MUSHKIN PC4000 2gB SMOOKKIINNNNN!!

[sin0822]

how far ytou get wiht 3,3,3,8?

[Squire]

It looks like 2GB Gskill ZX OC results thread is getting nearly the same overall OC results as the 2GB mushkin Redlines, which is around 250-260~ (2.5-3-2-8 ish).

ZX uses the same IC as the redline?

[uOpt]

ZX uses the same IC as the redline?

That's what some of us think, along with OCZ's EB PC4000 and some random Corsair kit, too.

Question is why G.Skill is so cheap and rates at PC3200. If Infineon sends them tested lower binned chips we shouldn't see such a big number of kits do well. I think the rate of people > 250 MHz is better than 50% (didn't count).

[Reinvented]

And since when is 280 bad? This stuff isn't UCCC...it's not meant to clock to 300MHz (although only one UCCC sample I've seen has), it's more meant for great clocks at 2.5-3-2 and 3-3-2.

Didn't say it was bad. I said, I was trying to hit it. Please learn to read.

Although at 270 1:1, I was stable in prime, I've decided to deal with 250x11 1:1 at 2.5-4-4-8 with 2.8v. I actually decided to put a nice panaflo fan on my PWMIC, and it dropped the temps a lot. I found it was easier to overclock the memory a bit farther and make it more stable. I was able to push it at 280 1:1 @ 2.8v, and i got it running long enough to record it in CPU-z

So, for now, I am content.

[rcillig]

for all who care these have made it too newegg.com

[sin0822]

for all who care these have made it too newegg.com

Still on Auto-notify: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146034

[Squire]

Still on Auto-notify: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146034

No... it's because it sold out within 30 minutes when it was back in stock.

[uOpt]

Just got an email from chiefvalue that it is in stock. But that's the same stock as newegg's.

[bobov]

8 kits in stock @ newegg.com.

[Duonger]

7 left

Duonger

[sin0822]

y would you use "just below stock voltage" ?

[stu_allen]

I dont know whether its just my x2, but ive found that dual cores and high fsb's do not get on at all. I get a 100mhz cpu clock extra by dropping from 255fsb to 241...
Full story tomorrow after ive looped S&M over night to confirm its rock solid.

[ben805]

I bought 3 more pairs from Newegg and I've been playing with them in the past couple days, and tested them one stick at a time in single channel mode at 1T, vdimm 2.7v and I'd tried 9x and 10x multiplier:


Max 3D stable @3-3-2-8

stick1: 250
stick2: 255

stick3: 264
stick4: 252

stick5: 252
stick6: 256



Increased vdimm to 2.8v did nothing to these sticks, 3-3-3-8 or very relax timing didn't help higher memclock either, since I was testing them individually in single channel so there's practically no stress on the mem controller, that's almost $1000 worth of ram and I still can't get any of them to do 3D stable any higher than 260 @3-3-2-8 The best they could managed was only 258 as I had to matched stick3 and stick6 together (two highest clockers). Needless to say I'm very disappointed with these sticks....atleast now I can't fault my motherboard, memory controller, or my memory tweaking skill. Don't get me wrong...these ram are decent but I do not think they worth $300/pair, I'm going to pack them up, send them straight back to newegg and suck up the 15% restocking fees...about $140 down the drain.

[101]

I've got a pair of these and a pair of the ZX. It's clear that these new infineon chips are not what everyone was hoping they would be.

[sin0822]

wierd, isnt it? How this ran better on intel than amd?

[Squire]

I'm very disappointed with these sticks too.

sin- I don't think these sticks run better on intel. Those particular sticks that were used on the intel was just a better ocer I think.

It seems that all the 2Gb sets are crap right now.

Micron= Early deaths\too hot
Infineon= not 3d stable
Samsung= Very Loose timings (3-4-4-8)

[sin0822]

These are all 3dmark 01 se stable, i cant test now because i killed that board

[Squire]

You sure thats 3dmark01 stable? Did you try looping it overnight?

My redlines at 260 seemed to be rock solid stable when I ran 3dmark01 a couple of times but when I looped it overnight, it eventually crashed.

I set it down to 255 and looped 3dmark01 all day and it never crashed for 12 hours.

[FlyBoyGeo]

ben805, I feel your pain with these sticks. Have tried all different timings and voltages and can't get 3D stable over 260 period. Mushkin.com has a 90 day return policy, I might have to use it.

[bobov]

Increased vdimm to 2.8v did nothing to these sticks, 3-3-3-8 or very relax timing didn't help higher memclock either, since I was testing them individually in single channel so there's practically no stress on the mem controller, that's almost $1000 worth of ram and I still can't get any of them to do 3D stable any higher than 260 @3-3-2-8 The best they could managed was only 258 as I had to matched stick3 and stick6 together (two highest clockers). Needless to say I'm very disappointed with these sticks....atleast now I can't fault my motherboard, memory controller, or my memory tweaking skill. Don't get me wrong...these ram are decent but I do not think they worth $300/pair, I'm going to pack them up, send them straight back to newegg and suck up the 15% restocking fees...about $140 down the drain.

I brought my 2GB XP-4000 directly from mushkin. My pairs can only do 260 3d stable @2.6v 3-3-2-8, 265 prime stable but not 3d stable.

[Vapor]

ben805, I feel your pain with these sticks. Have tried all different timings and voltages and can't get 3D stable over 260 period. Mushkin.com has a 90 day return policy, I might have to use it.

You're RMAing because it won't run 260? That's just lame dude.

[Bar81]

Agree. If it works at the advertised speed and timings then there's nothing wrong with it. Complaining because you're not getting more than you bargained for is extremely weak and using the RMA for that reason is deplorable. You bought the sticks knowing full well what they were rated for.

[ben805]

You're RMAing because it won't run 260? That's just lame dude.

I did not spend a thousand dollar on new memory just to get them up to only 258 and only the highest chosen stick can do that as the matched pair can only do 255 or less, there's other ram out there that can do the same for $220~$240/pr, like someone else already mentioned Mushkin has 90 days return policy, newegg has 30 days, if I'm not satisfy because of whatever reason it might be I have all the rights to return them, even if the ram has a needle size scratch on it....or hell...if the warranty sticker color is a bit off and if I don't like it I'll return them all I want, unsatisfied is just that....unsatisfied. Afterall...it's my money so who the hell are you to say it's lame DUDE! That's extremely disturbing and moronic for you to make such a stupid comment like that!!

Agree. If it works at the advertised speed and timings then there's nothing wrong with it. Complaining because you're not getting more than you bargained for is extremely weak and using the RMA for that reason is deplorable. You bought the sticks knowing full well what they were rated for.

ok lemme see.....my original pair only do 255 on the asus motherboard but can only managed 250 on DFI, and now 3 new pairs that can't clock worth a crap so that's how much.... that's total of $1200 worth of ram!! If majority of these ram can only do the rated speed and only few mhz above spec then they should be rated as regular or value ram, they do not qualify to be label as EXTREME ram and sell as such!!! so tell me what so extreme about them? geewiz....I can understand if I only have 1 pair, but all 4 pairs can't even break 258...what's the odd? you can be a mushkin fan boy all you want but these sticks are going straight back to newegg as I'm sure many others like yourself and Vapor won't mind paying $300 for some sticks that can only do the rated speed I'd already kept the first pair that I originally got from Mushkin directly but these 3 new pairs have got to go....

[Bar81]

Dude, they could call them God's superpowerful oompa loompa gizmondotech ultra extreme hotness RAM for all that it matters. That suddenly doesn't mean you get a pass for not possessing the ability to read specifications. Where in the specifications or name does it mention that they are rated for anything above 250. Point that out and then I'll see your point. Otherwise, you're being ridiculous. The fact that you can't read is a poor reason for an RMA.

Roll yourself back to third grade and bone up on your reading comprehension skills. You should be overly concerned about being a "reading" fanboy before you spout off your ignorant comments.

[Vapor]

I did not spend a thousand dollar on new memory just to get them up to only 258 and only the highest chosen stick can do that as the matched pair can only do 255 or less, there's other ram out there that can do the same for $220~$240/pr, like someone else already mentioned Mushkin has 90 days return policy, newegg has 30 days, if I'm not satisfy because of whatever reason it might be I have all the rights to return them, even if the ram has a needle size scratch on it....or hell...if the warranty sticker color is a bit off and if I don't like it I'll return them all I want, unsatisfied is just that....unsatisfied. Afterall...it's my money so who the hell are you to say it's lame DUDE! That's extremely disturbing and moronic for you to make such a stupid comment like that!!



ok lemme see.....my original pair only do 255 on the asus motherboard but can only managed 250 on DFI, and now 3 new pairs that can't clock worth a crap so that's how much.... that's total of $1200 worth of ram!! If majority of these ram can only do the rated speed and only few mhz above spec then they should be rated as regular or value ram, they do not qualify to be label as EXTREME ram and sell as such!!! so tell me what so extreme about them? geewiz....I can understand if I only have 1 pair, but all 4 pairs can't even break 258...what's the odd? you can be a mushkin fan boy all you want but these sticks are going straight back to newegg as I'm sure many others like yourself and Vapor won't mind paying $300 for some sticks that can only do the rated speed I'd already kept the first pair that I originally got from Mushkin directly but these 3 new pairs have got to go....

If you want to recoup your money...sell them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the sticks, they just don't work as far above specs as you would like. Do NOT give these back to Mushkin saying "your loss, not mine."

Above that, I am INSULTED that by the bolded part of what you said. RMAing perfectly good sticks after buying a few sets of it is immoral and just plain wrong. Really dude, just because something doesn't OC as well as you would have hoped is not basis for RMAing and punishing the company (yes, they can resell/respec to/for OEMs if it still works to recoup some of it) is just wrong.

Furthermore, they ran at their rating....250 3-3-2 for 2GB sets is pretty damn extreme in most people's books. On top of that, it's just a name, not an OC rating

And, yes, I'd be upset if I got bum OCing hardware, but I'd just turn around and sell it. The company made a product that works to its specs and that's that, they really have no reason to be punished for making sticks that don't OC as well as YOU would like.