Kingston launch 1GB dimms with 2-2-2-5 timings

[neologan]

http://www.pureoverclock.com/story.php?id=735

Finally! I wonder what IC's these use?

[nn_step]

Probably the most Speed Binned chips they can find.. but given the odds it is just CE-5...

[ozzimark]

i didn't think ce-5 did 2-2-2 all that often?

[eBoy0]

At 200mhz, I'd be willing to guess most ddr500 kits would do those timings.

[ozzimark]

At 200mhz, I'd be willing to guess most ddr500 kits would do those timings.

the two sets of infineon/aeneon CE i have disagrees. 2-3-2 isn't remotely close to stable. 2-3-1 is though.

[LivingL@rGe81]

But why are they still testing an old virtually extinct platform?

Kingston Technology Ultra Low Latency Specifications:

* 184-pin Unbuffered DDR Modules
* PC3200 400-MHz settings: 2-2-2-5-1
* Voltage: 2.7V
* Tested for optimum performance on ASUS® P4C800-Deluxe, Abit® NF7
* S and DFI® LanParty UT NF4 SLI-DR

[nn_step]

Actually there is a chance but I highly doubt it..
But it wasn't uncommon for Micron -D to hit that @ DDR-400 speeds..
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2676&p=5
And it couldn't be UCCC because they really don't like Tight..
And getting 2-2-2-7 on my Micron -F isn't going to happen in my lifetime..
So it most probably is CE-5

But why are they still testing an old virtually extinct platform?

Because they can make money by doing this
and that is the whole point...

[neologan]

At 200mhz, I'd be willing to guess most ddr500 kits would do those timings.

I've not come across any that can apart from some Ballistix kits (Micron based) and we all know what happens to those 20 minutes after you install them ...

horse = those new ballistix modules you just installed.

[Pyr0]

Actually there is a chance but I highly doubt it..
But it wasn't uncommon for Micron -D to hit that @ DDR-400 speeds..
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2676&p=5
And it couldn't be UCCC because they really don't like Tight..
And getting 2-2-2-7 on my Micron -F isn't going to happen in my lifetime..
So it most probably is CE-5

nope, they use BGA chips on these kits

[cromwello]

looks kinda cool, but i have found most 2GB kits will do 2,2,2,5 at 200mhz.

i can push my xms 4000 to 2,2,2,5 at 2.9V.

[funkflix]

This Kingston are with new Infineon BGA ICs, they clock not really well.

200MHz 2.0-2-2-5 2.6V - 2.8V OK
205MHz 2.0-2-2-5 2.6V - 3.0V NO
210MHz 2.5-2-2-5 2.6V - 3.0V NO
217MHz 2.0-3-2-5 2.7V - 2.8V OK
220MHz 2.0-3-2-5 2.7V - 3.0V NO
240MHz 2.5-3-2-5 2.7V - 2.8V OK
250MHz 3.0-4-4-8 2.7V - 3.0V NO

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...8&postcount=77

[nn_step]

This Kingston are with new Infineon BGA ICs, they clock not really well.



http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...8&postcount=77

They look very very touchy..

[farksy]

They look very very touchy..

True. But 2-2-2-5 1Gb out of the box sure sounds nice for some non-overclockers. Good news for them, bad new for us =(

[nn_step]

True. But 2-2-2-5 1Gb out of the box sure sounds nice for some non-overclockers. Good news for them, bad new for us =(

it is kind of like saying "hey we have a cure for cancer.. unfortunately all the people who have cancer just happen to be fatally allergic to the cure"

[Vassili]

This Kingston are with new Infineon BGA ICs, they clock not really well.

I don't think the guy tweaked it much, seening he only ups the voltage (2,8-3,0Volt) Maybe they fly with less?

[funkflix]

I think he tested a lot more, then he wrote down in the thread, because he sell pretestet memory in his shop too.

[Bar81]

Talk to me about real timings, at DDR500 and above :P

[Vincentvega18]

someone at kingston is being sneeky it seems. Put out a bunch of mems rated to 2-2-2-5 ddr400 and the overclockers will snatch them up, despite they will ONLY run at ddr400 really. Oh well, ddr2 is nearly the new standard (roll on 23rd).

[eiceman]

This module sounds good ，but it's too late

[mursaat]

Hmm I still think my BH-5 runs do better (even with games) at 260 2-2-2-5 1T. The lower size is compensated by the speed and timings. Because the best improvement I've seen by having 2gb in games is around a 5%, and 260 vs 200 is a 30%

I know it's oranges vs. apples, but overall I'm pretty sure my comp runs better with what I have.

[vengance_01]

nah. your gonna want 2GB trust me. Most decent 2GB kits can do 250FSB with loose timmings, UCCC.

[eddieate]

hm those nice corsair pc3500 2-3-2-6-1T still look nicer to me
and I guess they can go higher at cas3.
Ed.

[neologan]

Hmm I still think my BH-5 runs do better (even with games) at 260 2-2-2-5 1T. The lower size is compensated by the speed and timings. Because the best improvement I've seen by having 2gb in games is around a 5%, and 260 vs 200 is a 30%

I know it's oranges vs. apples, but overall I'm pretty sure my comp runs better with what I have.

Speed vs capacaity doesn't really correlate. You can have all the speed in the world on a 2x512MB kit but if you run out of capacity to store data it will start disk thrashing, and you can't overclock your HDD

[nn_step]

Speed vs capacaity doesn't really correlate. You can have all the speed in the world on a 2x512MB kit but if you run out of capacity to store data it will start disk thrashing, and you can't overclock your HDD

well you can.. it just costs alot more

[neologan]

you can actually overclock a HDD, or are you just saying you can get a faster one like solid state drives?