Larrabee - lets get naked!

[fellix_bg]

Mucho x86

[Shintai]

32 cores

[tenebre]

I will put this on my t-shirt. And it will make me irresitible to all nerdy girls

[Hornet331]

the core setup is rather interrestening:
1|2|2|3|1|1
4|4|4
1|2|2|4|1

[kl0012]

Can't wait to see some game benchmarks.

[Dragy2k]

how long til its out and about !!

[perkam]

Hopefully Nvidia will figure out a way to stay in the market after people start getting incentives to build AMD (AMD/ATI) only and Intel (Core/Larrabee) only systems.

Perkam

[Shintai]

how long til its out and about !!

Late this year, early next year. So sometime in the winter months.

Hopefully Nvidia will figure out a way to stay in the market after people start getting incentives to build AMD (AMD/ATI) only and Intel (Core/Larrabee) only systems.

Perkam

Its gonna hurt not only nVidia. But also AMD.

However it cant be fun to be nVidia. First you lose all chipsets/IGPs. Then someone comes and grab a good portion of your discrete card segment....ouch.

[Wrench]

Yeah I bet Larabee wuill hurt something. My Bananas.. Until I see REAL proof IE benchmarks I think this is about as exciting as the i740 intel graphics deaccelerator.

I just don't see all developers Jumping on the Larabee bandwagon, unless intel graphic drivers are superb. Frankly I never had any luck with the garbage drivers intel releases for their gimped/garbage 3d deaccelerators.

[rozzyroz]

larrabee has much more to offer then just graphics power....

i predict amd going down this route as well.. as of right now, a route nvidia wont be able to follow .

[saaya]

I will put this on my t-shirt. And it will make me irresitible to all nerdy girls

mmhhh you might wanna think twice if thats really what you want...
and itll also attract male nerds who will "try" to socialize with you

the core setup is rather interrestening:
1|2|2|3|1|1
4|4|4
1|2|2|4|1

rather messy to use other words

Late this year, early next year. So sometime in the winter months.

id say cebit time, same time as gt300

Its gonna hurt not only nVidia. But also AMD

it depends... drivers, pricing...

However it cant be fun to be nVidia. First you lose all chipsets/IGPs. Then someone comes and grab a good portion of your discrete card segment....ouch.

if larrabee is really as fast as intel claims, intel will be eating into nvidias market share from the top and ati from the bottom... might be interesting...

and thank god for no more nvidia chipsets... although it IS a shame... they could have come up with an x58 competitor that has lower qpi multipliers to allow higher bclocks... 250 bclock on air would have been quite nice...

[saaya]

larrabee has much more to offer then just graphics power....

i predict amd going down this route as well.. as of right now, a route nvidia wont be able to follow .

heh, youve just proven how effective marketing can be
you dont know a thing about intels nvidias or atis future product but already made up your mind based on the marketing those companies have seeded

[ownage]

larrabee has much more to offer then just graphics power....

i predict amd going down this route as well.. as of right now, a route nvidia wont be able to follow .

It better be, otherwise I'm not interested. Intel vga drivers for current generations simply suck for playing games.

[Donnie27]

It better be, otherwise I'm not interested. Intel vga drivers for current generations simply suck for playing games.

It sucking had NOTHING to do with drivers, it's weak Hardware. I've never had any problems with Intel's IGP Drivers. Or even the integrated ATI rage drivers that Intel shipped, I can't say the same for nVidia, SIS and or VIA

[Manicdan]

from the data i saw on the wiki by intel. 25 cores was needed to keep FEAR at 1680x1050 with 4xaa. that was at 1ghz too, so i wonder if they produce this at the actual 2.4ghz with 32 cores, it could be quite close to ati and nvidia top offerings. however i also saw the chip was supposedly 49mmx49mm, just massive in die size. so i guess its really gonna be interesting to see theoretical costs and benchmarks.

[clonez]

i heard ~600mm², probably more

[Helmore]

heh, youve just proven how effective marketing can be
you dont know a thing about intels nvidias or atis future product but already made up your mind based on the marketing those companies have seeded

Does AMD(ATI) do marketing? I barely knew .

[RVWinkle]

Intel will not release regular driver updates. That is not a software development model that they will be able to integrate into their business. Imagine what kind of performance you will get out of year old video drivers.

[AffenJack]

Its gonna hurt not only nVidia. But also AMD.

However it cant be fun to be nVidia. First you lose all chipsets/IGPs. Then someone comes and grab a good portion of your discrete card segment....ouch.

Will it really hurt amd and nvidia? Gt300 and rv870 will hurt high-performance computing with the cpu. Cpus will become less important, so intel really needs a product against it. Intel will get market share, but the market should grow fast with opencl. I don't think Larrabee will be a good choice for gamers, but it will be strong in gpgpu.

if larrabee is really as fast as intel claims, intel will be eating into nvidias market share from the top and ati from the bottom... might be interesting...

Intel eating nvs market share from the top??? Never heard intel claiming this. All comments i heard are that it's a performance chip, so first it has to beat rv870.

[.Tret]

Intel will not release regular driver updates. That is not a software development model that they will be able to integrate into their business. Imagine what kind of performance you will get out of year old video drivers.

Where is the proof to that? Intel releases new drivers for their integrated vga about every couple weeks.

[BuBBle.D]

Can someone please enlighten me. Is this larrabee supposed to be a high-end GPU or an "improved" integrated GPU in a motherboard?

[Shintai]

Can someone please enlighten me. Is this larrabee supposed to be a high-end GPU or an "improved" integrated GPU in a motherboard?

Its a GPGPU. But it will also be used as IGP in a CPU later on. Think something like 4-8 cores in IGP. 8-32 Cores in discrete GFX card. (Larrabee cores).

Will it really hurt amd and nvidia? Gt300 and rv870 will hurt high-performance computing with the cpu. Cpus will become less important, so intel really needs a product against it. Intel will get market share, but the market should grow fast with opencl. I don't think Larrabee will be a good choice for gamers, but it will be strong in gpgpu.

LOL! Ye and CUDA and CTM already made the CPU so obsolete. They are both useless.

RV870/GT300/Larrabee is still an utter joke for generel computing. Larrabee would be by large portions the fastest of the 3 in those terms. And we talk about Atom performance.

I dont think RVxxx/GTxxx can do even 5% of what a CPU can. RVxxx/GTxxx are very fast at a very very limited amount of things. They are DSP type chips. Even Cell can do much more than those 2.

[ownage]

It sucking had NOTHING to do with drivers, it's weak Hardware. I've never had any problems with Intel's IGP Drivers. Or even the integrated ATI rage drivers that Intel shipped, I can't say the same for nVidia, SIS and or VIA

I don't know. Some new games run fine on my x3100 and some old games run like crap. OpenGL performance is piss poor from what I've experienced.
Technically the hardware sucks off course.

I really have no high expectations from the first Larrabee generation.
Display drivers from AMD and nVidia both have about the same amount of code that Windows XP has. That's allot. Considering Intel doesn't have any good drivers at this moment with good game support, I don't think they will manage to make one within the first year ofter the Larrabee release.

[Zucker2k]

I don't know. Some new games run fine on my x3100 and some old games run like crap. OpenGL performance is piss poor from what I've experienced.
Technically the hardware sucks off course.

I really have no high expectations from the first Larrabee generation.
Display drivers from AMD and nVidia both have about the same amount of code that Windows XP has. That's allot. Considering Intel doesn't have any good drivers at this moment with good game support, I don't think they will manage to make one within the first year ofter the Larrabee release.

It's a good point, but Larrabee is a highstakes gamble for Intel and I'm sure they're going to do whatever they can to bring as much initial performance as possible. I think Intel is slowly but steadily taking over every performance segment of general computing with their hardware/implementation; ipc, ram bandwidth (1st generation imc implementation mind you), ssds in the io dept. and now gpgpu in graphics processing.

[vitaminc]

the core setup is rather interrestening:
1|2|2|3|1|1
4|4|4
1|2|2|4|1

kinda messy imo, was expecting something symmetrical. but the way they laid it out is probably impacted somewhat by switching inductance