NVIDIA GTX 595 (picture+Details)

[[XC] hipno650]

I don't see why you guys are so boxed-in with your thinking... The TDP "limit" is just a cooling limitation at this point. There's no technical reasons why a 3rd 6pin or 8pin connector can't be added, if need be. If one sets a dedicated loop up for his video card, then one can easily remove upwards of 300w from a single block.

adding extra connectors is easy, the thing that bring up this magical 300watt limit is the PCI-E regulations for power usage. 300watts is the max even though more is entirely possible buy adding more connectors.

This type of card is possible, but i doubt it would be full GTX 580's it is possible they use full 512sp parts but down-clock them substantially. however i think that we would end up seeing a pair of Down-clocked 480sp parts. also remember that this will use less power because of one PCB which saves a good bunch of power. also other improvements can be made, undervloting parts and the like. also if they keep with the vapor chamber cooler I think they could cool a dual 570 card just as well as the 5970...

people seem to think Antilles is possible but this is not. i don't really get that. lets get real this is not a full dual 580 just like the 295 was not a dual 285...

[LAMB OF GOD]

is it possible that we see a dual 470gtx or gf114x2 ...
cause as most r concerned and nvidia has never brought a gpu which is a pair of its top notch chips ... gtx295 was also never a 2x285gtx ...
may be another contender can be 2x570gtx ...
but making a 2x580gtx doesnt make sense from marketing point of view ... a pair of downclocked 512sp chips which will be giving enventually the horsepower equal to 2x488 sp chips then y use a full gf110???
apart from that ... can a vapour chamber cooling handle a 400w+ combo with a dual slot width of cooler???
asus ares is a coustom built top of the line gpu not for mass production ... more of a art collection piece than every joez main gpu!
but lets hope ... 595gtx pushes the bounderies this time and we actually get a 1000$ gpu (or a 850$ in extreme case

[safan80]

asus ares is a coustom built top of the line gpu not for mass production

If that is true why can you buy it?

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CFUQ8wIwAg#

by definition the card was mass produced.

Mass production (also called flow production, repetitive flow production, series production, or serial production) is the production of large amounts of standardized products, including and especially on assembly lines.

[safan80]

is it possible that we see a dual 470gtx or gf114x2 ...
cause as most r concerned and nvidia has never brought a gpu which is a pair of its top notch chips ... gtx295 was also never a 2x285gtx ...
may be another contender can be 2x570gtx ...
but making a 2x580gtx doesnt make sense from marketing point of view ... a pair of downclocked 512sp chips which will be giving enventually the horsepower equal to 2x488 sp chips then y use a full gf110???
apart from that ... can a vapour chamber cooling handle a 400w+ combo with a dual slot width of cooler???

The ares is a 436w part http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES/29.html

the cooler works fine. scroll down in this link
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES/34.html

Nvidia was staying within pci-e spec and underclocked their dual gpus with full spec chips, but used bad cooling designs so the temps were high.

The whole point of the dual gpu setups is to target the high end market for those that want more power out of their gpus to run resolutions like mine of 2560x1600. That is why I own a 5970.

Saying it can't be done is different from can they actually do it. Nvidia could do it they would just need to put more R&D into getting it done right to meet the user's demands of the target segment.

[Sn0wm@n]

The ares is a 436w part http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES/29.html

the cooler works fine. scroll down in this link
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES/34.html

Nvidia was staying within pci-e spec and underclocked their dual gpus with full spec chips, but used bad cooling designs so the temps were high.

The whole point of the dual gpu setups is to target the high end market for those that want more power out of their gpus to run resolutions like mine of 2560x1600. That is why I own a 5970.

Saying it can't be done is different from can they actually do it. Nvidia could do it they would just need to put more R&D into getting it done right to meet the user's demands of the target segment.

and the ares isnt a refference model ...


so???

[LAMB OF GOD]

@safan thankx bro for the correction
but what about the other part ...

[LAMB OF GOD]

@safan thankx bro for the correction
but what about the other part ...

[clayton]

Looks like nVIDIA has intentions of breaking the power consumption record.

[systemviper]

me want one, or what the hell 2.....

[bamtan2]

it is ironic that there are people on this forum who own gtx 275, gtx 295, and do volt mods. yet the people in this thread are trying to wrap their brain around a dual gf110.

hello. just because a gtx 580 uses 240 watts doesn't mean two of those chips have to use 480 watts. nvidia can choose chips that run at lower voltages. nvidia can choose board components that use less power. they've done this before. gtx 295 does not use twice the power of gtx 275.

[Iconyu]

it is ironic that there are people on this forum who own gtx 275, gtx 295, and do volt mods. yet the people in this thread are trying to wrap their brain around a dual gf110.

hello. just because a gtx 580 uses 240 watts doesn't mean two of those chips have to use 480 watts. nvidia can choose chips that run at lower voltages. nvidia can choose board components that use less power. they've done this before. gtx 295 does not use twice the power of gtx 275.

This is true, but it is still a bit of a shock. We all knew that the higher end GT200's used a lot of power, but it was kinda drowned out by the release of the 480.

[hurrdurr]

2x580 wouldn't be 488W since a PCB is saved and that should shave off some power, to maybe around 450W.

Staying within the 300W limit would be suicide for dual 580s - just think, one 580 is 250W and if you downclock two 580's so that they consume a total of 300W, then you've gained only 50W worth of power in your card, PLUS all the negativities associated with SLI. It wouldn't be incredibly faster than a single 580 but would cost at least $800.

Sure, you can always "overclock" the GPUs to their normal clocks yourself, provided Nvidia puts enough PCIE power connectors. But still all review sites would do the review, naturally, at the stock clocks. The cards have to be insanely powerful at stock clocks for Nvidia to be able to market it as a card that's worth $800.

[cowie]

Why would you think they would use the 580 chip and not the 570 chip?
Rumor has it the 570 is a 480 that runs cooler and less power hungry, some say same as 470? so 22ow or so.
22oW meams the GTX 570 has almost the TDP than the GeForce GTX 275 (219W) and they made deulies at of that chip np.
all based on limited info on the 570 so just speculation on my part ofcoarse.

[cold2010]

http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/sh...postcount=1216

http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/sh...postcount=1217

[spursindonesia]

GT200b cards TDP is quite "different" with GF100 and subsequently GF110 cards TDP. While i won't put past nVidia's engineer ability to pull such a coup with this card, IMHO it would require a massive engineering effort, extreme binning, and most likely, drastic clock and/or units reduction.

[trans am]

does this mean ati 6900 series is so great that nvidia is going to extremes to keep up? or are they testing a new HW bot benching category for highest possible electric bill?
Massman?

[Johnny87au]

does this mean ati 6900 series is so great that nvidia is going to extremes to keep up? or are they testing a new HW bot benching category for highest possible electric bill?
Massman?

+1, the 570 now the 580, now the 595 lol ?? still waiting on barts XT.. i think its rumours!

[Aten-Ra]

It could be done with the following specs

2x GF110 chips
2x 480 Shaders @ 600MHz
2x 320-Bit memory and 2560MB

Max board power 289W

Performance could be the same as ~GTX470 SLI, but better performance in DX-11 tessellation due to 2 more polymorph engines

[Sn0wm@n]

It could be done with the following specs

2x GF110 chips
2x 480 Shaders @ 600MHz
2x 320-Bit memory and 2560MB

Max board power 289W

Performance could be the same as ~GTX470 SLI

so you think the thermal specs of 2 GF110 could be kept under 300watt or so at only 600mhz ????

[Aten-Ra]

so you think the thermal specs of 2 GF110 could be kept under 300watt or so at only 600mhz ????

I believe GTX570 with 480 Shaders (15x 32) and 320bit memory could have 210-220W Max Graphics card power usage, that’s the same as GTX275.

If they could make the GTX295 out of two GTX275, then they can make a dual GF110 card.

[zalbard]

It could be done with the following specs

2x GF110 chips
2x 480 Shaders @ 600MHz
2x 320-Bit memory and 2560MB

Max board power 289W

Performance could be the same as ~GTX470 SLI, but better performance in DX-11 tessellation due to 2 more polymorph engines

Way too low power consumption estimate.
Also, 2.5GB dual GF100 vs 4Gb Antilles looks weak... Especially since they are going to compete at 4MP+ resolutions.

[Chrono Detector]

If this card will really have dual GF110 chips, I wonder how much power it will consume, unless if NVIDIA really did pull of a miracle here and lowered the power consumption. Also, I wonder if this card will cost over $900 as well.

[Monkeyface]

Lets be logical here, there is no way NV would release a card with a $900 price tag in today's market, its just not feasible to have these insanely priced cards that target such a tiny part of the market, especially if there is anything that can remotely compete with it. If you want to price a card that much higher than anything else, it has to stand on its own in terms of performance and just overall quality, and even then 900 is absurd.

[Iconyu]

Owning the crown is reason enough, AMD have released more expensive gaming cards.

[Sn0wm@n]

Owning the crown is reason enough, AMD have released more expensive gaming cards.

owning the crown in 1% market means nothing when your competition is hammering the markets that matter the most .... but hey your right