New WR Cas 3? || Asus P5B Non-Deluxe + Team XTreem PC6400 4-4-4-10 D9GMH @2.8 Volt

[Maarten-NForce]

When did I say anything about '24/7 stability?' I questioned the integrity of the record that he's claiming. A first time poster who's 15 years old claiming to have the Cas 3 WR when it's the easiest thing to fake will make any non-gullible person skeptical. It's been tried before on here several times and it's a known glitch in the program. Until a well trusted member on here verifies that this is legit or a video showing this speed from boot most people, including myself are going to really question it.

Sounds like you think that this is my first overclock? Sounds like you think I've made about 10 posts? Allright, think that it's fake if you're happy with it, I know better.
Or maybe just a bit jealous?

A bit more then 10 isn't it?

[Mi©hel]

Maarten-NForce sure has some skills, no doubt about that

(en zet ff een spatie erbij in je sig, het staat zo raar, die eerste regel )

[Maarten-NForce]

Thanks! Must be the Tweakers-spirit

(goed opgemerkt, had 't zelf niet gezien )

[Hutch]

You're a fake. Do you really think I'm Jealous of a little cheater who's daddy buys him his computer parts? I think not. Prove that this is legit, because it's pretty much physically impossible with that voltage. You did not boot with Cas 3, just admit it and maybe gain some respect back.

Vähäinen määrä huijaaminen asento huora.

[ziddey]

keep your panties on. I don't think that's all too impossible to achieve. I've managed to boot into windows with 355fsb 2:3 for 533 at cas3 with 2.55v (dmm measured) with a single stick of d9gkx on my p5b vanilla (2.45v resulted in 2.55v actual). That said, I know that scaling may seem exponential at that point, so you'd say it's a whole lot harder to go from 533 to his numbers, but still. I wasn't able to pass even 1m spi or anything, but still. I know you'll probably say I'm full of it too since I didn't take any snapshots. I probably could have done so stably enough, but I didn't think it was anything impressive if someone like me could do it, especially with the effort I put in. Hell, I might have even been able to go higher since I just tried that number to see 533ddr2. I don't have the p5b anymore, but maybe I'll try doing the same again on my dfi board, so I can cap a screenie for you

[Hutch]

If he can duplicate it on the P35 that he has coming, then I will give him credit. Until then, I will remain very skeptical.

[Mi©hel]

If he can duplicate it on the P35 that he has coming, then I will give him credit. Until then, I will remain very skeptical.

So you're saying the fact that he has done it on P965 makes 552MHz cas 3 impossible?

Facts
- He has a CPU-z validation of 552MHz cas 3
- He has a succesfully completed SPi-1M run on cas 3 552MHz
- No one has ever done that before, so it's a WR

There isn't a program that reads his vDimm in his screenshot.
So what? If K|ngp|n says he runs his 8800Ultra's in SLI on 1.9V on his GPU core, you also believe him, right?
I personally think you're just bashing Maarten-NForce because he's new on XS.
Go and learn Dutch, visit this forum and just see how wrong you were.

[BenchZowner]

So you're saying the fact that he has done it on P965 makes 552MHz cas 3 impossible?

No, CAS 3 is possible on P965 ofcourse.
But...faking tCL 3 with P965 + memset or direct reg's write is easy.

Facts
- He has a CPU-z validation of 552MHz cas 3
- He has a succesfully completed SPi-1M run on cas 3 552MHz
- No one has ever done that before, so it's a WR

- What I said about P965 & CAS 3 via memset
- Same

There isn't a program that reads his vDimm in his screenshot.

Well, there's a MM/DMM and a digital camera

I personally think you're just bashing Maarten-NForce because he's new on XS.

Bashing a member because he's new doesn't happen here, and if somebody try doing so his post will get deleted/edited & he'll receive a warning at least.

p.s. Don't try 'offending' me saying "oh, you're with his side or the others", I'm with nobody

[Yoxxy]

would be nice to see a cas 3 pi1m and a cas 4 pi1m like I did.

I am not saying it is not possible, but that is not a high bin ram and 2.8v is incredibly weak for that speed.

Would be nice to see DMM + pi1m @ cas 4 and pi1m @ cas 3.

[Gautam]

I suppose its possible that a 512 stick would clock easier...but still, that's asking a lot out of 2.8v. The best I know of anyone doing at such voltage is ozzimark...he did a suicide at 530 3-4-3. A 1M bench at 552 I suppose is barely within the realm of possibility, but I echo the general response in this thread and say that some extra proof should be included with such an achievement. Nothing against the OP in the slightest, just that such claims should have some concrete backup regardless of who's posting.

Yoxxy's suggestion is a very good one. CAS 3 pi results are untouchable by CAS 4 at the same speeds.

[Spacemaster]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=153393

[Maarten-NForce]

All right, as soon as possible I will make a SPI 1M screen at C4 and C3.
And thanks Michel

[ziddey]

Good luck.

And about p35 and not having the ability to fake cas3. It will still be possible. Most of us won't stoop to that level to figure out how to change the registers, but I'm sure someone will. It's already been tested to be possible.

[Hutch]

The idea of the Cas 3 and Cas 4 spi SS's is too easily faked by sub timings.

"Facts
- He has a CPU-z validation of 552MHz cas 3
- He has a succesfully completed SPi-1M run on cas 3 552MHz
- No one has ever done that before, so it's a WR"

Let me add my own facts that you negated;

-P965 Cas 3 can be faked by using memset.
-There is no proof that it isn't faked.
-Several new members have tried this already, so no, it's no WR.
-Your link to that dutch forum doesn't show us any proof for this record.

[Astri]

Dual channel Team PC2-8000
Asus P5b dlx

3-4-3-5 dual channel DDR2-1090 @ 2.45v (bios setting)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=196947

[jmax_oc]

Lol stop stop stop.
2.45V and 545MHz CAS3 can't be possible.

[Astri]

I used memset to change timings. So ...i guess the cas is 4? I didnt know there was such "cheating" before Hutch's post.

[Viss]

Its the cas you booted with from bios.

[Hutch]

Lol stop stop stop.
2.45V and 545MHz CAS3 can't be possible.

LOL I KNOW! Even 2.8V 550mhz cas 3 with Team's lowest binned D9 sticks is absurd. The fact that he won't admit to either not knowing that you can't change cas in windows or admitting that he made a mistake should fall under the faking a record rule (banning from forums.)

I have a SS somewhere of doing 500mhz 3-5-3-8 1.89V somewhere on this HD... LOL

[MexxT]

LOL I KNOW! Even 2.8V 550mhz cas 3 with Team's lowest binned D9 sticks is absurd. The fact that he won't admit to either not knowing that you can't change cas in windows or admitting that he made a mistake should fall under the faking a record rule (banning from forums.)

I have a SS somewhere of doing 500mhz 3-5-3-8 1.89V somewhere on this HD... LOL

Omfg, how skeptical can you be

I am from the same dutch forum, and the record is real. At the dutch forum he told us he would try to record the WR on video, becouse 'some pepole' at this forum would't beleave him.
So we shall see.

I'm confident te WR is NOT faked.
Or are you jealouse or something ?

I am 17 years old, and when I was 16 I bought my fist system. Saved €1000 for the components, and bulded it! So why cant a 15 jear old boy do the same thing?

[GSte]

Excuse my ignorance, but why does this Team RAM the OP used have those strange SPD timings, when it's advertised as PC6400 4-4-4-10? Surely if it's capable of 3-4-3-9 as shown in the SPD, they'd sell it as such?

[F1N3ST]

This is not meant for 24/7 stable, 4-4-4-10 is.

[ziddey]

probably reprogrammed

[Hutch]

Still no further proof. Why can't you just admit you made a mistake? The reason why you needed such high vdimm was because of the TRP being 3. Your real cas is either 4 or 5. We all know that you used memset to change the Cas in windows. It's been more than a week and you still haven't showed any proof that your results were legitimate.

[GSte]

probably reprogrammed

How can you do that, and is there any point?