Commando Results by Tony and Andre (and others...)

[JoeBar]

No, I do not have that much patience at ALL!!!

Don't you think if that was available I would have done it!? Oh wait! How would you know, your not using an Asus Commando are you!?

Just use the num pad. I'm not using Commando, but been familiar with AMI bios...

[oqvist]

how hot do the bridges and mosfet run?

I have a mcw60 northbridge cooler I could use but then that would leave the mosfets and southbridge without cooling... Would I gain much from watercooling the northbridge? how hot do the mosfets run? I am not planning on going crazy on voltage max 1,55 on the CPU and reasonably voltages on the northbridge and RAM.

the big problem would be the southbridge perhaps since I have a big 8800 GTX. I do want to keep cost at a minimum. Don´t feel like buying watercooling kits just for this single mainboard for 100s of bucks but if there is a real gain I would want to use my mcw60 since I already got it of course.

[Disaster_Master]

0902 bios still cant boot "@1200 mhz on my DOMINATOR 8500 c5d with QX6700 and Vista.

I use the 803 bios and i have the same ram as u and i need 2.3V to boot in windows xp but it is not stable

[tonys1980]

Just a few quick questions with the VDroop Pencil Mod:

1. How hard etc do you press when drawing the line etc??? or is it more of a - colour in / cake it on type action??
I've got a 3B pencil and don't want to stuff anything up! Im guessing i'll just go over it 3 or 4 times & that'll do???

2. When a new BIOS comes out (as the Beta 902 just has) - do you remove the Pencil mod and then update? or leave it??? Reason being - the Vdroop could have been fixed with a new bios release and if the pencil mod is still onboard - could it be too much????

Thanks in advance!!!

[Supershanks]

ccl2006
kindly share with us your OC'ing/stability issues if there are any. tia.

Have none but i'm not running crazy just a pedestrian 385x9@4:5 as u see, more important atm to have a goood 24/7 oc. Onlly real sticking point atm is heat max temp in orthos peaks around 63C. Am planning to

splash

out on w/cooling soon if i can find some nice pps on e-bay to buy me old bits.

@oqvist
It's not the greatest guide but i have removed heatpipes & botched my own mosfett cooling

i have a thermal sensor lead wedged in the fins. Max is about 35C during orthos, so guessing it's probably around 40C

[grsz06]

Any positive/negative results from 902 bios?

[DoomSayer]

Just a few quick questions with the VDroop Pencil Mod:

1. How hard etc do you press when drawing the line etc??? or is it more of a - colour in / cake it on type action??
I've got a 3B pencil and don't want to stuff anything up! Im guessing i'll just go over it 3 or 4 times & that'll do???

2. When a new BIOS comes out (as the Beta 902 just has) - do you remove the Pencil mod and then update? or leave it??? Reason being - the Vdroop could have been fixed with a new bios release and if the pencil mod is still onboard - could it be too much????

Thanks in advance!!!

1. what i did was just draw a few lines from the one site to the other.
2. i dont think they will ever sort the vdrop trough a bios anyway.

[Brama]

Any positive/negative results from 902 bios?

I have been using it for 3 days and it seems like 803. Indeed I haven't a very aggressive overclock (e6600@9x380).

I have the feeling that memories are more stable but it is a feeling

[Brama]

2. i dont think they will ever sort the vdrop trough a bios anyway.

You are right! The vdrop is hardware related and a bios update is not able to correct it.
When you use the pencil, you reduce the resistance of feedback resistor of the chip that set the vcore voltage, so the gain of the loop is higher and the stability of voltage under different loads too.

The other side of the medal is the voltage ringing: if you lower too much the resistance with the pencil's graphite, the loop gain is too high and the voltage has fast oscillations that are called ringing.
If you give really too much gain to the loop, the voltage regulator become an oscillator.
If you don't have an oscilloscope to see the voltage wave form, I suggest that you leave a little vdrop after the pencil mod so you are 99.9% sure that your voltage is not ringing.

[DoomSayer]

still anyone have a clue on what changes in this new bios ???

[oqvist]

hmm it seems that the nforce 4 mainboard has the same holes as the Intel? Is this some ATX standard? If so I have the southbridge cooling set then it´s only a question on how to cool the mosfets. I don´t want to get rid of my warranty...

[Marco André]

Hi guys o/

This is my first post here in xtreme systems

I really want to know how to stop the buzz from my motherboard. Can anyone help me?

[Supershanks]

Hi diplomatan1,
welcome to the forum
seems 2 be 2 ways
1) See pics posts#485 & Post#493
2) Or RMA it .

from the number of people that have been effected think they should have called it Canary rather than Commando.

Luckily i'm not affected, or maybe my cooling is too loud

[ZilverPhish]

Trying to get my oc stable with 0902 beta bios. its a pita get cpu error in multithreaded pi tests and on top of that it doesnt pass cpu test in 3dmark 06<week 647 clocking fairly well but I might rma this commando board.
BIOS settings
pci express [100]
Pci clock [33.33]
spread spectrum [dis]

cpu vcore [1.5125]
fsb term voltage [1.450]
nb vcore [1.525]
DDR2 voltage [2.200]
DDR2 channel A [minus 30 mv]
DDR2 channel B [minus 30 mv]

sb vcore [1.70]
sb chipset [1.150]

ASUS cgi [dis]
static read [dis]

[Rubiconx3]

Up your PCI-E freq. It helped me get from 480-510 FSB i went to 120mhz

[Marco André]

Supershanks, the store where i bought it don't accept rma because this problem...

I will try with full watercooled system. Hope that noise stop!

Thanks

[Alexandrus]

Anyone tried the new 0902 beta BIOS ?

[sreedx2]

I am running the new bios 0902 and I do not notice any differences yet

still no one has posted what has changed/fixed in this bios ?

[DoomSayer]

anyone can tell me why windows xp says i run my cpu at 4.05GHz while its 3.6GHz ???

[doom_st]

it's a bug that calculate the speed from default multi

[sreedx2]

I am getting frustrated, can someone help me with my OC

running orthos blend my rig either reboots or fails within an hour or less

CPU Vcore 1.55 bios 1.52 under load
FSB term : 1.2
NB : 1.3
DDR REF's all at DDRII REF-30mv
SB Vcore 1.5
SB Chipset 1.05

I have 1048 team group ddr800 running stock which is 4-4-4-10 2.2v, I can run orthos on priority 9 for 24 hours on small ffts no prob

current OC of 400x9, I have tried so many different voltages for everything even auto and no go normally my rig will just reboot less than half an hour in, what am I doing wrong here ?

[Varsos]

I think your voltages except cpu are a little low.Try memtest for windows for an hour to see if there are any errors for your memory.If not then Vfsb:1.4, NB:1.5, SB:1.6-1.7, SB chip:1.125. Or maybe your memory needs a little more volts because of the 1066 strap.

Good luck.

[luihed]

how hot do the bridges and mosfet run?

I have a mcw60 northbridge cooler I could use but then that would leave the mosfets and southbridge without cooling... Would I gain much from watercooling the northbridge? how hot do the mosfets run? I am not planning on going crazy on voltage max 1,55 on the CPU and reasonably voltages on the northbridge and RAM.

the big problem would be the southbridge perhaps since I have a big 8800 GTX. I do want to keep cost at a minimum. Don´t feel like buying watercooling kits just for this single mainboard for 100s of bucks but if there is a real gain I would want to use my mcw60 since I already got it of course.

I got an HR05 to replace the nb cooler, I used a stock p5b dlx SB cooler and left the mosfett bare for a couple of days..... At vcore ~1.5v, it doesnt get that hot but over that and it does get hot but not as hot as the 8 black whatever its called around the cpu..... I got these swiftech 8800 mosfett heatsinks and it fits pretty good..... The other heatsinks are OCZ ramsinks.....

[sreedx2]

I think your voltages except cpu are a little low.Try memtest for windows for an hour to see if there are any errors for your memory.If not then Vfsb:1.4, NB:1.5, SB:1.6-1.7, SB chip:1.125. Or maybe your memory needs a little more volts because of the 1066 strap.

Good luck.

I tested the ram this morning with memtest86 did 5 passes and no errors, I tried the settings you suggested and nothing 10 -15 min then she just reboots

fsb vtt tried from 1.2 up to 1.4 - 1.45
nb tried 1.3 up to 1.6
ref tried a few plus auto
SB Vcore 1.5 up to 1.7
SB Chipset 1.050 up to 1.125

also tried upping the ram voltage from 2.2 almost up to 2.3, with all those voltages I have tried so many different combinations and cannot seem to find out what it is, I also tried upping the cpu Vcore a little and played with the pci express frequency 100 to 105 ..

it should not be this hard running the ram at stock V and timings

@luihed ... you live 800km's from me

[justin_c]

probably the ram is just a bad kit. simple explanation, as long as you've played with all the voltages. whats the stable clock and voltage, and latency that you can run? not necessarily stock.