Asrock P67 Extreme4 UEFI & Drivers thread [Extreme6 & Pro3 owners welcome]

[Ket]

Just want to know when Asrock starts to process the recall of thier P67 mobo. The retailer exxx.com had very bad return policy (like 30 days for them to receive the return after invoice and has to be unopened), even for P67/H67 situation). Sent them more than 10 emails and still I have to meet the 2 conditions to get refund.

RMA direct to Asrock, and inform them of who the retailer is not accepting the board back despite the P67 issue. Asrock will likely either have a stern word in that etailers ear, or blacklist them so they can't sell any of Asrocks products anymore.

Ok started playing with ram settings to see what my sticks will do but for some reason my settings will not stick and the reboot fails. when you finally get back into bios it will have some goofy timings in there....not what i put?? This is on 1.50 bios. Only thing that seems to work is the everything on auto and the XMS profile loaded, cant seem to get anything memory related to stick when going manual setttings. Anyone else have this?

Need more details about your RAM. What RAM do you have?

[ClockZ]

RMA direct to Asrock, and inform them of who the retailer is not accepting the board back despite the P67 issue. Asrock will likely either have a stern word in that etailers ear, or blacklist them so they can't sell any of Asrocks products anymore.



Need more details about your RAM. What RAM do you have?

G.Skill RipjawsX F3-12800cl7d-8gbxh Its 2 4gb modules 1600/7-8-7-24. For some reason I cant get changes to ram to stick in bios,maybe need to flash back to somthing other than 1.50

[Ket]

With the exception of spread spectrum and BCLK options beinf very flaky in 1.5 Its working fairly well for me. Try setting 9-9-9-25 2N, set voltage to 1.6v and see if you can boot with the 1866 divider and no other changes.

[ClockZ]

With the exception of spread spectrum and BCLK options beinf very flaky in 1.5 Its working fairly well for me. Try setting 9-9-9-25 2N, set voltage to 1.6v and see if you can boot with the 1866 divider and no other changes.

Will give it a go, been playing with the clocks some more,chip seem's to need 1.4V under load for 5ghz stable. Probly wont keep it there as 4.8@1.35 load seem's a little better for 24/7 to me.

[Ket]

You have a very good 2500k there. I've only seen one other 2500k/2600k that hit 5GHz on less vcore. Until people can nail down just what a safe 24/7 voltage is for these Sandys, I'd play it a little conservative too. I think we will find out in time about 1.45v is ok for Sandys 24/7 on the right cooling, but for now a little caution won't hurt.

[ClockZ]

You have a very good 2500k there. I've only seen one other 2500k/2600k that hit 5GHz on less vcore. Until people can nail down just what a safe 24/7 voltage is for these Sandys, I'd play it a little conservative too. I think we will find out in time about 1.45v is ok for Sandys 24/7 on the right cooling, but for now a little caution won't hurt.

Agreed, hard to say what they will handle and what they wont at this point long term wise. These things sure are ALOT of cpu for the money though thats for sure.

[Ket]

Deffinately. When I first saw reviews of the 2500k my jaw hit the floor. Those benchmark results completely destroyed any other CPU there is. I knew Sandy was going to be good, but the performance out of these chips isn't a simple generation better. Its like intel leaped forward 4 years in one swoop.

[metalion71]

Will give it a go, been playing with the clocks some more,chip seem's to need 1.4V under load for 5ghz stable. Probly wont keep it there as 4.8@1.35 load seem's a little better for 24/7 to me.

Very,very nnice 2500k.I need 1,430 in fixed mode to go 5 GHz to mine on the extreme 6.About security in v core i beleive in teh internal tdp limitator moore than v core.For now,until news about the limit in v core,i still stuck at 4800 with my overkill refrigeration for that plataform(i come from a 1336 and i have ma triple and a double rad in the circuit....only for the cpu lol)also at 1,35 fixed mode.
Anyway a extreme 4 and a 2500k able to do that...the best bang for the buck in ages bro.congratulations.

[radier]

Good 2500K batch is L041C124. 5Ghz on about 1,33-1,37V vCore. Mine does 4,5Ghz on 1,2V. I didn't try more because I have only BOX cooling.

[Ket]

My 2500k seems to do 4.5GHz @ 1.25v so it should be good but it has issues going past 4.6GHz ATM. I'll play with it a little more later. Batch is L049A796.

[ClockZ]

Very,very nnice 2500k.I need 1,430 in fixed mode to go 5 GHz to mine on the extreme 6.About security in v core i beleive in teh internal tdp limitator moore than v core.For now,until news about the limit in v core,i still stuck at 4800 with my overkill refrigeration for that plataform(i come from a 1336 and i have ma triple and a double rad in the circuit....only for the cpu lol)also at 1,35 fixed mode.
Anyway a extreme 4 and a 2500k able to do that...the best bang for the buck in ages bro.congratulations.

Thanks, and yeah bang for the buck is a understatement I had a I5 750 before this and that chip needed 1.4V for 4ghz stable. Definitly glad I made the switch even with the mobo problems....really shouldnt effect my setup as im only on the sata6 ports.

[ClockZ]

Somthing I stumbled across tonight updating my windows7 64bit. Under optional updates there is somthing called "Accusys Inc.-storage-Acs-6xxx" When that installed it took out my internet connection and my sound card I had to go into device manager and unistall it. Don't know if its just my stuff but just a heads up
EDIT- did some searching online and this is what Im seeing pretty much, maybe this isnt news to you guys but first ive ever seen of it.
"The Accusys ACS6xxx is Windows Update incorrectly trying to install drivers for the onboard PLX PCIe bridge chip. As you have found, installing this will essentially disable most of the PCIe devices on the board and make it unstable."

[radier]

"The Accusys ACS6xxx is Windows Update incorrectly trying to install drivers for the onboard PLX PCIe bridge chip. As you have found, installing this will essentially disable most of the PCIe devices on the board and make it unstable."

Yes, avoid this driver.

[beast200]

Hi
just installa the Exreme 6 witha 2500k
if i install my intel ssd 80gig on the sata 3 & samsung 1tb on the other sata 3 port the 1TB will not work at boot stage or in windows
it also the same if i put the dvd in to sata 3 port with the ssd
if i use the marvel sata 3 for the dvd and 1tb all ok
all standard setting at the present

any ideas

[xdan]

Did you installed Intel RST(rapid storage tech.) driver on HDD and then plugged the SSD?
I know someone who had this problem until he installed the latest RST driver which is not on drivers cd...

[Ket]

Hi
just installa the Exreme 6 witha 2500k
if i install my intel ssd 80gig on the sata 3 & samsung 1tb on the other sata 3 port the 1TB will not work at boot stage or in windows
it also the same if i put the dvd in to sata 3 port with the ssd
if i use the marvel sata 3 for the dvd and 1tb all ok
all standard setting at the present

any ideas

You have to enable the marvell controller to be bootable in the UEFI setup first. I'm guessing those are the ports you are connected to and not the P67s SATA3 ports?

[beast200]

hi

Ket seem a long time when i was using your modified bios for the asus p5k
i had the 2 drives on the intel sata3 but the 1tb would just click and stop the machine booting
ssd (boot) on intel and the 1tb & dvd on marvel seems ok
now to start the fun for 5k +

[tripgood]

Somthing I stumbled across tonight updating my windows7 64bit. Under optional updates there is somthing called "Accusys Inc.-storage-Acs-6xxx" When that installed it took out my internet connection and my sound card I had to go into device manager and unistall it. Don't know if its just my stuff but just a heads up
EDIT- did some searching online and this is what Im seeing pretty much, maybe this isnt news to you guys but first ive ever seen of it.
"The Accusys ACS6xxx is Windows Update incorrectly trying to install drivers for the onboard PLX PCIe bridge chip. As you have found, installing this will essentially disable most of the PCIe devices on the board and make it unstable."

I found a similar problem after downloading this update but I had to reinstall os. BEWARE

[radier]

System Restore was sufficient.

[nijel]

Hey guys have a simple question.
Does Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec on P67 Extreme6/4 supports Dolby Digital Live or DTS Connect for single digital audio cable connected to receiver?

[Ket]

The Realtek ALC892 on the Extreme4/6 does not support Dolby DTS. Instead it's taken door no:2 and supports THX TruStudio PRO with "Premium Blu-ray audio support". As far as I am aware the only difference between boards using the ALC892 to support DTS or THX is just on the software level, so its more than probable that somebody could take a manufacturers ALC892 driver supporting THX, and another manufacturers driver using ALC892 supporting DTS and combine both drivers to have both THX and DTS features. This is something I myself might look into doing even though I have a Xonar 7.1, but no promises.

[Ket]

Alright, a lot of people don't seem to fully know just what "safe" voltages are to use on P67 and Sandy Bridge when overclocking. So I have researched this referencing Intels own documents and applying typical +5% / +10% tolerences appropriately. The end result is the following table which by no means am I guaranteeing to be 100% accurate, but it should be very close.

DRAM Voltage:
[Intel Spec. Range: 1.5v - 1.58v]
Typical +10% electrical tolerence = 1.65v MAX Safe

PCH Voltage:
[Intel Spec. Range: Unknown]
Nominal Voltage: 1.059v
Typical +10% electrical tolerence = 1.16v

CPU PLL Voltage (VCCPL):
[Intel Spec. Range: 1.7v - 1.9v]
+5% electrical tolerence = 1.92v MAX safe
(no known prolonged tests) +10% tolerence = 2.01v MAX

VTT Voltage (VCCIO):
[Intel Spec. Range: 1.05v]
+5% electrical tolerence = 1.1v MAX safe
(no known prolonged tests) +10% tolerence = 1.15v MAX

VCCSA Voltage:
[Intel Spec. Range: 0.88v - 0.97v]
+10% electrical tolerence = (0.88) 0.97v = Do not exceed 1.016v!
(no known prolonged tests) +10% tolerence = (0.97) 1.067v = Do not exceed 1.1v!


Notes;

Load Line Calibration (LLC): It would seem LLC works in a slightly bizarre way on Sandy Bridge, causing 0x101 BSODs if it's potency is too high. To remedy this simply set a more relaxed LLC option. I recommend setting a mid-level LLC setting.
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Hopefully this will help all of you guys attain some high OCs and I would be interested to know your results using the above table so I can try to make it more accurate if necessary

[nijel]

The Realtek ALC892 on the Extreme4/6 does not support Dolby DTS. Instead it's taken door no:2 and supports THX TruStudio PRO with "Premium Blu-ray audio support". As far as I am aware the only difference between boards using the ALC892 to support DTS or THX is just on the software level, so its more than probable that somebody could take a manufacturers ALC892 driver supporting THX, and another manufacturers driver using ALC892 supporting DTS and combine both drivers to have both THX and DTS features. This is something I myself might look into doing even though I have a Xonar 7.1, but no promises.

Just what I wanted to know. Thanks, Ket.
I have UD7 now and reading good things about AsRock P67 boards seriously considering exchanging it for Extreme6 when the new B3 P67 hits the market. Unfortunately no DD/DTS real time encoding is a dealbreaker for me. That is the only way I can get acceptable audio quality from the integrated audio using my audio setup, don't want to use add-on card. THX is a nice feature but I need single digital audio connection to my receiver.
One more thing. The direct PCI-e lines to the CPU - are they shared with something else on these boards? For instance UD7 doesn't shares them with anything, strictly for PCI-e slots (graphics). Asus MIVE shares them with Marvell and the two USB3 controllers. Asus WS Revolution shares them with one USB3 controller.

[Ket]

AFAIK The Extreme4/6 doesn't share the PCI-E lanes on the CPU, they are strictly for graphics. If memory serves me right the PCH has 4 PCI-E lanes of its own for onboard devices, and in the case of the Extreme6 it also has the nvidia chip which adds 4 more PCI-E lanes for triple SLI setups. The downside to that though is added latency. You would probably be better served by getting the Extreme4 (16+4 PCI-E lanes AFAIK) and using the 3rd PCI-E slot for a good PhysX card like a GTS450. Rather than a Extreme6 (16+8 PCI-E lanes AFAIK) and adding all that extra added latency and heat the nvidia chip throws in.

Again, all that is if I'm remembering the configuration correctly of the PCH. Otherwise its only the nvidia chip that adds 4 extra PCI-E lanes, which are still equally useless because of the added heat and latency I already mentioned.

As for getting acceptable audio quality out of those crap Realtek chips (and ALL Realtek chips are crap for anyone that tries to say theirs isn't) you can actually get very good audio quality by customising the Equalizer, either through the Realtek CP or through the Windows EQ. It really is worth doing if stuck with a Realtek chip, it'll turn muddy, "blurred" audio into something thats really quite crisp with adequate Bass. Depending on your speakers for the latter.

[nijel]

Just found P67 Extreme6 block diagram. No NV chip, just a switch for the PCI-e x4/x2 and x1 slots. Looks good to me for 2 cards SLI/Crossfire:



But this live encoding... realy need it... uhgggrrrr