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    Air chiller WIP ..

    As promised, heres some pictures of the work in progress..

    This is the box made up from styropor... and rezized picture... sorry bout dat.

    Last edited by mindnumb1; 05-23-2006 at 02:23 PM.

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    here is the box on its frame plus cooling system...



    Pipes for cooling system is all spread out. No system as of yet...
    Last edited by mindnumb1; 05-24-2006 at 03:25 AM.

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    please scale those pictures.

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    man, drop your pic size they are insane

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    High pressure side finished, missing back plate to cover it up...
    Last edited by mindnumb1; 05-23-2006 at 02:27 PM.

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    inside box, cooling pipes pretty getto style there...


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    Back plate in place to ensure proper air flow, kind of... air enters to the right and passes over the pipes, then drawn into mainbord habitat. Will probably do some ducting to direct the air flow towards essential parts..


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    Still have som serious painting to do, a lot of adaption of covers and stuff. luckily thursday is holiday here in Norway, so I might get something done by then.
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    looks cool, although if you plan to put a computer in there that dinky compressor and convection cooled condensor aren't going to be able to handle the heatload

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    Planning to put inn some fans to help cooling. Just hope the compressor will cope...
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    look like you hacked apart your dorm fridge, if not it probably been easier just to buy one.
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    looks like its in desperate need of a condenser replacement in order to be able to cool anything close to a modern pc heatload.
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    I hope the surface area of the radiator is going to be sufficient combined with added fans. Otherwise Ill have to get hold of the new M2 systems with 35 watt cpu...

    If it doesent handle the load, im in big trouble as the cost of a radiator plus all the brazing equipment and valves would put my project way ahed in the future...

    I have alot of fans tho, but would prefer to use as few as possible due to noize.... guess i just have to test it, and see if added fans does the trick....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindnumb1
    I hope the surface area of the radiator is going to be sufficient combined with added fans. Otherwise Ill have to get hold of the new M2 systems with 35 watt cpu...

    If it doesent handle the load, im in big trouble as the cost of a radiator plus all the brazing equipment and valves would put my project way ahed in the future...

    I have alot of fans tho, but would prefer to use as few as possible due to noize.... guess i just have to test it, and see if added fans does the trick....

    .....trembling in agony and pain......
    there are no "radiators" in a refrigeration loop. There are condensers and evaporators. I assume you are talking about the condenser.

    And those dinky condensers on the back of refrigerators are really bad. Pick up a decent one from one of the members here or on flebay. You can get one for $25-$45.
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    Yes , I am talking about the condenser.

    And for the compressor: how are they rated? I guess there are many factors involved, like the cooling medium and cooling capasity in condenser side.

    My compressor is only labled with cooling medium ( r600) and frequenzy and voltage, ( 50-60 hz, 230-250 v) cant see any marks on amps draw, or displacement.
    I guess if displacement was known one could figure out what its good for, but for now, I have to test it under load to see. I am corrently thinking about putting in some kind of load to see how it behaves. any tips on a proper load source, my wifes hair dryer would be a little over the top..
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    For heatload tester read jins advice, it works very well.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=99979

    As far as the compressor rating, it depends on what you want to rate. If you want to rate the displacement its ussually done in Cubic Centimeters (cc). If you want to rate the voluemetric efficiency I forget what its rated in. If you want to rate the power (energy over time) horsepower and watts are the common measures of power. The capacity is ussualy rated in btu's, One Btu is equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of liquid water by 1 degree Fahrenheit at its maximum density, which occurs at a temperature of 39.1 degrees Fahrenheit. Take your pick. Most people here use hp or watts. I prefer watts, makes other calculations more intuitive.
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    hmmm, 100 watt light bulb=100w,150bulb=150w
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdrzal
    hmmm, 100 watt light bulb=100w,150bulb=150w
    you and your light bulbs lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by epion2985
    you and your light bulbs lol
    what could be better or easier? you already know the wattage,the selection is big and the "price is right" sounds like a good name for a game show
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    Yea light bulbs should work excellent for this, but for direct die it's a lil bit risky

    @ mindnumb1: Did you braze up the system yourself or did you rip it out of a freezer/cooler? Looks kinda fun but your compressor seems a bit small.

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    Perfect ! Gonna try it out !!!

    Cant believe I didnt I didnt think of that !
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    AASMAUKR :

    I just ripped it out, no brazing involved. Thats why the pipes looks so getto, its not possible to route them properly... but I intend to cover them up anyways, so its not gonna look too bad. (or so I hope)
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    Now . getting close to an update here... Pictures tonigt i guess.

    Have some serious concerns tho..

    I did a load test with a 100 watt lightbulb. It barely gets by that load. Ouch. I really dont know the heat load of the system, but im pretty sure it is well over 100 watts. It seems I might have to get hold of a new cooling system, unless I can alleviate some of the load by optimizing air flow over the condenser.

    I did however find out how to adjust the shutoff / on point for the thermostat. I will post pictures on how its done.

    Does anyone know how the operation speed of the compressor works? Is it fixed (frequenzy controlled by the powerline freq.) or does it vary? seems to be fixed, so I am guessing added cooling cant do much difference exept lowering pressure and thus comp. load on condenser side... Please tell me it is not so !!!
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    Yay, another Norwegian into this phase-change stuff.

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    Fett !!!

    Er dere i oslo eller ?
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