ASUS P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3

[freeze888]

Hi,

I just completed my build with the following parts on my sig and overclocked it to 3.2 GHz (400x8). I'm using prime92v2 to stress test my system (small FFT) and coretemp is reading my toasty chip at:
Core#0: 82 C
Core#1: 82 C
Core#2: 80 C
Core#3: 80 C

Today is a pretty hot day so my room temp is at 28 C. I just want to know if these temp are too high for everyday use (game, watch / encode movies, etc).

Thanks

[Speederlander]

Hi,

I just completed my build with the following parts on my sig and overclocked it to 3.2 GHz (400x8). I'm using prime92v2 to stress test my system (small FFT) and coretemp is reading my toasty chip at:
Core#0: 82 C
Core#1: 82 C
Core#2: 80 C
Core#3: 80 C

Today is a pretty hot day so my room temp is at 28 C. I just want to know if these temp are too high for everyday use (game, watch / encode movies, etc).

Thanks

Ultra extreme and those temps? You either have a bad heatsink(very unlikely) or it's installed wrong, or you have terrible case airflow, or you have a concave IHS or heatsink base.

[Speederlander]

Is it really worth it to even bother setting up a RAID0 array on two 80 gig drives? The benefits of RAID0 to begin with are pretty limited and minute in everyday performance. You don't start seeing the benefits of RAID0 until you start working with transferring large files. I wouldn't even fool with RAID unless I was doing a RAID5 array for the mirroring + performance.

Not worth it, especially for gaming and day to day.

[davexl]

Hi,

I just completed my build with the following parts on my sig and overclocked it to 3.2 GHz (400x8). I'm using prime92v2 to stress test my system (small FFT) and coretemp is reading my toasty chip at:
Core#0: 82 C
Core#1: 82 C
Core#2: 80 C
Core#3: 80 C

Today is a pretty hot day so my room temp is at 28 C. I just want to know if these temp are too high for everyday use (game, watch / encode movies, etc).

Thanks

What voltage?

Firstly 82C is a bit high for everyday use, but the good news is that very few everyday programs come close to the heat levels of low fft Prime95.

Is your room normally this hot? I develop 2 overclocks - a balls to the wall one for winter, and a milder one for summer.

Just for reference, my Ultra-120 Extreme on a Q6600 at 1.5250v BIOS, damper on, puts out 75C coretemp Prime95 8k small fft at about 1.48v real, at 22C room temp. With two mild fans in push-pull. Phew.

[freeze888]

Ultra extreme and those temps? You either have a bad heatsink(very unlikely) or it's installed wrong, or you have terrible case airflow, or you have a concave IHS or heatsink base.

Well I installed the heatsink parallel to the PCIE slot so the fan is pushing the hot air up. I don't know if it's better to install it perpendicularly. I replaced all my stock case fans with S-Flex SFF21F and added an extra fan at the middle where the HD cage is so my airflow should be good.

What voltage?

Firstly 82C is a bit high for everyday use, but the good news is that very few everyday programs come close to the heat levels of low fft Prime95.

Is your room normally this hot? I develop 2 overclocks - a balls to the wall one for winter, and a milder one for summer.

Just for reference, my Ultra-120 Extreme on a Q6600 at 1.5250v BIOS, damper on, puts out 75C coretemp Prime95 8k small fft at about 1.48v real, at 22C room temp. With two mild fans in push-pull. Phew.

My room is normally not this hot, it's just today's weather. My vcore is set at 1.3625v at bios, 1.3200v at load and damper is on as well. May I ask what orientation is your heatsink facing since we have the same heatsink. Also what thermal paste are you using? I'm using AS5 and to be honest I don't know if I am putting too much or not enough. I followed the instructions on their website and applied a horizontal line of AS5.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

[426hemi]

Ok, this is strange......I took my 2 80gig drives and hooked them up to my Abit Quad GT and created a raid 0 array. Then I hooked them up to my Asus board and installed xp pro. All seems to be going well. I was able to do a disk defrag and a norton internet security full system scan. Both of these would cause a blue screen reboot before. This leads me to believe the raid issues are a bios problem and not a problem with the board 'cos the intel matrix manager that creates the array is in the bios isn't it? If this is the case someone needs to let Asus know so they can fix the bios for us! I am going to let the system run over the weekend because my rma number is still good for 10 days. Sure hope I don't have any more errors! The board I have now does my current settings with all voltages except for vdimm & vcore set to auto and there is 0.000v drop at 100% load at 1.328v

[Mr Footlong]

Not worth it, especially for gaming and day to day.

I do a fair bit more than 'gaming'.

Hemi, I have my P5W64 still, but I really don't know is I can be bothered to try what you tried as I am just fed up of it all lol. I am taking the afternoon off work to try and sort this out again as I don't want to waste the weekend getting more annoyed .

[Speederlander]

I do a fair bit more than 'gaming'.

....which is why I said "and day to day"...and in any event, unless you are moving huge files or are into posting hard drive benchmarks or just want to say you have it and want to spend more cash, RAID 0 is a waste.

[Mr Footlong]

Why is it a waste? Some hard drives can be bought for absolute peanuts and as long as you have a half decent board, gives you a nice performance improvement. As long as you have another way of holding your important data, I see no reason not to stripe with prices the way they are for some drives.

Video encoding is about the most intensive thing that I do with mine but even if I didn't, I wouldn't hesitate to run RAID0.

[safan80]

I was doing a RAID5 array for the mirroring + performance.

raid 10 or 0+1 is mirroring + striping (performance). Raid 5 is striping with parity (not mirroring) it has good read performance but bad write performance.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Yey, well that was a waste of time........... Got the card today and updated to the latest firmware. Installed in the black pci-e slot. Plugged all 4 drives into it, fired up and went into the bios to set the intel controller back to IDE with just the dvd plugged in 1. saved changes and rebooted. Got a blank screen after the bios loaded, pressed reset button and got unsupported 3ware card, consult your pc bios people basically. Yey. pulled all power to the machine and then booted from cold. got in to the 3ware bios and created a 3 drive array, missing out the drive the intel controller flagged, just in case, as it didn't need a reboot after this it loaded the xp setup. Driver installed and I had my partitions to choose. Went to format it and either using quick or normal format I got cannot format errors, the disk may be damaged.

So, I had a board that overclocked brilliantly but crapped out left, right and centre with quad RAID, threw £230 at it and got a board that can't run a common raid controller properly and even when using official drivers cannot run XP setup. I tested this card at work in an altos server that I used to update the firmware, it had ZERO problems and could format partitions just fine.

The overclocking abilities of this board are excellent, but I really, really, really don't like it at all now.

don't blame the P5K or its bios so much...3Ware is probably not keeping up with the technology....Areca Raid cards warn customers to check their compatibility list to make sure their cards will work on a certain board...of course, Areca does a poor job of updating their list!

i would try switching your video card to the 4x (black slot) and then move the 3Ware card to the 16x lane slot to see if that makes 3Ware card work correctly.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Ok, this is strange......I took my 2 80gig drives and hooked them up to my Abit Quad GT and created a raid 0 array. Then I hooked them up to my Asus board and installed xp pro. All seems to be going well. I was able to do a disk defrag and a norton internet security full system scan. Both of these would cause a blue screen reboot before. This leads me to believe the raid issues are a bios problem and not a problem with the board 'cos the intel matrix manager that creates the array is in the bios isn't it? If this is the case someone needs to let Asus know so they can fix the bios for us! I am going to let the system run over the weekend because my rma number is still good for 10 days. Sure hope I don't have any more errors! The board I have now does my current settings with all voltages except for vdimm & vcore set to auto and there is 0.000v drop at 100% load at 1.328v

isn't the Intel Matrix Storage Manager a separate program that is installed in Windows?...i believe i tried that on my Abit QuadGT board and it gave me all sorts of problems with freezing windows...once uninstalled, everything was operating smoothly.

[Emmett]

Hey all,

I am coming from a p5w-dh to this p5k deluxe, I was running 4 gigabyte I-Ram's on it no problem. So i rip apart the watercooling, install the p5k, redo
the water loop, hook up just a WD 160 gig SATA to controller, and the bios will not see it? So I messed around with different ports, add the I-ram's and finally
get it to see the 4 i-rams and the WD drive, get into windows, get a crash, reboot, then ALL the drives are not detected again.. Anyone get this working?
is a bios gonna fix this? Also tried OC my E6600. got to 10x414 on the p5w
but it seems like I am stuck on the same on the p5k. I can get 3.9gig on the p5k, but's it's not orthos stable, I get an instant error..

Does anyone have enable sata boot rom selection in the bios? the manual
mentions it, but i do not have it. also I am never see the raid matrix
controller during post.

Board came with bios 123 I updated to 311.


Should I RMA this thing?

BTW I can not use a raid card because they mostly all need the drives to have smart enabled, and the i-ram's do not support smart.

Any help please? thanks..

Emmett

[Mr Footlong]

don't blame the P5K or its bios so much...3Ware is probably not keeping up with the technology....Areca Raid cards warn customers to check their compatibility list to make sure their cards will work on a certain board...of course, Areca does a poor job of updating their list!

i would try switching your video card to the 4x (black slot) and then move the 3Ware card to the 16x lane slot to see if that makes 3Ware card work correctly.

Dude, thanks but the board itself isn't up to scratch, simple as (which I take no pleasure in saying). I have owned and used a lot of 3ware cards in the past and the compatability has been very good. On the other hand I can't remember the last thing that I plugged in to the 'universal PCI-E' slot on any Asus board working well at all. I am far, far, far from being a noob with this stuff, I switch off everything in the bios that I don't use, etc and pay attention to all the basics as well as the advanced tweaking.

I just took the afternoon off work to do one last set of changes 'just in case'. Fitted a new drive in place of the suspect one, removed the 3ware card and went back o give the onboard sata one last chance. Created another quad drive stripe, installed xp, got the usual paused startup a couple of times (as mentioned on here from others, xp boot screen just sits faded for 30-40 secs before coming up properly and booting). Got my lan drivers in went to install the X-Fi, which has been a good indication on this board of stability, regardless of which pci slot chosen. Got to 6% on the install, decided to poll the sata dvd drive for about 5 minutes then blue screened. At this point I was just laughing at this awful board. Ran it again for the hell of it and it blue screened within about 5 seconds of getting to 1%.

I cannot begin to tell you just how glad that I have orderded a rev A1 EVGA 680i board now as it ain't perfect, but it's mature and doesn't issue behavior like this. I am gutted as I have bought enough Asus boards to qualify for free shares in the company and normally love their boards, but I have NEVER come across one as rough as this before. It won't stop me from buying Asus boards again, but I am steering clear of P35 for the forseeable, shame as the overclocking was top notch . I am going to keep my 3ware card and see how it goes on the 680i.

[JayG30]

Why is it a waste? Some hard drives can be bought for absolute peanuts and as long as you have a half decent board, gives you a nice performance improvement. As long as you have another way of holding your important data, I see no reason not to stripe with prices the way they are for some drives.

Video encoding is about the most intensive thing that I do with mine but even if I didn't, I wouldn't hesitate to run RAID0.

This might be of interest to you.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles?&id=29
Basically, unless you have the money for the good stuff (ie. RAID controllers) and the real actual need for it then your just adding unneccesary complexity to your system at little to no benefit.

I have to say my experiences over the years echos that of this article.

[zbogorgon]

I can't get setfsb to work with this mobo, am I missing sth ?

[RealTelstar]

I can't get setfsb to work with this mobo, am I missing sth ?

Just today he released a new version that support P5k
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

[Ace-a-Rue]

This might be of interest to you.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles?&id=29
Basically, unless you have the money for the good stuff (ie. RAID controllers) and the real actual need for it then your just adding unneccesary complexity to your system at little to no benefit.

I have to say my experiences over the years echos that of this article.

good article!...his article really talks about an inexperienced user who might not understand the inner workings of Raid...i've been doing raid for years...i now have an expensive raid card...performance is even better...it is snappier opening explorer or anything else over a single drive...the only exception to that is using a single Raptor drive...then, it is comparable in speed.

the biggest difference i see with raid over a single drive is when i install Vista Ultimate...i am done with the installation in about 12-15 minutes.

[Speederlander]

Anyone finding that in an overclocked P5K Dlx, turning on core temp .95 WHILE prime95 is running crashes their comp? I have a quad, so that may factor as well...

[freeze888]

Anyone finding that in an overclocked P5K Dlx, turning on core temp .95 WHILE prime95 is running crashes their comp? I have a quad, so that may factor as well...

I think version 0.95 has a problem with p5k deluxe. It crashes for me as well even when I'm on stock. I now use version 0.94 and it's happy.

[orion23]

I think version 0.95 has a problem with p5k deluxe. It crashes for me as well even when I'm on stock. I now use version 0.94 and it's happy.

I use CoreTemp .95 / Vista Ultimate and have no problems!

[davexl]

Anyone finding that in an overclocked P5K Dlx, turning on core temp .95 WHILE prime95 is running crashes their comp? I have a quad, so that may factor as well...

Funny you should say that - it has happened to me 3 times, once right on startup, and twice within several minutes of opening. Not sure if coretemp was the problem, I stopped using it just in case, as systool reads the same DTS and gives me the data with no risk.

Anyway, I have found some 48Hr stable overclocks since, so systool can be said to be a foolproof way of reading coretemp.

Now that I think of it, I wonder if two tools reading the the same sensor cause conflicts...

ps_ systool latest version claims to be updated for P5k, but it crashes on startup every time, I am sticking with next last build.

[Mr Footlong]

Anyone finding that in an overclocked P5K Dlx, turning on core temp .95 WHILE prime95 is running crashes their comp? I have a quad, so that may factor as well...

I mentioned this a page or 2 back. 0.95 blue screened my P5W64 too so it isn't limited to the P35 chipset. By the sounds of it use 0.94 on xp, 0.95 on vista perhaps?

[Leeghoofd]

yep 0.95 bluescreens and revoots my pc , cost me hours of wasted time because I though the 3.8 overclock wasn't stable lol....

Damn Forcom where's my P5K Dlx

[Speederlander]

yep 0.95 bluescreens and revoots my pc , cost me hours of wasted time because I though the 3.8 overclock wasn't stable lol....

Same. I have been back and forth for days thinking different settings were unstable but it was bloody coretemp all along.