AMD's REAL answer to GeForce GTX 480: AIB Custom 5970s

[Nedjo]

I guess you missed the entire 295 Dual PCB launch, every card sold was at a loss on profits for NVIDIA.

any proof of that claim?

[FatAlbert]

nice chew

hmmm ,they are 60 mm width

[LedHed]

any proof of that claim?

http://www.techpowerup.com/?88367

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...le-pcb-review/

So why is this product replacing the dual-PCB version of the GTX 295 series then you ask? Well the answer is simple; cost control. The dual-PCB versions are being sold with little to no profit at all. And that's just not healthy business for any company.

[iboomalot]

sure like to water cool that monster

[zalbard]

sure like to water cool that monster

But what about the pretty heatsink that costs like 100$?!
Seriously, though, they should probably sell these with waterblock + pump + 240mm rad pre-made solutions or something.

[LedHed]

the picture in the OP is a render...

[Mungri]

Its pretty common knowledge that most Nvidia cards are very expensive to produce, and for once again since the ATI 9700 / 9800, ATI are stomping all over Nvidias backside.

Speed of the product isnt the only thing that matters, price to performance is much more important to many people.

[Chumbucket843]

Its pretty common knowledge that most Nvidia cards are very expensive to produce, and for once again since the ATI 9700 / 9800, ATI are stomping all over Nvidias backside.

Speed of the product isnt the only thing that matters, price to performance is much more important to many people.

then how come S3 graphics isnt doing better? their flagship card is on par with HD4670.

[cegras]

then how come S3 graphics isnt doing better? their flagship card is on par with HD4670.

Minimum threshold for acceptable performance?

[N19h7m4r3]

then how come S3 graphics isnt doing better? their flagship card is on par with HD4670.

If S3 brought out a card to give ATI and NV a surprise I'd buy it.

I loved my old S3 Savage 4.

Sadly it's not their market area anymore.

[onethreehill]

Asus Ares: HD 5970 done right - first benchmarks
At the Cebit Asus presents the Ares, a dual GPU card with two full-fledged HD 5870 GPUs which have access to 2 GiByte each - an overall VRAM amount 4 GiByte. This means that in contrast to the common HD 5970 the frequencies are not reduced. In difference to the Mars (Asus' dual GTX 285) the Ares won't be limited and is going to be produced and sold as long as there is a demand for the card. But given the expected price of 750 to 1000 Euros the card still transfers a feeling of exclusiveness.

In a first benchmark, 3DMArk Vantage Extreme, the card reached more than 14000 points in the Extreme setting (1920 x 1200 pixels 4x FSAA, a6x AF) - a real impressive results. For more details take a look at the pictures in our gallery below.......

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,7...nchmarks/News/

[metalop1g]

Wow that is a monster. People will sell those 10 years from now at like 5000$.

Are the mars sold out yet?

People will probably watercool theirs, so one might think the gigantic heatsinks are of no use. But just think what you can tool with this HS... an entire motherboard maybe?

They should put a piece of paper in the box with an ID that allows you to register on their site. When you register the card, you get special stuff.. banners,wallpapers, you ansert a short poll with questions about your hardware preferences and your uses for it. Then you can access the stats, like 15% will cool it with ln2 at least once.... would be nice

Now beware. because this card is pretty beaten-up. Hold your tears : this card is WAY crooked


It also is very high, and whoever said crap about the heatpipes being very small now needs to give apologies :


Finally, I wonder what the girl is thinking about... I can haz ares?

[ajaidev]

Wow that is a monster. People will sell those 10 years from now at like 5000$.

Are the mars sold out yet?

People will probably watercool theirs, so one might think the gigantic heatsinks are of no use. But just think what you can tool with this HS... an entire motherboard maybe?

They should put a piece of paper in the box with an ID that allows you to register on their site. When you register the card, you get special stuff.. banners,wallpapers, you ansert a short poll with questions about your hardware preferences and your uses for it. Then you can access the stats, like 15% will cool it with ln2 at least once.... would be nice

Now beware. because this card is pretty beaten-up. Hold your tears : this card is WAY crooked
[dG]http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1779/asusaresdualhd5870grafi.jpg[/IMG]

It also is very high, and whoever said crap about the heatpipes being very small now needs to give apologies :
[IwG]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1779/asusaresdualhd5870grafi.jpg[/IMG]

Finally, I wonder what the girl is thinking about... I can haz ares?
[IrG]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4575/asusaresgrafikkartedual.jpg[/IMG]

The card itself looks good, but the 8+8+6 is a bit much. I hope ATi may release a cheaper 8+8 card "as reference" which has lower ocing potential then this monster.

So since i can see no 5950 i assume its nt coming that can mean only one thing ATi will lower the prices of plain 5970 to counter fermi.

I do hope the GTX 470 is what its said to be i would not mind a 8+6 hog as long as i get some results..

[DragoonXX]

they still look like ~8mm pipes to me, can't be entirely sure, but the V8 in the background has 6mm pipes

[FlawleZ]

they still look like ~8mm pipes to me, can't be entirely sure, but the V8 in the background has 6mm pipes

How wide is the crossfire connector on the PCB? The pipe looks almost exactly half the width. I'm at work or I'd just measure one.

[damha]

How wide is the crossfire connector on the PCB? The pipe looks almost exactly half the width. I'm at work or I'd just measure one.

What? no! lol

The angle is throwing you off, looks like a standard heatpipe. Very similar to what you would find on a copper TRUE.

[Yvese]

I'm just glad that thing is shorter than the reference 5970. And a beast to boot!

[FlawleZ]

What? no! lol

The angle is throwing you off, looks like a standard heatpipe. Very similar to what you would find on a copper TRUE.

Actually no, its not throwing me off.

Would you agree we're at roughly ~60* angle from the plane of the PCB? And obviously the heatpipe is a cylinder so from any angle its equivalent to seeing on a flat plane. So then, I transformed the perspective of the PCB 30* to simulate ~90* and then cropped the heatpipe as is without transformation.

Doesn't that look close to half the size?



This isn't real exact, but close enough for speculation.

[Don_Dan]

If you can wait until Saturday I'll get you as many pics of the heatpipe as you want. *lol*

[FlawleZ]

Here's another shot:

If you can wait until Saturday I'll get you as many pics of the heatpipe as you want. *lol*

Now that's exciting!

[FlawleZ]

The angle is throwing you off, looks like a standard heatpipe. Very similar to what you would find on a copper TRUE.

Still think it looks like a standard heatpipe?

[zalbard]

Damn, the card looks absolutely stunning. I'd love to have one. If not the price...

[BababooeyHTJ]

In a first benchmark, 3DMArk Vantage Extreme, the card reached more than 14000 points in the Extreme setting (1920 x 1200 pixels 4x FSAA, a6x AF)

[Manicdan]

id like to see them test it with just one gpu, so we can see the effects of 2GB vs 1GB

[DragoonXX]

TRUE uses 6mm pipes, looks like pipe diameters are ~8mm (again, the coolermaster V8 cooling the proc has 6mm pipes)
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-4.html
directly also compares thicknesses of 6 and 8mm pipes