The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ShawnTRD]

Grnfinger I have the Common Performance Level now with the Rampage BIOS. Hows that differ from the Relax Level?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger I have the Common Performance Level now with the Rampage BIOS. Hows that differ from the Relax Level?

On rampage bios you can manually set PL level instead of maximus setting it for you, maximus relax level will raise or lower pl level depending on fsb/strap ect.

Rampage you can set regardless of fsb / strap to your liking, altho if you get it to low ( pL ) you will experience the det dram hang, this usally means your pL is set to low and you have to raise it accordingly.
Tony from OCZ did up a chart to explain all this along with a trd ( PL ) calculator.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...d.php?p=280385

Hope it helps explain it more clearly than I can

[OVERK|LL]

I think I have made it unhappy. It will now no longer run 3.6 at the previous settings...... Though it's hotter than hell in this room right now, which probably isn't helping things. It reboots under small FFT's in short-order, whereas before this was not an issue.

Could this be PL related?

[OVERK|LL]

OK, was able to get back to "page 2" of this saga. No reboots under small FFT's, but freezes/reboots under BLEND. I've said screw it for today and am back at 3.43Ghz rock stable.

[OVERK|LL]

I am taking over this thread! MWA-HAHAHAHHHAHA

But seriously, I tried something else:

Left EVERYTHING the EXACT same as I had it for 3.43 at 9x380
Changed it to 430x8
It has just passed BLEND no problem.

Maybe my CPU is just not comfortable (or the board?) at 3.6Ghz?

EDIT: The increase in FSB makes a huge difference in 3DMark! I went from 15,460 to 16,541!!!

[zlojack]

Well, I tried your settings Grnfinger, but no love

I think I might need to give the CPU some more volts, but I'm sitting at 1.36 right now with 4.2GHz in Windows, so I think I'll just go with that for my 24/7. I could get the 10GHz bandwidth, but the CPU was getting pretty hot and wanted more volts to get stable.

[ShawnTRD]

Hmmm
Seems that the wording of stuff Tony from OCZ used is different from ASUS BIOS. So I guess I have my homework to do.

[Grnfinger]

I am taking over this thread! MWA-HAHAHAHHHAHA

But seriously, I tried something else:

Left EVERYTHING the EXACT same as I had it for 3.43 at 9x380
Changed it to 430x8
It has just passed BLEND no problem.

Maybe my CPU is just not comfortable (or the board?) at 3.6Ghz?

EDIT: The increase in FSB makes a huge difference in 3DMark! I went from 15,460 to 16,541!!!

What are your NB temps like, if its hot enough you will lose stability.

Well, I tried your settings Grnfinger, but no love

I think I might need to give the CPU some more volts, but I'm sitting at 1.36 right now with 4.2GHz in Windows, so I think I'll just go with that for my 24/7. I could get the 10GHz bandwidth, but the CPU was getting pretty hot and wanted more volts to get stable.

4.2GHz is respectable
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

[OVERK|LL]

What are your NB temps like, if its hot enough you will lose stability.



4.2GHz is respectable
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

I don't recall them getting much over 60 under full load......... They are at 40C right now.

[zlojack]

4.2GHz is respectable
I ran 4.4GHz for 24/7 almost had a sub 10 sec superPI score

Nice!
I'm pretty pleased with 4.2 but we'll see. Maybe when the weather cools off a bit I'll try for that 4.4, but I'm not sure if my RAM will like the 489 FSB.

[Grnfinger]

I don't recall them getting much over 60 under full load......... They are at 40C right now.

60c on the NB full load?
there is where your problem is, I would look at lowering the temps alot

[OVERK|LL]

60c on the NB full load?
there is where your problem is, I would look at lowering the temps alot

That will likely involve some wonderful disassembly, as the fan I have on my RAM IS hitting the NB........

[Grnfinger]

That will likely involve some wonderful disassembly, as the fan I have on my RAM IS hitting the NB........

Have you reseated the NB with AS5 or Ceramique?
It lowerd my temps alot and I would recommend the extra effort if you have not done it yet, it is well worth the time.

[t_ski]

I bolted a 70mm fan from a stock AMD heatsink over the NB. It seems to have helped stability quite a bit, and temps are between the upper 30's and the lower 40's C.

[OVERK|LL]

No, I have not done that yet. But I really don't want to disassemble my system (AGAIN), so I may just say screw it and leave it at 3.45Ghz. It's happy here, NB is at 40C right now with both SETI and WCG running.

[OVERK|LL]

I bolted a 70mm fan from a stock AMD heatsink over the NB. It seems to have helped stability quite a bit, and temps are between the upper 30's and the lower 40's C.

That's what I have, a 70mm AMD fan, though 3/4 of it is covering my RAM.

[t_ski]

Mine is directly over the NB and not on the ram at all.

[Grnfinger]

That's what I have, a 70mm AMD fan, though 3/4 of it is covering my RAM.

3.45GHz is very respectable, the little bit gained going to 3.6 would be barely noticeable unless you benched, so if scores are not important dont worry and run it the way your happy.

[OVERK|LL]

Mine is directly over the NB and not on the ram at all.

My RAM is running at almost twice it's rated clock speed, so it gets hot.

[Cold Storm]

I just went water the other day, but I have found that now that I don't have any type of air flowing over it, it's just crazy temps on the NB. Later on tonight I'll be trying a Spot cooler... Before going water I had a Xigmatek S1284 with some delta 185cfm fans blowing threw the case.. But, the sound got so bad I went water.. Lol.. But, like I said I'll be trying the spot cooler later on tonight to see if I can get it under control... 56c isn't my favorite temp at 3.5...

[Grnfinger]

I just went water the other day, but I have found that now that I don't have any type of air flowing over it, it's just crazy temps on the NB. Later on tonight I'll be trying a Spot cooler... Before going water I had a Xigmatek S1284 with some delta 185cfm fans blowing threw the case.. But, the sound got so bad I went water.. Lol.. But, like I said I'll be trying the spot cooler later on tonight to see if I can get it under control... 56c isn't my favorite temp at 3.5...

Well now seeing as you went water might I recommend you invest a few dollars more and alittle time and grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108079

[OVERK|LL]

3.45GHz is very respectable, the little bit gained going to 3.6 would be barely noticeable unless you benched, so if scores are not important dont worry and run it the way your happy.

And I don't have to run any funky voltages on anything to get it stable at 3.45, everything is green in the BIOS and it passes both small FFT's and BLEND in PRIME with no problems.

[Cold Storm]

Well now seeing as you went water might I recommend you invest a few dollars more and alittle time and grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108079

Yeah, I was thinking of going with that now because of the fact. But, since a friend of mine has a spot cooler, I'll go and try that. I know I'd have to grab two for the pwm also...

[t_ski]

I am in the process of moving and packing. I just moved everything out of my desk so I can sell the desk. Anyway, when I restarted I got the "CPU error" message I always get when I cold boot it. I went in to the BIOS to double check the settings before I started all the way up, and I noticed that Auto on the NB puts it at 1.65v. I thought it was running at 1.25v. lol So now it running at 1.65v with the 70mm fan and reaching only upper 30's C for the idle temp.

[TAOTAO161]

hello all,

finely i manage to get 9*400=3600GHz stable 24/7 OCCT 2.0+PRIME95.
but now i stock even if i rise 1MHz more, the board give me "DET RAM"/"VGA BIOS" errors.

BIOS 1102
-Ai overclock tune = manual
-OC mem lev up= auto
-cpu ratio set= 9.0
-FSB frecv= 400
-pci frecv= 105

-ddram frecv = ddr1066mhz
-ddram command rate = 2t
-ddram timing control= manual
-cash# latency = 5
-ras# to cas# latency =5
-ras# precharge = 5
-ras# active time=15
-ras# to ras# delay = auto
-row refresh cycle time = auto
-write ricovery time = auto
-read to precharge time = auto
-read to write delay (s/d)= auto
-write to read delay (s)= auto
-write to read delay (d)= auto
-read to read delay (s)= auto
-read to read delay(d)= auto
-write to write delay (s)= auto
-write to write delay (d)= auto
-ddram static read control = disable
-dram dynamic write control= disable
-Ai clock twister = light
-Ai transaction booster = disable
-relax level=0

-Cpu voltage 1.55625v (CPU-Z read 1.536)
-cpu ppl voltage = 1.60v
-north bridge voltage= 1.51v
-ddram voltage = 2.12v
-Fsb termination voltage= 1.53v
-south bridge = AUTO
-Loadline calibration = enable
-Cpu gtl reference= x63
-north bridge gtl reference = x67
-ddr3 chanel A+B REF voltage = auto
-ddr3 controller REF voltage = ddr3_REF
-sb 1.5 voltage = auto

offer someone ?