DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert

**s7e9h3n** · 10-04-2005, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by cantankerous

judging by the picture does anything think you would be able to fit a Swiftech MCX-159 on the northbridge for cooling? I have one here from my Nf2 board that I would love to use again if it would fit. A copper variant is available now as well.

Hehehe...how bout on a current DFI?

**cantankerous** · 10-04-2005, 05:28 AM

oh

, no way! Cant use the fan I take it? I would never be able to do this as I have the ATI Silencer on card covering the chipset sink completely. The new revision seems to have more space to accomodate. How are the temps witht he 159 in comparison to the stock fan? Thanks for the picture however, very interesting.

I also see you don't have the molex plugged into the board. You find the board still runs fine this way?

**Ugly n Grey** · 10-04-2005, 05:29 AM

Interesting, I always viewed Silicone Image as the bargain basement solution, in fact I still do, their stuff is super cheap and doesn't match up performance wise to the competition. I think it's become so wide spread though that using it allows people to migrate their RAID stripes from other Mobos with little performance problems.

The so called RAID 5 they implemented has no separate XOR engine for calculations, so that load goes on the CPU as well. In fact I bet M$ soft raid 5 is better/more easily migrated.

Anyhow, Sil RAID will never be a selling point for me, I might buy a board despite it's presence and just turn it off.

UnG

**cantankerous** · 10-04-2005, 05:44 AM

well it was rumoured that the promise variant was to be used on the new revision. There is even pictures of the board with the promise chip but at the last minute they seem to have changed this.

**Scroatdog** · 10-04-2005, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by cantankerous

well it was rumoured that the promise variant was to be used on the new revision. There is even pictures of the board with the promise chip but at the last minute they seem to have changed this.

Im sure it had nothing(everything) to do with $$$

**cantankerous** · 10-04-2005, 10:37 AM

In the end I don't see how as the end user ends up paying for any inflated costs anyhow. DFI should know people are going to buy their boards regardless so what is an extra $5 if that for a different and better sata chipset?

**s7e9h3n** · 10-04-2005, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by cantankerous

oh

, no way! Cant use the fan I take it? I would never be able to do this as I have the ATI Silencer on card covering the chipset sink completely. The new revision seems to have more space to accomodate. How are the temps witht he 159 in comparison to the stock fan? Thanks for the picture however, very interesting.

I also see you don't have the molex plugged into the board. You find the board still runs fine this way?

Nope, can't use the stock fan, but I can use the fan outta my crystal orb chipset cooler. It's basically a frameless 40mm? fan and I can mount it on the swifty's side. If I had my camera with me, I'd take a pic, but I don't. Temps are MUCH better than stock. For awhile, I was thinking that this solution wasn't as good as my spire chipset cooler, but after giving the spire a go again, this one is better hands down.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure that the next dfi doesn't have a promise controller, or I would have heard about it through a contact @ Promise Tech

EDIT: I forgot to add, yes I run without any of the extra connectors since I'm using a single card. When the extra plugs are utilized, they end up harming performance more than helping....

**Harshal** · 10-04-2005, 12:34 PM

I am not sure but, too bad as Expert may have been delayed by a week or two. Chief "Oskar" may want to have a final look it seems.

**s7e9h3n** · 10-04-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by harshal

I am not sure but, too bad as Expert may have been delayed by a week or two. Chief "Oskar" may want to have a final look it seems.

Hmmmm, I didn't hear about that. OPB talked to Oskar just last week and eta was still ~Oct.15....

**cantankerous** · 10-04-2005, 01:06 PM

weird cause here in canada at ncix.com it is available to order now. Ships within 2 days.

**TransNone13** · 10-04-2005, 04:33 PM

NCIX is lying. I "ordered" it too. It says 2-5 days, but I think that's bull

. The marketing guy said 2-3weeks.

**jermaink** · 10-05-2005, 04:12 AM

Although this board isn't really revolutionary, it does seem like a good refresh product.

I like the wider space between the graphics card PCIe slots, because it looks like I could fit 2 graphics cards with an Arctic Cooling Silencer (or Zalman VF700) for better & quieter cooling.

Also, the placement of the northbridge looks like I could replace the chipset HSF with a Zalman NB47J, to eliminate that siren noise on bootup. Anyone know/think that putting a NB47J would still be too big to fit with graphics cards in both (upper looks potentially problematic) slots?

I wonder though abou the placement of the CPU. I know that many new cases have their exhausts, both rear and top, near the top-back of a case and I'm wondering whether the top-front placement of the CPU in this design would affect temperatures.

The 8 pin power connector could potentially be a compatibility problem for many PSUs. Can anyone confirm that Seasonic S12 600W PSUs have the 8 pin connector?

Finally, I hope they sorted out the issues which they had with the previous boards. Such as compatibility/overclocking with Corsair RAM, and the hit and miss success with Seasonic S12 power supplies. If they can achieve these things, then this board will be the benchmark until a new chipset series is released.

**tomati** · 10-05-2005, 04:30 AM

S12 has well the 8pin connector , but be aware about the boot trouble they have with the old nf4 design , don't know if this one has been resolved that but I hope so because I have the s12 500w .

**FireDragon** · 10-05-2005, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by wai-wai

one more pic.....

That is the SAME exact board as the CF board that they are cooming oiut with same mem placment and spacing and all the only diff is the nb on them and the bios that is kinda cheap same VTT voltage regs and all...

Dragon

**Eldonko** · 10-05-2005, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by TransNone13

NCIX is lying. I "ordered" it too. It says 2-5 days, but I think that's bull

. The marketing guy said 2-3weeks.

NCIX always skus stuff super early. I guess it is smart on their part to secure some pre orders but don't expect to get anything from them before anywhere else. Last time I pre ordered from there, it was shipped a week after several other stores had the product in stock.

**TransNone13** · 10-05-2005, 06:59 AM

Lol, thanks for the heads up. I'll probably cancel soon.

**Lood007** · 10-05-2005, 11:37 AM

I wish oskar would come back to the boards. Haven't seen him in a while.

**mrlobber** · 10-05-2005, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by FireDragon

same VTT voltage regs and all...

Do you think these boards will suffer from the VTT tracking problems (like the original DFI nF4) as well?

**J-Mag** · 10-05-2005, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Interesting, I always viewed Silicone Image as the bargain basement solution,

Freudian Slip?

Sounds like a great name for a Strip Club actually.

**Tony** · 10-05-2005, 03:20 PM

Regarding cold bugs and drive strength resistors, there is a lot you guys do not know. I posted bios pics of the ati reference boards a while back and it showed 7 levels of dram drive. The reason for 7 levels is to accomodate from strong drive to weak drive with various levels inbetween.

Reason for this

As you chill the cpu the memory controller drive strength increases, so the colder it gets the more you over drive the memory. So you have to weaken the drive to the ram....weaker drive= higher fsb at colder temps.

Im working on a new article that will explain just what is happening wth the new breed of motherboard and why they clock ram so well etc.
Just adding juice to get a higher overclock really does not cut it any more, the science of overclocking got a whole lot more complex in the past 18 months and the results of these new motherboards is the huge ram clocks you are seeing now.

PS it helped AMD put the MCH on the cpu die also a little

**Tony** · 10-05-2005, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by FireDragon

That is the SAME exact board as the CF board that they are cooming oiut with same mem placment and spacing and all the only diff is the nb on them and the bios that is kinda cheap same VTT voltage regs and all...

Dragon

I don't see oskar making the same mistake twice..i will have a board soon and will measure it.

**tomati** · 10-05-2005, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tony

I don't see oskar making the same mistake twice..i will have a board soon and will measure it.

I hope so , waiting for your test.

**zoom314** · 10-05-2005, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Enz0

23200 yen

No wonder I didn't see the 8pin power connector, It's in Black on a Black motherboard next to the 24pin connector.

On the subject of 8pin power supplies, SuperMicro has a 645w psu with a 24, 8 and 4 pin connector and +12v @ 46Amps, It's a psu that SM recommends at the very least for My H8DCE motherboard and in November I'm getting one for either $105.08 or $128.94 delivered. I currently have an eg651p-ve fm(550w, +12v @ 36Amps) Enermax and It has all 3 connectors too.

And I have $40.00 all saved to help get It next month.

**mrlobber** · 10-05-2005, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

guys check zipzooomfly in the USA they finally have the new ati crossfire boards listed officaly. So could be ready to ship at any time.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=246501
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=246500

Still can't figure out, what's the difference between the two boards (except that one is named Lanparty whereas the other - Lanparty UT)?

And what about the rumored CF-BT (bigtoe

) board? Was that just a joke or what?

**Scroatdog** · 10-05-2005, 11:14 PM

Since they have the 8-pin power connector, why the hell is there still a floppy connector on the board????? Or do you guys think that's just a fan header??

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