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    New better thernmal paste - STEvil

    Compound X will be revealed at the bottom of the post 8-)

    Well, its not new, and it isnt actually meant to be used as a thermal interface material, but it sure does KICK ASS.

    I have tested it on:

    (1)XP 1800+ Palomino @ 1650-1683 1.8v
    - Dr. Thermal TiV77n w/ Delta 60 7krpm 38cfm
    (2)XP 1800+ Palomino @ 1320 1.75v (230 watt PSU )
    - Chrome orb + 35cfm 60mm thermaltake fan
    (3)XP 1700+ T-Bred A @ 1740 1.65v
    - Dr. Thermal TiV77n w/ Delta 60 8krpm 41cfm or so
    (4)XP 1700+ T-Bred B @ 1812 1.6v (mobo limited 8-/)
    - Dr. Thermal TiV77n w/ Delta 60 8krpm 41cfm or so

    1 - 35c load 1650, 36c load 1683 (unstable) - AS2/Nanotherm blue
    --- 30c load 1683, stable... with compound X.
    2 - 55-60c load 1320... AS2/Nanotherm blue
    --- 50c load compound X.
    3 - 33c load 1740 AS2/Nanotherm
    --- 31c load 1812 compound X.
    4 - 34c load 1812 AS2/Nanotherm
    --- 31c load 1812 Compound X.

    1 - Shuttle AK11 rev 3.2 mobo.
    2 - Epox 8KTA3 w/ 230 watt PSU. Mobo limited to 120mhz FSB due to psu 8-/ Damn those mosfets get hot!
    3 & 4 - Different Epox 8KTA3 w/ 350 watt PSU. Mobo limited to 145 FSB due to ram.. at any settings 8-/

    each heatsink and cpu was cleaned with isopropal alcohol between tests. I know they arent perfect tests, but it gives us an idea as to what this stuff can do 8-)

    Compound X is:

    Permatex Anti Seize Compound (a product of loctite technology).. part number 133H. Ammount: 113g Price: $13 CDN

    Links:
    I think this is the same stuff.. its in a different bottle, though.. mines fat and shorter.. and only rated to 870deg C.. that stuff goes to 1315deg C!
    http://ken-co.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=133H

    There is also some copper based stuff out there.. might be even better 8-)

    I dont know if it is electrically conductive, though... I have tested it with my digital multimeter and have seen no numbers pop up... but you never know until you run a bit of power or so through it.. 8-)

    Is nail polish electrically conductive? Might be good for covering ram leads/gpu tops/whatnot..? 8-)

    EDIT

    Results comming sometime in the next 3 or 4 days (?) on 1700+ T-Bred B with TiV77n and 7k screamer on 8K3A+ 8-)

    Wont have AS2/Nanotherm results, though.. I ran out.. 8-/

    EDIT 2

    Oops. I thought I put it in the overclocking forum.. shows you what playing loud music to break in a new subwoofer will do to you.. lol 8-)
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    A scan of the said good TIM 8-)
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    How does it perform compared to tooth paste though?

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    dude.. you scanned that stuff
    you compared it with AS2.. but what about AS3?

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    Permatex®. A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper, and graphite lubricants. Use during assembly to prevent galling, corrosion, and seizing, and to assure easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60° F. to 1200° F. Salt, corrosion, and moisture resistant; ideal for marine use. Non-aerosol version meets Mil Spec No. 907E. Suggested applications: For easy removal of spark plugs and cylinder head and exhaust head bolts. Lubricates sliding caliper disc brakes.

    They forgot to mention cooling processors. So what possessed you to try this as a thermal paste? BTW, a one ounce tube is about $3.69 US. Not bad
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    It looked like AS2 and I was nearly out.. lol 8-) Was worth a shot, anyways, heh.

    No as3 on hand. Thermal paste is expensive.. 8-/ That Nanotherm blue is from the review I did for Nanotherm..

    EDIT

    If a moderator wants to move this to overclocking, I would greatly appreciate it.. posted in wrong forum by mistake 8-)

    Update on sub - I took my digital multimeter and measured my AC output on the amp to see what kind of power im dropping onto the poor Jensen XS1212 (175RMS is what it handles I think)...

    Voltage went between 20 and 60 staying around the 33-46 area a lot 8-)

    That means im stuffing 200 (20) to 1800 (60) watts RMS down its throat... with an average of 544 (30) to 1058 (46).

    All this out of a lowly built by MTX Rockford Fosgate 200x2 from about 1997... 8-)
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    Re: New better thernmal paste - STEvil

    Originally posted by STEvil
    Is nail polish electrically conductive? Might be good for covering ram leads/gpu tops/whatnot..? 8-)
    I remember reading that nail polish eventually becomes corrosive might eat a trace ect ... probably would just trap more heat anyway.

    Thats a great find lot's of auto parts stores around, no waiting.


    Edit: No nail polish isn't conductive, don't know about metalic nail polish though?
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    Nice find STEvil. Keep running it, and tell us if it wears out with time. As to moving your thread, I can't since I'm not a moderator on the AMD forum .
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    STEvil, one other question. How easy/difficult is it to clean off your cpu?
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    I never used anything but Threadlube (copper -based) until the socket A came out. It is a bit coarser than the Locktite stuff so it doesn't work that well on really small surfaces but otherwise..

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    I used to use that stuff all the time when I was doing truck mechanic stuff, good stuff.

    There are other products out there that do the same thing....
    JetLube has a bunch of different variations also like Kopr Kote ,that I used to use on ground leads ( I used to do alot of Wireless Telecom cell site building) to prevent corrosion..
    That stuff can be found here( the white papers):

    http://www.jetlubecanada.com/AS.html

    Thats just the canada branch.........

    I never tested this stuff for this application, as I never had it just laying around, and I don't do that kind of work anymore.

    Good job Stevil

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    I dont think it will wear out anytime soon.. or else it wouldnt be on the market as an anti-seize compound.. lol 8-)

    Removing it was just as easy, if not a bit easier, than removing AS2. Wiped off really nice.

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    Originally posted by STEvil
    Removing it was just as easy, if not a bit easier, than removing AS2. Wiped off really nice.
    I've never used AS2 or AS3, just AS1 which as far as I'm concerned is a §§§§§ to get off. You say wiped off really nice, do you mean with just a clean rag and nothing else, or did you have to use some sort of solvent?
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    easiest way to get the stuff off is handwhashing paste that you get in any auto parts store. Just rub it on with your finger and rinse the entire CPU under lukewarm water. Works for AS -XXX thermal pads, any other compound I have tried.

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    wipes off with a rag.

    Never tried AS1.. 8-)

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    Originally posted by STEvil
    wipes off with a rag.

    Never tried AS1.. 8-)
    Sounds good. May have to drop by the auto parts store soon
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    UPDATE

    Running it on my 1700+ JIUHB at 2ghz 1.7v....

    50cfm sunon 80mm hot glued to a Dr. Thermal TiV77n..

    35c Load 8-)

    Gotta give 12.5x166 a try.. this 7.5ns Micron stick is going like crazy, even if I do have to force 3v down its throat, lol 8-)

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    Did you ever figure out for sure whether it's electrically conductive?
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    Anything copper or silver-based will be conductive. Once got some threadlube between the legs of the L2 cache of the SlotA Athlon which was not good..

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    Talking

    1.75.. mobo overvolts slightly 8-)

    Sweet.
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    Ah, so you got the 12.5X multiplier working. Excellent. Those temps are pretty good, but it's at idle there, not at load.
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    Thats load.. seti@home in the bottom righthand corner with the grey dish 8-)

    Ran some prime on it and didnt get any hotter, so I guess its pretty close 8-)

    Your year/week is backwards in your sig 8-)

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    Bump

    This should be in the OC'ing forum, btw... maybe a sticky? 8-)

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    bump for update from ya STEvil

    I'm looking around town but they seem to be out for the moment - any other brands of the same thing?
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    you still getting good results in the long term?
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