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    Info on new intel 8 and 6 core processors


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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcatrp View Post
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    Looks like the standard 300/500/999 pricing scheme to me. Time to buy new board/cpu/mem for my work PC. Xeon W3520 (i920)/classified/12gb Gskill has lasted 5+ years on same water and pumps. I think this new gen under water should take me to 2020, weird. Are there boards with this socket being tested yet? Coolaler?
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    Anyone knows if the upcoming X99 chipset for Haswell-E Core i7-5960X Extreme Edition will have the same layout as the old X79 regarding memory slots and quad channel or dual channel memory DDR4 configuration/Layout ? I'm expecting a big overhaul on this new upcoming chipset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcape View Post
    Looks like the standard 300/500/999 pricing scheme to me.
    Same pries as with Ivy-E yes, but much bigger performance difference between the 500 and 999 chip, so essentially its 999 or bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naokaji View Post
    Same pries as with Ivy-E yes, but much bigger performance difference between the 500 and 999 chip, so essentially its 999 or bust.
    To start with, yes. However, when i7-5960X demand drops, Intel will release a neutered 8-core at a lower price point, slotting it in between the i7-5960X and the i7-5930K. Intel will be looking to "encourage" folks who want an 8-core to buy the pricier EE and withholding the cheaper 8-core initially ensures there remains only one 8-core option at launch. Folks who want an 8-core will have no option except to buck up (or settle in for a lengthy wait). The neutered version will either have reduced cache, fewer PCI-E lanes or possibly both. What it'll be called is anyone's guess.

    I'd expect to see this chip in Q1 or Q2 of next year (depends on how demand holds out for the i7-5960X).
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    Hmm I see many people say he need 8 core desktop cpu from Intel.
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    Never thought the day would come we'd see an 8-core desktop CPU from Intel Now whether to keep the 3930K or wait for the 5960X...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyFire View Post
    Never thought the day would come we'd see an 8-core desktop CPU from Intel Now whether to keep the 3930K or wait for the 5960X...
    Yeah, especially considering that they could have easily given us an 8-core back at the end of 2011 when Sandy Bridge-E launched. It's been a very long wait...

    Hopefully, the product of this long wait will be that the long-suffering enthusiast finally has the choice between overclocking the i7 Extreme Edition, or bucking up for overclocking a truly monsterous high core count Xeon (if Intel decides to unlock the CPUs). I continue to pray that they do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lutjens View Post
    Yeah, especially considering that they could have easily given us an 8-core back at the end of 2011 when Sandy Bridge-E launched. It's been a very long wait...

    Man you and I both have been in that same thought train for years...crazy 3 years later it FINALLY is happening. Despite knowing, it's still disheartening to see the only 8-core is $1k.

    What shocks me most is the little difference between the $300 and $500 models.

    A) who's going to want a 4-core core haswell refresh/devil's canyon at $300 when they can have 6 cores for the same price?
    B) $200 more for only a speed bump the -E line seems weird. Its always been cache too. Who's going to buy the $500 i7-5930K when you can just OC the $300 i7-5820K? There has to be more..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    A) who's going to want a 4-core core haswell refresh/devil's canyon at $300 when they can have 6 cores for the same price?
    They might still make it a 4-core chip...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    They might still make it a 4-core chip...
    the 5820k might still be a 4core? Most news I've read said it was 6?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    the 5820k might still be a 4core? Most news I've read said it was 6?
    Given that the sources are unofficial, that is possible (albeit unlikely).

    Also, the same rumours indicate that 5820k will be 20% more expensive than 4820K, which means a price of around $390.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcatrp View Post
    If the price is exact for the 5960X, i find it lower of what i was expect.. Ofc, if this is the retail price..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatRaceTin View Post
    Hmm I see many people say he need 8 core desktop cpu from Intel.
    You hit the nail on the head. I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trans am View Post
    You hit the nail on the head. I was thinking the exact same thing.
    Everyone's needs are different....what's one person's overkill is another person's underpowered piece of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Given that the sources are unofficial, that is possible (albeit unlikely).

    Also, the same rumours indicate that 5820k will be 20% more expensive than 4820K, which means a price of around $390.

    I'd still gladly pay $390 for a 6core haswell w.o an igpu. I was already thinking I would never drop $1k on a CPU but then I thought why not invest in the x99 platform now with the lowest end sku, which is still pretty powerful, and upgrade when the 8-core trickles down from the X line or maybe w. Broadwell-E.

    I keep seeing people judge others for wanting an 8-core Intel cpu. Who are you to judge? Do just assume everyone is a gamer? Of all forums this was the last place I thought people would care...I shoot and edit video for a living. My work is slowly becoming 4k heavy and I want and NEED all the threads I can get, thank you very much! Premiere Pro loves um.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    I'd still gladly pay $390 for a 6core haswell w.o an igpu. I was already thinking I would never drop $1k on a CPU but then I thought why not invest in the x99 platform now with the lowest end sku, which is still pretty powerful, and upgrade when the 8-core trickles down from the X line or maybe w. Broadwell-E.

    I keep seeing people judge others for wanting an 8-core Intel cpu. Who are you to judge? Do just assume everyone is a gamer? Of all forums this was the last place I thought people would care...I shoot and edit video for a living. My work is slowly becoming 4k heavy and I want and NEED all the threads I can get, thank you very much! Premiere Pro loves um.
    Often, it's people who can't afford the more expensive chips trying to make themselves feel better. They feel that if they can't have it, no one else should have it either. Other times, it's people who think that every other enthusiast is just like them and therefore has the same needs/wants.

    I don't want an 8-core CPU...I want an unlocked 18-core, dual-capable chip...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    I keep seeing people judge others for wanting an 8-core Intel cpu. Who are you to judge? Do just assume everyone is a gamer? Of all forums this was the last place I thought people would care...I shoot and edit video for a living. My work is slowly becoming 4k heavy and I want and NEED all the threads I can get, thank you very much! Premiere Pro loves um.
    OT, but just curious: isn't your workload becoming more GPU accelerated these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    OT, but just curious: isn't your workload becoming more GPU accelerated these days?
    Transcoding, exporting of video and quick previews are being more and more accelerated by the GPU. But the CPU still plays a huge role when compositing and handling of layers and different sounds and scenes being spliced together.

    Essentially by having more CPU cores and at a higher speed you'll experience less slowdowns and visible lagginess when traversing your video timeline and adding new content in to the time line. The way GPU's are being utilised is still mostly in its infancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    the 5820k might still be a 4core? Most news I've read said it was 6?
    The 5820K is the same chip as the 5930K, except that it's clocked a bit slower and 16 PCI-E lanes have been snipped, leaving it with only 24 (still better than the mainstream platform though).

    The 5820K will make the choice between the 2011 platform and the mainstream 1150 platform much more difficult for some people, given it's extra two cores and additional performance features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lutjens View Post
    Everyone's needs are different....what's one person's overkill is another person's underpowered piece of crap.
    Exactly. If you talk to non-extreme people, everyone says Sandybridge is enough. Heck, I'm still holding onto mine since it does the job! But I will say this, it is showing it's age and 8 cores in a non-server chip is long overdue. When AMD came out with octocores, I figured intel would at least start pushing 8 core sooner for 2011 & maybe even hear of a possible 6 core for 1155/1150. I guess we're seeing slight after effects of AMD's current inability to compete, clock for clock or 8 core vs 4 core +HT.

    I've been discussing upgrading my g/fs PC even while we were putting together her z77 rig (no wonder she tells me to slow down with upgrades). 6 core vs haswell feels anemic in terms of actual performance, looking at the current situation. She's unwilling to pay $999 for a cpu & I can't blame her. $600/$750 might be the magic number if it's a non EE chip that still OCs well. Then again, when we she was asking what xeons were running for 8core + and E5 chips (LOL), I started quoting 8 and 10 core running $1000 to $1500 w/ low clocks (2.2ghzish) & no OC option (or limited); it wasn't worth the cost to her as she wants to OC & would rather have a 4.5ghz+ 8core.

    People who want 8 cores & have deep pockets will have these bad boys. Those who can't afford it or are unwilling to pay that much should wait one generation for intel to release at least a second lower end quad. Remember when the Q6600 was all the rage b/c of performance price of that shrink? I doubt we'll see that kind of enthusiasm & awesomeness, but something similar could occur if there's an 8 core for $450.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicey View Post
    Transcoding, exporting of video and quick previews are being more and more accelerated by the GPU. But the CPU still plays a huge role when compositing and handling of layers and different sounds and scenes being spliced together.

    Essentially by having more CPU cores and at a higher speed you'll experience less slowdowns and visible lagginess when traversing your video timeline and adding new content in to the time line. The way GPU's are being utilised is still mostly in its infancy.
    Exactly. Seems like if you want to check your editing, you still need the cpu to do transcoding on the fly. There doesn't seem to be any GPU support (correct me if I'm wrong, that isn't my field) or it's extremely limited.
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    Core i7-5960X 8 / 16 3 GHz 20 MB DDR4-2133 140W


    Anyone else cringing at this base clock of 3 GHz?

    This makes me worry that the 5960X isnt going to overclock as well as the 5930K will. My app load is split 50/50 when it comes to single core and multithread apps. Last thing I want is a 1000+$ 8 core cpu that cant go over 4.2GHz. for 1k$ the extreme cpu should have little to no compromise.

    when the 980 came it out it not only did it have 2 more cores than everything it was also the highest base clock
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    Pretty disappointing that the 5960x is clocked lower than its smaller siblings, the Xeon E5 2687w has a slightly higher clock at 3.1Ghz and is based on 32nm compared to the 5960x which is based on 22nm which doesn't really make sense if Intel wanted to keep the TDP lower.
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    This one lists 3.5Ghz:



    Likely irrelevant if you look at past history of SB vs SB-E and IB vs IB-E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    This one lists 3.5Ghz:



    Likely irrelevant if you look at past history of SB vs SB-E and IB vs IB-E.

    remind me what happened there please
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