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[jjcom]

I don't believe so, there might be the directory left in Programfiles with your node file and a few others settings. (which you could delete) If you were to decide to uninstall D2OL.

Now if you decide to continue to run, then every 6 hours (or if you click on manual update) it will upload all the work you've done so far and download more work. The other sticky's in this section talk about this more

jjcom

[bullet2urbrain]

who can tell me a way to update the "cands" i have without being connected to the internet.. i have some crunching power than i can use but i dont have a way to hook them up to the intarweb. cuz i would be putting them under my bed... and let them cruch 24/7 all day and night from now till whenever then take and upload the massive amount..i figure about 65 a day from each.. and i stand to get ~3.. if possible.

but i need to know if there is a file saved on the HDD every 6 hrs with the amount of cands crunched?


Thanks... also good to be back @ Max capacity.

[Martijn]

Maybe this question was posted before, but I don't want to search trough all 14 pages...

My question is:
How will an old P3 500 perform? I was thinking of letting it run 24/7, as my 820D is now doing that. I just want to lower the energy bills... If it's no use adding this one, I might not be running 24/7 all the time any more...

EDIT:
My account doesn't calculate the average time taken for a candidate. Now that is'nt such a problem, but is there anything to fix here?

[gearhead]

who can tell me a way to update the "cands" i have without being connected to the internet.. i have some crunching power than i can use but i dont have a way to hook them up to the intarweb. cuz i would be putting them under my bed... and let them cruch 24/7 all day and night from now till whenever then take and upload the massive amount..i figure about 65 a day from each.. and i stand to get ~3.. if possible.

but i need to know if there is a file saved on the HDD every 6 hrs with the amount of cands crunched?


Thanks... also good to be back @ Max capacity.

You could set them up to download 2000 cands each and then dump them when they are all crunched. there is probably a file or folder where they are stored that you could transfer to a connected machine.... not really sure someone should know

[jjcom]

Maybe this question was posted before, but I don't want to search trough all 14 pages...

My question is:
How will an old P3 500 perform? I was thinking of letting it run 24/7, as my 820D is now doing that. I just want to lower the energy bills... If it's no use adding this one, I might not be running 24/7 all the time any more...

EDIT:
My account doesn't calculate the average time taken for a candidate. Now that is'nt such a problem, but is there anything to fix here?

The P3 500 probably wouldn't do awhole lot...probably 10daily if you ran it 24/7

[Martijn]

The P3 500 probably wouldn't do awhole lot...probably 10daily if you ran it 24/7

Yeah, I was already expecting that, but maybe I can get 3 of them

[MeTsU]

Hi,

I'm very keen on getting started up and being part of the XS D2OL Team. My problem is, that I sit behind a HTTP proxy. I've installed the package created by Rodzilla at (http://xsjeff.canyonlake.net/Rodzilla/XSsoft.htm). I've got a P4 650HT Laptop, so I downloaded the 2x version. I work at a school here in the U.K, that's why I'm behind a proxy.

The Proxy address: xxx.xx.xx.x
Port : xxxx

I then obviously have a username and password. Now, my problem is, that I can't seem get it to work. Could someone give me a hand?

Many thanks,

Matt

[MeTsU]

Ok, unofrtunately, I rebooted my rig by mistake and now the little icon that was in the taskbar has dissapeared. I remember seeing somewhere that you had to stop cetain services an then restart them, but I can't remember the list.

[MeTsU]

Oh, also, I'm not sure if there's supposed to be two instances of the taksbar icon running, I guess that's because of me installing the 2x version, seeing that I have a HT Proccessor.

[Jupiler]

Nope, the taskbar icons dissapear after you rebooted your rig.
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL and check if the processes, which I told you about, are running.
You're running 2 instances, so there should be 2x Dockwin.exe, 2x srvany.exe and 2x D2OL.exe in the processes.

[MeTsU]

Nope, the taskbar icons dissapear after you rebooted your rig.
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL and check if the processes, which I told you about, are running.
You're running 2 instances, so there should be 2x Dockwin.exe, 2x srvany.exe and 2x D2OL.exe in the processes.

Yea, I've killed them and now gone to the folders (D2OL1/2) loaded up the D2OL.exe files from both. But my problem remains, how do I tpye in the information for my proxy?

[Vapor]

I installed the rodzilla 2 node package....how do I change (or even view) the settings for my two nodes as they're currently services? Whenever I try to open the GUI, nothing happens.

[Vapor]

bumps

[[XC] Duc]

I installed the rodzilla 2 node package....how do I change (or even view) the settings for my two nodes as they're currently services? Whenever I try to open the GUI, nothing happens.

One method is to start your rig in "Safe mode", go to the D²OL folder and start it up manually... it will appear in the taskbar so you can change settings. Reboot and it will start as a service again with the changed settings.

Without a restart, just kill all the services that D²OL depends on, go to the D²OL folder and start it up manually... again it will appear in the taskbar so you can change settings. Reboot and it will start as a service again with the changed settings.

[Vapor]

Thanks Duc!

[Vapor]

Alright, not really a question, more of a request.....

I think it would be a cool thing if we had a thread with info regarding how much to expect from a system/processor with a simple approximation equation to estimate how much your rig can produce....for instance, my 2.65GHz X2 does 300 or so if dedicated. So one entry could be that a Toledo X2 does ~115Cands per GHz.

Just an idea as I really have ZERO clue how well my 2.4 Celly will do (I would know, but it's only been on for 4 hours now and it's 800Miles from me) and I feel other n00bs at this would also like some info like this so they know what to expect.

[Martijn]

Can't someone make a new thread of all output/cpu if dedicated? Saves a lot of questions, I think...

[caLume]

Can't someone make a new thread of all output/cpu if dedicated? Saves a lot of questions, I think...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=74952

[Martijn]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=74952

True, could've seen that one

[iq100]

I am tying to get a handle at hardware level of PCXXXX bandwidth versus timings, say 2-2-2-5 1T.

Many of us have seen the diagrams that show what is necessary to go thru a complete memory access.
i.e. [CAS]+[RAS-to-CAS Delay]+[Act-to-Precharge Delay]+etc. http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=873

My thinking is that the optimal PCXXXX speed number for a given memory stick, is just a matter of adding the appropriate timings a given memory stick is capable of, in terms of nanoseconds to complete the memory cycle, and then providing a memory clock rate, like 400 or 500 million ticks per second, which provides the proper total time for memory to complete its memory cycle. Since some sticks are shipped untested, we have to do the test ourselves. But, once the actual memory subtimings are known, the PCXXXX number should be a function of these?

Anyone have a formula, which if given the timings memory is capable (nanoseconds for each stage in the memory cycle), would "tell" the BIOS what the optimal number of ticks per cycle the memory should "see"?

If there were such a formula, that would focus on how the memory is built (gate delay times), rather than running "test programs", whether synthetic or real, then setting up memory paramaters would be easier.

I know that I am missing something here.
So much discussion on tight timings at PC3200 versus looser timings at higher PCXXXX. Basically if you know the absolute time that a memory requires for CAS, RAS-to-CAS Delay, etc, and add these up, you know how long memory is going to need to complete each random access. Then you could just run memory at a clock rate that provides this time??

Anyone understand, at the gate level, what this memory timings and PCXXXX is about? Something must be going on, that does not allow an easy optimal setting for the rate memory should be clocked at, by some "appropriate arithmetic" on the CAS, RAS-to-CAS, etc timings?

I have read a lot about looser timings at faster memory clock rates. If you are going to provide memory with more "ticks", but then set "looser timings by setting say CAS=2.5 or CAS=3 or higher, does that not bring you back to the same place you began? You are just counting more of the albeit faster memory clock ticks. The actual wall time of when the next memory sub-event occurs is the same!

Basically, is not adjusting timings and adjusting the rate memory is being clocked at, two ways of doing exactly the same thing?

Occams Razor, says why not one? Either a facility for changing the memory timing numbers (i.e the number of ticks a memory stick counts for the CAS stage, etc.) OR a facilitly for changing the number of ticks per second the memory controller provides to the memory stick? NOT BOTH!!

Note: In the above, when I say the CAS,RAS-to CAS, etc timings I know these are usually given in terms of clock ticks, but I am using the term timings in some of the above to mean the absolute time, I guess in nanoseconds, that each memory sub-function requires, to be stable.

Sorry for wasting everyone's time here, if this does not make any sense.

[Rodzilla]

^^^^^ you sure you have the right forum??? Does this have something to do with the D2Ol team?

[iq100]

^^^^^ you sure you have the right forum??? Does this have something to do with the D2Ol team?

Thanks for pointing this out.
So that is why I have had no response .

My mistake! Frankly I did NOT even know what the "D2OL" acronym was, and was too lazy to do the proper diligent research. I am so BAD/DUMB. Well maybe just perfectly average dumbness . Anyway I intended for the above post to be a general question about maximizing the performance of my AsROCK 939dualsata2 motherboard, and AMD 939 motherboards in general. Paradoxically, I see that some D2OL enthusiast do try to use D2OL code as a measurement of how fast their motherboards are performing.

I have read elsewhere that modern Graphic processors with so many pipes, both Nvidia and ATI, can run algorithms many times faster than the AMD and Intel processors. It can be difficult to find documentation on how to use the facilities inside these graphic processors for general computing use. That's commercialism at its worst. But it has been done, and results in several magnitudes of improved perfomance.

D2OL sounds pretty amazing. To me, even undoable. Imaging trying to succcessfully automate the process of designing a drug, while desinging an alogorithm for the automatic posting to the proper thread, based on keyword content has yet(?) to be accomplised. I was thinking of automated forum software where all "threads" would be dynamic. There would be no static threads per say. "Threads" would be created as you keyed in key words, in real time. Yes, it could be argued that in part of the SEARCH facility, already in place. But that does not quite work to eliminate the neeed for static threads, and does not create a thread, or rather incrementally create a thread of decreasing size as keywords are selected. Now I did it again ... this probably does NOT belong here.

Anway, back to reality. Have any real drugs come out of D2OL at a rate that that cannot be explained as more than a random success rate?

BTW, when I click on this Forum "Save Changes" button, after an edit, my processor goes to 50% for perhaps 30 seconds or a minute or more, during which time there is the "hour glass". This is XP-PRO SP2 on a well maintained DEll 400SC, P2.8 GHz, 1GB Ram. What algorithm could possibly be taking that time? My whole computer becomes barely useable until the Save Changes completes. Then everything return to normal which is near 0 CPU utilization. I hate to thing that posting here about D2OL ironically wastes so many CPU cycles. Anyone else experience that?

[WindForce]

Rod
Could you point me to your xs_d2ol easy installer? The one i have @ adventurevision does not work anymore...

EDIT: nvm, just found it

[Rodzilla]

Rod
Could you point me to your xs_d2ol easy installer? The one i have @ adventurevision does not work anymore...

Thanks

Click the bubble in my sig.

[JuanFlaiter]

I want to start crunching, but I want productivity and cheap.

I was thinking of a farm with microATX mobos & socket A Athlons... How much RAM do I need?