I'll be interested to see what my 12-core machine with a 4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get.
I'll be interested to see what my 12-core machine with a 4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get.
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get is way to slow. only one Vertex ssd will beat it in win7 experience index
No its water cooling...Originally Posted by benko
I believe it is the 7200 RC version of Windows 7. Either way, they should rethink the test, but I guess if it was easy to get 7.9 everyone would get it and no one would strive to get better gear.
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Undoubtedly, but that wasn't really where I was going with that. Regardless of how other things perform in comparison, I'll be interested to see the numbers for the proposed hardware.4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get is way to slow. only one Vertex ssd will beat it in win7 experience index
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Maybe, maybe not, since those are only 147GB drives. 450GB cheetah drives are supposed to be much faster, with denser platters. As you know, 147GB drives are quite old..4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get is way to slow. only one Vertex ssd will beat it in win7 experience index
A Velociraptor cannot hold a candle to a 450GB 15k cheetah.
And I would not touch that vertex with a 10-foot pole. It might have some advantages, but the disadvantages still outweigh it for me.
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What exactly are the disadvantages of a vertex?
since I was going get 2 in Raid 0
The only thing I can think of is $/gb
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So far the only 7.9 HDD I've seen here was an Intel x25M.4x147GB 15K SAS RAID-10 will get is way to slow. only one Vertex ssd will beat it in win7 experience index
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What's your windows 7 score so far ?What exactly are the disadvantages of a vertex?
since I was going get 2 in Raid 0
The only thing I can think of is $/gb
Thank you for your niceWhat's your windows 7 score so far ?
My scores are:
7.8
7.9
6.1
6.1
5.9
excuse the low score of my gpus "It's only a 9800GX2"
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seems my graphics are doing well
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7.0
7.3
7.3
5.9
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From what I can gather a lot of this stuff is hard coded in. My 3.9Ghz e8400 got a 5.8 in Windows Vista. I rebenched when I downclocked it to 3.0 and I still got a 5.8 CPU.
My Ph2 720BE unlocked gets 7.4CPU in 7. So does my RAM. I would not be surprised if you have to have triple channel to get 7.9 RAM, and 8 cores to get 7.9.
Last edited by rancur; 07-02-2009 at 06:27 PM.
Its sad, that it takes something that sounds like a hyperbole to get a 7.9 in windows 7. E.g A core i7 on ln2 might sounds ridiculous but it sounds like 5 ghz core i7 is the way to go.
See how slow the real-world write tests are for the Vertex: http://techreport.com/articles.x/17136/7What exactly are the disadvantages of a vertex?
since I was going get 2 in Raid 0
The only thing I can think of is $/gb
HDTach is a synthetic benchmark, as techreport mentioned, and does not reflect real-world performance. Also, after it's been used for a while, performance degrades by orders of magnitude. I would still not yet consider SSD's to be reliable drives.. just yet. Some other huge disadvantages for me are: minute storage capacity, price, and more stuff in my already-crowded rigs.
Last edited by Bo_Fox; 07-02-2009 at 11:35 PM.
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you have to rerun it manually after you change anything for it to update the score
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He said he rebenched.
You have to delete the data files in \Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore to force it to record a new score.
I'm thinking that 6-core CPU @ 3-3.5GHz, 6 GB 1600MHz DDR3, High end DX11 GPU (5870/5890) and a good SSD will be enough.
Last edited by initialised; 07-04-2009 at 02:42 PM.
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I have single intel x25m ssd, I get 7.8.
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Perhaps a 6Core i7/i9 at 3.6Ghz+ would get close to 7.9 seeing as a 4.4Ghz i7 gets 7.7?
It is looking a lot like the current Gen processors cannot reach the hallowed 7.9, this sort of reminds me of when Vista first came out and nothing "Netburst" could reach 5.9, but then the Core2Quad came out and that changed everything.....
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What build of windows 7 are you running on, and what are the clocks of your "primary" card? The reason I'm asking is because I only get 6.5 with an HD 4850 1GB with build 7100.
New run with win 7 x64 on the two 60GB ssd in raid 0.
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