EK-480 block on GTX580?

[Olly_K]

i dont think companies would go to all this trouble to make new 580 blocks if the old one did fit

[Kenjiwing]

i dont think companies would go to all this trouble to make new 580 blocks if the old one did fit

Call me crazy but being able to sell a 2nd block to people that already own a 480 block sounds like good marketing to me.

[shazza]

Call me crazy but being able to sell a 2nd block to people that already own a 480 block sounds like good marketing to me.

I'd say it was more likely that manufacturers would be happy to announce their 480 blocks fit the 580 (if they did). That way, they'd have instant availability and wouldn't have to retool/restock/redistribute another block in yet again another short time cycle

[Church]

Kenjiwing: also my 2 cents are that most of people with 480 are more or less satisfied with their performance and not exactly willing to shell out insane ammount of money to buy slightly faster cards that soon. As for those who are jumping to fermi bandwagon only now, they should have no problems in buying 580 specific full covers, as they hadn't any 480 gpus or 480 gpu full cover blocks before.

[Kenjiwing]

Kenjiwing: also my 2 cents are that most of people with 480 are more or less satisfied with their performance and not exactly willing to shell out insane ammount of money to buy slightly faster cards that soon. As for those who are jumping to fermi bandwagon only now, they should have no problems in buying 580 specific full covers, as they hadn't any 480 gpus or 480 gpu full cover blocks before.

Most people buying the 580 are the same people that had 480's 5870's etc.. Check for sale/trade forums... they are FULL of people with 480's dumping their to buy the new flavor of the month.

[Kenjiwing]

I'd say it was more likely that manufacturers would be happy to announce their 480 blocks fit the 580 (if they did). That way, they'd have instant availability and wouldn't have to retool/restock/redistribute another block in yet again another short time cycle

I guess it just depends on how much it costs in the end.. Basic capitalism would say otherwise though.

[Kenjiwing]

Dont take this as me trying to be rude.. just saying from a business stance I could understand both sides.

[nusihb]

Just tested the DD 480 wb on one of my 580s.
I had to use pads on mem instead of TIM, GPU is a few mm higher on the 580.

Result from a quick run at 850/2100:
Temp while running MSI 'multiGPU DX11 path' combustor was around 50-60+C on the back of the water cooled card, even around the VRMs.
GPU monitor at 55+C.

The other 580 (with OEM h/s) had board temps around 75-80+C... and GPU temp was almost 100C+.

Probably not as good as the 580 block, but good enough for me...

Now on to the 2nd 580...

[nusihb]

Oops - slight correction, GPU temps was 53C/91C...

evga_580_1280.jpg

[Kenjiwing]

just tested the dd 480 wb on one of my 580s.
I had to use pads on mem instead of tim, gpu is a few mm higher on the 580.

Result from a quick run at 850/2100:
Temp while running msi 'multigpu dx11 path' combustor was around 50-60+c on the back of the water cooled card, even around the vrms.
Gpu monitor at 55+c.

The other 580 (with oem h/s) had board temps around 75-80+c... And gpu temp was almost 100c+.

Probably not as good as the 580 block, but good enough for me...

Now on to the 2nd 580...

unpossible

[nusihb]

What was that?
'Unpossible'?

Anyways, some pics from test fitting I did...
dd480wb_1024.jpg

580_1024.jpg

As you can see, TIM is showing imprints, so by just adding pads to mem 'banks' on the wb it's working OK...
You 'miss' half of the mem chip on one of the banks though, but it doesn't seem to have any adverse effect.

[lowfat]

Just tested the DD 480 wb on one of my 580s.
I had to use pads on mem instead of TIM, GPU is a few mm higher on the 580.

Result from a quick run at 850/2100:
Temp while running MSI 'multiGPU DX11 path' combustor was around 50-60+C on the back of the water cooled card, even around the VRMs.
GPU monitor at 55+C.

The other 580 (with OEM h/s) had board temps around 75-80+C... and GPU temp was almost 100C+.

Probably not as good as the 580 block, but good enough for me...

Now on to the 2nd 580...

Very good news indeed.

[Tackleberry]

@nusihb
I dont see the relevance of DD 480 compatibility with 580 card on this thread??????
Are you saying, cos DD block fits so shall EK's??

[nusihb]

No relevance?
I'll let the admin decide if my posts/pics should be deleted.....

[blackvette94]

Is it even worth upgrading from a gtx 480 to a 580?? I already have aGTX 480 with EK waterblock.. seems like Eddy says we need to buy the new block for the gtx 580 but I am not sure its worth the huge loss to sell the 480 for the 580...

[Cookiesowns]

Is it even worth upgrading from a gtx 480 to a 580?? I already have aGTX 480 with EK waterblock.. seems like Eddy says we need to buy the new block for the gtx 580 but I am not sure its worth the huge loss to sell the 480 for the 580...

I don't care if i won't be getting the best contact with the waterblock, but what I do care about is the ability to OC higher, only actually have to be pay 18$ per card for evga step up, and More shaders.

So for me it's worth it, as long as the 480 blocks could fit, and wouldn't have any major side-effects.

[Cookiesowns]

@nusihb
I dont see the relevance of DD 480 compatibility with 580 card on this thread??????
Are you saying, cos DD block fits so shall EK's??

What do you mean???? DD480 fitting a 580 is a GOOD damn sign, since all 480s have the same PCB layout? and so if a 480 block fits a 580, then that means most 480 blocks should fit the 580.

So yes it is relevant.

[Tackleberry]

What do you mean???? DD480 fitting a 580 is a GOOD damn sign, since all 480s have the same PCB layout? and so if a 480 block fits a 580, then that means most 480 blocks should fit the 580.

So yes it is relevant.

This thread title is EK-480 block on GTX580?

And if it does not fit? Who will people blame when burning PCB based on this assumptions? (Yes, that is all it is until somebody actualy shows results connected to the question on title.)

So far we got nothing here but just guestimates.

Besides Eddys (manufacturer) statement.

[Kenjiwing]

This thread title is EK-480 block on GTX580?

And if it does not fit? Who will people blame when burning PCB based on this assumptions? (Yes, that is all it is until somebody actualy shows results connected to the question on title.)

So far we got nothing here but just guestimates.

Besides Eddys (manufacturer) statement.

This is the internet.. you take everything you do at your own risk. You dont have anyone to blame.. Go try it for yourself

[penguins]

dude it's not that big of a deal. someone checked. so someone else can check and see if it fits.. no one is saying discount all manufacture info.. what's so bad about guesstimates if everyone knows what they are. if you think this thread is going the wrong way report it, don't

[Tackleberry]

I m just pointing out that since we are dealing with expensive high tech equipment firm evidence or facts are needed.
DD block fits..all i can say thank your for feedback.
Hopefully someone will answer to question placed in first post.

[Eddy_EK]

Hey, DD block has used diferent mounting holes for mosfet chips.
EK block used the cutout lids in the PCB to mout the block for mosfet contact, so did Aquacomputer, and as 580 card does not have those lids blocks are not recomended to mount as mosfet chips vill most likely not have proper contact and the care will be bent. Therefore EK does not recomend to use 480 block with 580 GTX card.

[nusihb]

Yep, I agree with EK&AT - the DD block is made 'simpler', that's why it fits 'better' on the 580.

I just got the 2nd DD block fitted to my 2nd 580, this one took a little more effort to fit - VRMs was not as tight towards the wb as the first one.

In the end, O/C did not gain anything from these 480 waterblocks - it was no difference from the OEM H/S (except the noise, of course):
- 855/2150 w/o voltage hike
- 925/2150 at 1.125v

Good enough for me, but maybe not for everybody else... YMMV.

[Cookiesowns]

Eddy, do you think it would be ok, at our own risk of course, to ghetto rig the 480 block to 580? Or is someone willing to trade? The only main mounting point that concerns me is the VRM, but it shouldn't be too hard to just grab a ziptie or cable tie and tie it thru the screw hole as tight as I could.

[Eddy_EK]

I'ts up to you. But we'll have 580 GTX block fitted perfectly.