Any one using fluid XP?

[cursivearmy1]

Here is my deal. I have some corsair coolant waiting for h20 setup. They say to add it to the res and top it off with some distilled. Is this a bad idea should I just get some pentosin stuff. My new case is coming soon and I been waiting a while so I dont feel like ordering stuff so what can I pick up from a store?

[JamesTX10]

Update:
Hank over at Performance-pc has been great in doing what they can to fix the situation. Fluid XP on the other hand has not. They asked me to send in a sample of the fluid and some of the gunk covered tubes (they wanted my rad, I said no) so they could test them to see what went wrong. "Because there is noting in our fluid that would "gunk" up your system." They say that they will pay for the shipping if they find out it was their fault. I am not holding my breath on that.

They also say that they are sending me two new bottles of fluid to replace the two that gunked up my system. I got a UPS note on my door yesterday that says I have a COD package. I look it up and sure enough it is from fluid xp. They sent out the replacement fluid COD. Not cool in my book. They should have told me before hand that there would be a charge to me for the shipping.

[ramenchef]

Oh wow. They COD'ed you for the replacement fluid xp? Just a little pentosion/zerex should work fine instead of fluid xp.

[JamesTX10]

Yup COD for the fluid. I am using pentosion now.

[$+€\/Ø]

A couple of questions for ya James,
1. Did you first flush your rad before putting in the FluidXP?
2. Are you using the old FluidXP or the newer FluidXP+EXT?

[JamesTX10]

1. I flushed with tap water and distilled water
2. Fluid XP+ HP (High Performance) Coolant - UV Blue

[$+€\/Ø]

Sounds like you prepared properly. That's a big hassle to go through, first the clouding problem, then to rub salt in your wounds, to ship a replacement COD. I feel for ya.

[sanhacker]

Was the tap or distilled hot? or not? Seems Marci is saying hot does the trick to flush out any of the water based flux they are now using.

Also, is that Robar or Hard Chrome in your avatar???

[JamesTX10]

It was not hot. The rad was a swiftech not a thermochill. My new thermochill was flushed with hot water and so far all is good using distilled water.

The gun is a bi-tone Springfield XD.

[FragTek]

Here's a little review we did on FluidXP, results not quite as good as straight water....

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p...rcooling_fluid

[sanhacker]

It was not hot. The rad was a swiftech not a thermochill. My new thermochill was flushed with hot water and so far all is good using distilled water.

I'm thinking that anyone selling products in the EU, which I believe Swiftech does, would have to go to a water based flux to be RoHS complaint. If this is the case, I'm thinking flushing with hot water would be the new defacto standard as opposed to vinegar, alcohol, etc.

Then again, maybe not.

[JamesTX10]

Wow. Just got an email back from Hank over at www.performance-pcs.com. It told me that they would refund me the COD cost that fluid XP is charging me. That is service. He could have blown this off a long time ago as I have been emailing him and fluid xp a lot. He has been VERY prompt in replying to emails. AWESOME CUSTOMER SERVICE

[sreedx2]

Nice, that is some good service

[Spawne32]

darnit, now why did someone go and mention fluid xp... *hangs self*

[JamesTX10]

Fluid XP has since emailed me back and told me that they found no issues with their product. They said that it must have been something in my loop. Beware. The only thing in my loop was my loop.

[Patriote]

Fluid XP has since emailed me back and told me that they found no issues with their product. They said that it must have been something in my loop. Beware. The only thing in my loop was my loop.

How predictable was that e-mail ... about there "test" ...

I mean do you seriously think that they even tested the 2 bottles ? They have sold tones and tones of that crap ... They just asked you to send them back the 2 bottles to make you feel better but overall im sure they didn't even had the idea to test out these 2 bottles. And im sure they didn't tested them.

Now that you know how good Fluid-XP is, will you ever buy some more ?

[JamesTX10]

Now that you know how good Fluid-XP is, will you ever buy some more ?

Um . . . No. I am still trying to figure out what I am going to do with the open bottle that I used a few ounces of.

[Marci]

Zerex and Pentosin/other manufacturer G11/G12/G12+ have biocides inside already, no need for additional stuff.

Not quite - Zerex Racing Super Coolant acts as a biocide only in that it has a coincidental side effect of shifting the coolant's pH to a point that is unsuitable for most biological growth and thus prevents it. It isn't a "designed" feature of that particular additive.

Think - people are seeing sludge with everything... from plain water thru to water with additives thru to non conductives. People ARE flushing and cleaning radiators before use and still getting issues. People are using no mixed metals and having issues. The source may be (or is) elsewhere in the system. What else is in contact with the coolant?

Look at the specsheet for Tygon's Silver Antimicrobial tubing... there are hints directly relevant to us.

[Patriote]

Not quite - Zerex Racing Super Coolant acts as a biocide only in that it has a coincidental side effect of shifting the coolant's pH to a point that is unsuitable for most biological growth and thus prevents it. It isn't a "designed" feature of that particular additive.

Think - people are seeing sludge with everything... from plain water thru to water with additives thru to non conductives. People ARE flushing and cleaning radiators before use and still getting issues. People are using no mixed metals and having issues. The source may be (or is) elsewhere in the system. What else is in contact with the coolant?

Look at the specsheet for Tygon's Silver Antimicrobial tubing... there are hints directly relevant to us.

Interesting. Marci, you are probably the one that know more than anybody else in here. How comes you know so much ? I bet you have been in the WC industry for quite a while! Each and all posts you write are interesting, provide lots of info and helped me lots of time too. Although sometimes i don't get everything you say Basically because english isn't my Basic\First language... most of the time it's pretty interesting. Thanks for that!

[Marci]

Find someone running a rig on Silver Antimicrobial. Get them to check for any sludge or buildup within blocks (obv needs to be someone who we can guarantee is running a "correct" coolant > additive ratio etc, pref someone running no mixed metals and plain distilled, who has flushed their hardware prior to fitting etc). Monitor their rig over a period of months to see if sludge appears...

And I'm not saying it's a microbial problem... just a feature of that particular tubing...

It's not a fact, but it's prime suspect for the cause of sludge and deposits amongst a few folks.

[jmilcher]

I think he was telling you its the Fluid XP. Use Pentosin 11 to get the blue color and not have the same headache.

Where can one go about buying the Pentosin 11?

[Patriote]

Where can one go about buying the Pentosin 11?

Are you asking where you can get Pentosin G11 ?

If so, heres where you can get some : http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoac.html

[Baenwort]

Find someone running a rig on Silver Antimicrobial. Get them to check for any sludge or buildup within blocks (obv needs to be someone who we can guarantee is running a "correct" coolant > additive ratio etc, pref someone running no mixed metals and plain distilled, who has flushed their hardware prior to fitting etc). Monitor their rig over a period of months to see if sludge appears...

And I'm not saying it's a microbial problem... just a feature of that particular tubing...

It's not a fact, but it's prime suspect for the cause of sludge and deposits amongst a few folks.

I'll let you guys know. I'm runing the Tygon Silver from Petra's with a Storm G2, a MC6002(w/237w TEC) and a BIX III cleaned with Vinigar the first time and hot distilled the most recent build.

Currently runing pure distilled water. I'm going to pull the loop apart April 7th for inspection and reflush. Been on pure water sense Jan 27th when the loop was redone after a FluidXP mistake.

[JargonGR]

Well I think I can report something too.

I am running a 3 loop system full copper blocks and no aluminium at all in the loops. I am only using distilled water and some silver wire in each of my reservoirs. All my radiators are Thermochill 2x PA120.2 and one PA120.3.

One of my radiators was used and maybe I did not clean as thoroughly as the other too so the tubing there got a bit cloudy (all tygon 3603). The other 2 loops are still reasonably clear and not algae growth at all after 2 months of use. And I think that if I had not used some UV additive they would be crystal clear. The 3rd loo (only chipset) I use for experiments and I also added some blue dye and I have to say it sucks.

So I would colour dyes indeed suck and UV clear additives lose their properties after about 2 weeks for me. At the end I will to some changes to my loop soon and this time its only distilled water and the silver wire for me.


NOTE: I am not actually using the normal distilled water but WFI (water for injection - medical) since it is so cheap here and I could not find distilled. This thing goes for 1.2 Euros per litre in the pharmacy store and when i asked they told me it is 8 times distilled.

[Tj*]

If this is the UV additive/ colouring that is being used....

http://www.rosco.com/australia/scenic/fluo_paint.asp

(vinyl acrylic)

What happens when it comes into contact (reacts) with other additives, like some alcohols?