President of VoodooPC confirms Crossfire on nForce4

[Mr. Tinker]

What? No freaking way.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2005/12...nse-to-me.html

[Tim]

eh? wow.....nice, wonder what they did....

[wfarid]

well if nvidea bought ULI, it makes total sense. Wow that was surprising, i had no idea that Nvidea was buying ULI...

[Cooper]

Wow.
If ATi won`t make something (if they actualy can) to stop this - they are in BIG BOWL O`

[ChongL]

It seems ATI gets in a bigger hole every day

[Tim]

It seems ATI gets in a bigger hole every day

Not really....

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28368

Q3 2005 turned the market upside down. Chipset shipments grew but there were some major shifts in this particular neck of the woods of the market. Nvidia dropped to six per cent with only 500,000 chipsets shipped in this sector. ATI grew to 36 per cent and managed to ship 3,100,000 chipsets. Via is the leader with 42 per cent of market and 3,600,000 chipsets while plucky little SIS stayed at 14 per cent of the market but shipped 1, 200, 000 chipsets. The other vendors captured two per cent of market with 200 000 chipsets sold. In Q3 2005.µ

[Karma]

Doesn't this make more people buy ATi cards?

nVidia GPU + nVidia MB;
ATi GPU + ATi MB;
ATi GPU + nVidia MB;
NO nVidia GPU + ATi MB

With no confirmation that SLI works on ATi MB's. So with these combinations we have ATi having 2 out of 3 graphics cards, and nVidia having 2 out of 3 MB combinations. I don't see any problems here.

[Magnj]

...now to mod this abd boy to SLI...and get a master card

[ChongL]

Not really....

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28368

Q3 2005 turned the market upside down. Chipset shipments grew but there were some major shifts in this particular neck of the woods of the market. Nvidia dropped to six per cent with only 500,000 chipsets shipped in this sector. ATI grew to 36 per cent and managed to ship 3,100,000 chipsets. Via is the leader with 42 per cent of market and 3,600,000 chipsets while plucky little SIS stayed at 14 per cent of the market but shipped 1, 200, 000 chipsets. The other vendors captured two per cent of market with 200 000 chipsets sold. In Q3 2005.µ

That was in the past...now that nVidia has ULi...they'll just sell more chipsets than before. I don't want to bring up the graphics department since it'll just start another heated debate

[Karma]

No biggie. ATi has a huge presence in the OEM market but just barely getting into the Performance market with RD480/RD580. nVidia will surely get more market share, but with ATi also pushing into new sectors of the market I think ATi will not be toppeled.

[DilTech]

Doesn't this make more people buy ATi cards?

nVidia GPU + nVidia MB;
ATi GPU + ATi MB;
ATi GPU + nVidia MB;
NO nVidia GPU + ATi MB

With no confirmation that SLI works on ATi MB's. So with these combinations we have ATi having 2 out of 3 graphics cards, and nVidia having 2 out of 3 MB combinations. I don't see any problems here.

It means more people will buy NVidia motherboards though, stopping ATi from getting proper footing in the high-end mobo sector.

ATi can't block it either, ULi had an agreement with ATi, a signed contract to allow support of CF on their mobo's. With NVidia owning ULi, that contract carries over.

As for ATi pushing more mobo's, right now, most people who want NF4's have them already, compared to ATi's mobo's which just came out.

[aMp]

Do we know the contract carries over? On this scale there are often backout provisions for this sort of thing, usually subject to reasonable conditions -- i.e. 6-month lead time, continued support of existing products, etc.

[DilTech]

The entire reason NVidia bought ULi was for their patents and contracts... As long as NVidia doesn't change ULi's name the contract will carry over.

[perkam]

Not really....

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28368

Q3 2005 turned the market upside down. Chipset shipments grew but there were some major shifts in this particular neck of the woods of the market. Nvidia dropped to six per cent with only 500,000 chipsets shipped in this sector. ATI grew to 36 per cent and managed to ship 3,100,000 chipsets. Via is the leader with 42 per cent of market and 3,600,000 chipsets while plucky little SIS stayed at 14 per cent of the market but shipped 1, 200, 000 chipsets. The other vendors captured two per cent of market with 200 000 chipsets sold. In Q3 2005.µ

That article is now withdrawn from The Inq. It looked too good to be true anyway, ATI vs Nvidia a 1:6 ratio in favour of ATI on AMD ???!!!

Theinq...shalt thou doth never learn ??

Perkam

[Tim]

That article is now withdrawn from The Inq. It looked too good to be true anyway, ATI vs Nvidia a 1:6 ratio in favour of ATI on AMD ???!!!

Theinq...shalt though doth never learn ??

Perkam

Hahaha that's rich...stupid idiots ....

[ChongL]

lol...your support just got owned!!

[Tim]

lol...your support just got owned!!

Hahahaha, that's awesome...one minute I'm an nVidia fanboy, the next an ATI fanboy....

[Shadowmage]

Wait, why is this bad for ATI?

Isn't this good since ATI motherboards are just entering the market, so this makes more people buy Crossfire?

[P_1]

I already said this a while ago, sli and crossfire are both backwards compatible, all that is needed is 2 8x pcie and maybe removal of some chipset checks.

[ahmad]

The guy says with very little trouble. The question is: where are those rich bastards who have thousands of $$$ to throw on hardware that HAVEN'T TRIED THIS OUT??!!?

Cause if this is true, I might be interested in getting a mastercard. I really don't want to be messing with inferior chipsets until ATI can impress me there. But I still don't get it: russians figured out how to hardmod x800pros to XTs and people have put different BGA memory on graphics cards after having them "fall off", and we have some dude who got crossfire running on an intel board. Why the heck haven't we seen anyone with Crossfire+NF4?

Me. Want. Benches. Now.

[Tim]

Me. Want. Benches. Now.

Mod your own driver...now

[Mr. Tinker]

I already said this a while ago, sli and crossfire are both backwards compatible, all that is needed is 2 8x pcie and maybe removal of some chipset checks.

I'd call it sideways compatible.

[Cooper]

Compatible/Incompatible....was there really any need for XFire to have support by chipset ??? I think not. EVERYTHING is done by Compositing Engine chip on VGA. You just have to add mobo with two PCI-e 8x/16x and tweak the driver to eliminate any sorts of protection

[Tanktanium]

That article is now withdrawn from The Inq. It looked too good to be true anyway, ATI vs Nvidia a 1:6 ratio in favour of ATI on AMD ???!!!

Theinq...shalt thou doth never learn ??

Perkam

All of the inq except for Fuad have some credibility. Fuad has none, or negative credibility. He generates an internal field of disbelief and he can't write articles worth a damn (or spell, for that matter)

[Karma]

Compatible/Incompatible....was there really any need for XFire to have support by chipset ??? I think not. EVERYTHING is done by Compositing Engine chip on VGA. You just have to add mobo with two PCI-e 8x/16x and tweak the driver to eliminate any sorts of protection

Rahul said there was very little modification to get SLI to work on the CF MB. If it truly is very easy to get it running, and more press about it, ATi may start pushing CF MB's for their flexibility, too.

And the never-ending dance continues..........