standard back, Horizontal Mobo brace) Anodized Black || eVGA X58 || Intel i7 920 || 6 GB Corsair Dominator PC3-12800|| eVGA 295GTX || Asus Xonar Essence STX || VisionTek 650 TV Tuner || 1 300GB WD Velociraptor || 1TB WD's Black Ed. || LG 22X DVD-Writer || Lite-On 20x DVD-Writer || Corsair CMPSU-1000HX PSU
CPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Swiftech GTZ -> Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
GPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> (Koolance VID-NX295 FC block) ->Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
Chipset Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Alphacool Silentstar Dual HD waterblock enclosure -> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 MOSFET-> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 NB -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Scythe S-Flex G)
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how does it suck? the one in my GFs running my dualCore overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3GHz, idle 29/32 load 45/50. yes it's not brilliant, but it works. but i never used the liquid from Tt. the block is in perfect shape.
bunch of drama queens
after the PSU i'm planning on watercooling the ball bearings in the fans...
For $150-250, most of us would expect it to work well, not just be functional. However, I ask you to take a step back and ask yourself, would this be the ideal setup within that price range? If not, then there's logically something wrong with it that needs to be addressed.
MM Extended U2-UFO CYO (Duality front, Standard back, Horizontal Mobo brace) Anodized Black || eVGA X58 || Intel i7 920 || 6 GB Corsair Dominator PC3-12800|| eVGA 295GTX || Asus Xonar Essence STX || VisionTek 650 TV Tuner || 1 300GB WD Velociraptor || 1TB WD's Black Ed. || LG 22X DVD-Writer || Lite-On 20x DVD-Writer || Corsair CMPSU-1000HX PSU
CPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Swiftech GTZ -> Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
GPU Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> (Koolance VID-NX295 FC block) ->Thermochill PA120.3 (Push: 3 Scythe S-Flex G)
Chipset Loop: DDC-2 w/ XSPC Reservoir Top -> Alphacool Silentstar Dual HD waterblock enclosure -> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 MOSFET-> Bitspower Black Freezer eVGA x58 NB -> Thermochill PA120.2 (Pull: 2 Scythe S-Flex G)
2 x Dell 2408FPW LCD || Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 || Logitech G9 Mouse || Logitech G15 LCD Keyboard || Logitech Quickcam Ultravision || Sennheiser Headphones
My friend had the older Bigwater. The cpu block's cover cracked and leaked water on his mobo and videocard. Both diedHe didn't tighten the plexi cover himself so it was probably a crappy quality plexi or something. That and the fact that there's a lot of people who have bought the Bigwater and the pump has died or some other part has failed. Personally I wouldn't recommend TT watercooling stuff to anybody.
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so are you guys saying that the Thermaltake Coolant did this ? hmm
I have couple spare bottles and was going to use it in my next loop (not TT mind you)
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haha yummy Alien attack :P I know TT Watercooling is the worst ive ever seen
i probably wouldn't recommend Tt to anyone either, nor any other pre-made kit, it's just as easy to build a HQ custom kit, for a bit more moneyMy friend had the older Bigwater. The cpu block's cover cracked and leaked water on his mobo and videocard. Both died
after the PSU i'm planning on watercooling the ball bearings in the fans...
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