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    Abit AW9D-Max on Vapochill LS

    Intel X6800 ES Stepping B1 1.70v in Bios
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    -46c on the display, error in bios. Approx -26c on core w/ generous 20 degree TD. I dont slack on mounting tightness, 20c TD should be fair guess.
    MCH 2.0v @ max setting
    NB fan added, low noise
    Vapochill LS CPU cooling R507 charged.

    All results are as is and close to max possible with given hardware available. The hardware I am using is the best stuff on the market so my results should be above par for me to even consider this board a contender in benchmarking.

    The CPU is a older review sample B1 stepping and slightly worse in clocks than what is available in B2 stepping in both FSB speed and top end speed through independant testing here on XS.

    I am booting into windows @ 433x10 3-4-3-9 to complete 2D benches. No hardware was changed for the bandwidth tests on this posts other than the video cards for X1900XT vs GX2 benching. This was a maximum safe speed for 2D and light 3D but not something I would consider 24/7 but rather a top bench speed. Im running voltages up, something not advised for long term use.

    The speed was reduced to 420 FSB 3-4-3-12 to get consistant 3D benches with no comprimise to stability on any parts. This is the speed I now stay at and put in many hours on the system to trust it completely for 24/7 use.




    The Vapochill bracket fits fine, no clearance problems at all. I dont forsee any problems with existing aftermarket heatsinks fitting this board.

    The OCZ was installed when I took pictures and were substituted for benching. I use 4GB of OCZ ram for my gaming, the Corsair was found to bench best on this plaform. At this time there is a SPD problem. OCZ has sent me updated SPD since this review to correct the boot problem.



    On the backside there is nothing in the way except the small pins that must be trimmed like on all motherboards to prevent shorting. I used flush cut electronics trimmer to prep the board like I do all boards. This is also a reminder that is not ok to leave those cap and ground pins long when you install a metal backplate.



    My Vapochill is custom modded by Chilly1, it has been recharged with R507 and load tested with the most brutal Smithfield and Presler cores for high speeds and optimal capacity. My Vapochill LS unit will pin -50c unloaded and hold around -45c and drop no more than 5c under load. It has been in operation for almost three years now, it has the original firmware as well. A very dependable unit that I can highly recommend to everyone. Asetek has mastered the seal on socket 775 and with proper maintainance they can and will run for years with trouble free operation. I keep mine showroom clean inside and out, airflow is important for performance.



    The board is feature packed and sells for a modest $240 at newegg. Abit had an engineer deck the boards out in LED's that are changeable in BIOS with a bunch of presets.

    Most people dont know that the board has a built in LED light show, programmable settings from bios that allow different patterns.

    I use an Antec case with Athena power supply both having blue lights as well. This helped in the decision to make this board my daily gamer.

    Abit was quick to issue a beta bios shortly after board release as promised, the bios improved my overclock and no instability problems when operating at 4.33Ghz. I have quite a bit of load on my power supply with the Crossfire cards and 4x RAID drives let alone the huge OC on the system. Im feeding the CPU 1.7v.

    I will start off with the usuall bandwidth quicky benches and work up to 3D. I will only use the CCC overclocking to keep my results simple and repeatable.

    Once again, I am booting at 433x10 3-4-3-9, shown in some images.







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    All results should be on or above par, the board performs great indeed. For the versions I used, nothing to pick at and most impressive latency on Everest. Running the 4:5 ratio gained me nothing, this has been observed on other boards as well. Tight timing PC6400 is the best choice for this board.

    After gaming on this board for a few weeks it has proven itself for stability. My NB gets very hot but not unstable if dont have a fan on it. I have not gotten SLI benches done, waiting on replacement 7950GT. One of my cards was defective and was un-noticed as I had it in the second slot and tested single in primary. I finally tried the second card solo and found it broken.
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    No special cooling or hard overclocking done on the video cards, CCC was used to push the cards to 700/800 even though the cards are capable of much more. I wanted decent but comparable results.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9050057


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4965194


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2219897


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=502838




    2K6 was giving me some problems on the CPU tests, I backed system speed down to 4.2Ghz to get all tests done. The high detail scores on 2k1 are top notch, even the AM3 score is very strong.

    Here is the 7950GX2 in action, not bad scores compared to the Crossfire setup. These scores are from a single card.

    Card clocks 600/700 stock heatsinks.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9050655


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4966479


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2221290


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=504526


    The single GX2 is beating the dual X1900XT's on Aquamark3 showing the GX2 to be a very strong single card solution that can rival the ATI counterparts. The new X1950 has been released and I am sure securing the position that two cards are better than one.



    Here are the 7950GT SLI benchmarks, I increased the clock speeds to 650/800 or +100Mhz on the GPU and memory like I did on all the other cards. I had to use the older modded drivers by Big Sam. Many thanks for having the files ready ahead of time.

    The modded driver is the only way to get SLI to work on the AW9D-Max board currently.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9065194


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4996264


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2256210


    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=545677




    There is no power restart issues like those found on the Asus line of boards and I only had done the cmos reset once by choice. The system will reset after failed overclock correctly making life much easier when testing.

    It would be safe to reccomend this board for both benching and gaming. Stability is one of this boards stong points and I have only used the cmos reset once. Knowing the board hits so high on 1066 strap makes this board very strong in bandwidth at top speed. If it had the 1333 strap I am sure this board could huge bus speeds like those found on other boards.

    The other problem is my top multiple is 11x with the x6800 on the beta bios, not the big of a problem as I use 10x now.

    Abit needs to include the fans with the Max boards, not sure why that was overlooked.
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    Looks like you've made my mind up for board # 6
    lots and lots of cores and lots and lots of tuners,HTPC's boards,cases,HDD's,vga's,DDR1&2&3 etc etc all powered by Corsair PSU's

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne
    Looks like you've made my mind up for board # 6

    Didn't you just get a P5B dlx?

    Damn tempting too
    Maybe board #3 for me
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    did you get the uguru panel also? on their website it is listed for 25 dollars. does it come with the max version?

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    I did not get the Uguru Panels yet, I did request some.

    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=141198
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    Nice test!

    But isn't that a strange HDTach result with 4x150 Raptor Raid-0?
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    Intel X6800 ES Stepping B1 1.70v in Bios
    just for reference. P5b deluxe

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    I have a retail version and my FSB goes on 1,75V up to 430 MHz
    more i have't testet yet but I think it's a good board for OC, it haves many more OC Options than P5W oder P5B

    And instability I have't seen by me!

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    Considering this or the Asus P5W64 what do you guys consider better?

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    what is the highest settable vcore?thx

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    1,725 V is max

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    Cool Fugger !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER
    On the backside there is nothing in the way except the small pins that must be trimmed like on all motherboards to prevent shorting.
    Can you tell me what you mean by this?

    I haven't seen this in any Vapochill install manual, and I'm a bit worried now!

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    is there a cold boot on the board??? Like the Asus boards cause im not happy with that. everytime a bios tweak the mobo have to shut down. Bad for my components

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    Fixed the missing images, netfirms was having problems last night.

    Lets say you were to smack your buddy in the face with the back of the mobo. Those pins that stick out would gouge small holes in their face and they would bleed if they were not trimmed down. Its those pins that need to be removed for the vapo mounting or the pins would short out on the metal backplate as shown in the image above. All boards have those pins, its just a reminder to remove them for safety.

    I will be adding GX2 and SLI 3D results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabauterman
    I have a retail version and my FSB goes on 1,75V up to 430 MHz
    more i have't testet yet but I think it's a good board for OC, it haves many more OC Options than P5W oder P5B

    And instability I have't seen by me!
    what cooling you using?
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    Stock Cooling with Fan over the End of the Heatpiepes
    CPU is Watercooled

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    Ownage ther Fugger. GREAT TO SE ABIT BACK IN THE GAME

    Now we just need some of the less skilled users to go faster.

    Why are you only running 400 fsb Kabauterman?

    Have you tried a lower multi Fugger ?
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    Why are you only running 400 fsb Kabauterman?
    I have an Retail E6600 not an ES
    so I can't get over 3,7 GHz

    I have Test the FSB with 7x Multi but it's not possilbe to give more than 425
    but Alex (for forumdeluxx.de) says that it is a BIOS problem ans Abit is on work to fix that!

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    GX2 results posted at the end of post #2.

    Working on SLI tomorrow.

    Yes, I have tried lower multi's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER
    GX2 results posted at the end of post #2.

    Working on SLI tomorrow.

    Yes, I have tried lower multi's.
    is it also so that the FSB not goes higher with more vMCH ?

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    Pretty much maxed out on the 1066 strap, if we had the 1333 strap I bet we could be pushing upwards of 600FSB with 2v
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER
    Pretty much maxed out on the 1066 strap, if we had the 1333 strap I bet we could be pushing upwards of 600FSB with 2v
    I think so too ...

    the timings are stronger than on other Boards,
    I think the Abit have potential to be THE BEST i975X Board for OC ...

    hope for newer BIOS


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    what's the voltage regulation like?

    eg at max setting of 1.7313 vcore, what's the actual vcore? 1.725?

    Any idea of other settings over/undervolting?
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