Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: wu limit

  1. #1
    Xtreme Legend
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Plymouth (UK)
    Posts
    5,279

    wu limit

    Max 25 per thread there seems no way around it except maybe run two instances of Boinc or run VM's

    To run with networking off until the 16th you will need average wu completion time of around 4.8 hours or more... so which projects run that long for you ??

    Question: are normal non vina wu's better/faster on 64bit than 32bit os?


    My Biggest Fear Is When I die, My Wife Sells All My Stuff For What I Told Her I Paid For It.
    79 SB threads and 32 IB Threads across 4 rigs 111 threads Crunching!!

  2. #2
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Posts
    267
    CEP2 runs for quite a long time...generally 10+ hours
    MCM runs for 6+ hours on most of my systems (only exception is the Sandy i5s, since they are fast per-core and don't have HT)--even the Westmere system take 7 hours for them.
    WCG Rigs: 184 threads, mostly i7s

  3. #3
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    935
    I can easily abort all Autodock wu's using Boinctasks. But I don't like doing that. And the 25 wu's per thread don't last till morning anyway. (I actually only get 192 wu's max on the 8 thread machines)

    I will run only vina wu's or atleast as much as possible during the challenge and go back to MCM and UGM after that.

  4. #4
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    kingston.ma
    Posts
    2,139
    use cc_config to "simulate " any number of cpu cores using ...

    <ncpus>32</ncpus>


    then limit the number of concurrent tasks using app_config

    <app>
    <name>ugm1</name>
    <max_concurrent>8</max_concurrent>
    </app>


    known app names: 'mcm1', 'ugm1', 'cep2', 'fahv', 'faah'
    Last edited by Snow Crash; 11-12-2014 at 06:02 PM.

  5. #5
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    935
    Thanks. I will have a look at that.

  6. #6
    Xtreme Legend
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Plymouth (UK)
    Posts
    5,279
    I wish I had that info a week ago SC but I know it now


    My Biggest Fear Is When I die, My Wife Sells All My Stuff For What I Told Her I Paid For It.
    79 SB threads and 32 IB Threads across 4 rigs 111 threads Crunching!!

  7. #7
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    935
    It works. But you can only run one project. With ncpu @ 16 on a 4c/8t cpu it will run 16 wu's at once.
    Or you have set it back to default when it downloaded enough wu's.

  8. #8
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    kingston.ma
    Posts
    2,139
    It works. But you can only run one project.
    you can set up multiple apps in the config, you would just need to make sure you have enough WUs of each type to feed it properly.


    With ncpu @ 16 on a 4c/8t cpu it will run 16 wu's at once.
    that is why we make the app_config with max_concurrent, so you can limit the number = to the real number of threads (ie 4C/ 8T) you have
    <app>
    <name>ugm1</name>
    <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
    <name>mcm1</name>
    <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>

    </app>

    and yes, in this case, where the request is for a 1 time bump in the number of WU to cache you could set it, pull a bunch of work and then set it back. You only need to "advanced --> read config files" to activate changes in either or both cc_config (goes in main boinc data folder) and app_config (goes in wcg project folder).

  9. #9
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    935
    Thanks Snow Crash. I figured that out already.

    But the problem I had was that I had plenty of ugm1 wu's that had to finish and I had set the device profile to FAAH only (both autodock and vina)
    with 16 cpu's it would run 16 wu's and if limit it to 4 wu's for both in the app_config file it would run only 4 wu's when the ugm1 wu's were all finished.

    Now I have 2 crunchers that have plenty of wu's and back to 8 threads. And no network till sunday.

    That one cruncher that is allowed network communication is downloading work for 32 cores and only running fahv wu's.
    That faah wu's that get downloaded don't start because I set app_config to:
    <name>faah</name>
    <max_concurrent>-1</max_concurrent>

    That way I can abort these when I get home.

  10. #10
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    kingston.ma
    Posts
    2,139
    nice enhancement on using -1 for faah

  11. #11
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    935
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Crash View Post
    nice enhancement on using -1 for faah
    0 didn't work and I had seen the -1 in cc_config. Tried it and it worked.

    Now the crunchers can run overnight without faah wu's starting.

  12. #12
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    5,152
    One note - you don't want to run it though with BOINC thinking you have more cores than you actually do. It forces your CPU into cache swapping which hurts efficiency. Good trick to get more WUs though.

    Also, you can always connect and DL more, just set your upload limit to 1kb/s and manually update. You'll get a bunch of WUs before a single one finishes the upload.


    24 hour prime stable? Please, I'm 24/7/365 WCG stable!

    So you can do Furmark, Can you Grid???

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •