Intel to show off Sandy Bridge at IDF next week, AMD counters with Zacate demo nearby

[Hornet331]

"and i thank you for that"
No capital I

"cannot be done till"
Surely 'until' should be used in any professional document.

"3th floor"
really

is that really legit?

Don't forget Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge... also written without capital letters... real sloppy slide imo.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Bulldozer looks to be delivering especially in single thread performance (it hadn't been mentioned if it was sub-par) and Intel wants to battle back with added cores is what I gather from the slide.

I'm amazed if AMD could bring single thread performance to match Intel as they are quite a bit behind today and it would have to mean a HUGE boost for AMD from previous gen in that case like P4 -> Core 2.

But I wouldn't personally think a company like Intel even if it's internal etc. to write in such english. Well I have no idea really but I wouldn't at least have thought it.

[Mechanical Man]

Im not saying it is legit. But if it is internal, it is feasible to be full with errors.

[duploxxx]

So that automatic systems cant detect it. It might have been uploaded from intel office/lab/something else, I see no reason why they would not have automatic systems that analyze what is sent offsite.

and scan on what, such automatic analyze with text can't be done unless there is something hidden, even cuts/paste or screenshots are always possible. Besides what is new on this slide? nothing.

Im not saying it is legit. But if it is internal, it is feasible to be full with errors.

if internal why bother to put it into a presentation, just send email...

[Hornet331]

Im not saying it is legit. But if it is internal, it is feasible to be full with errors.

Lol.. yeah for one time, if it happens again you can say good bye to your job.

[Mechanical Man]

Lol.. yeah for one time, if it happens again you can say good bye to your job.

Sometimes i think people dont really have ever been to real job..

[Hornet331]

Sometimes i think people dont really have ever been to real job..

I have done a fair share of slides while I was working, if I would have delivered such slides they would have thrown it at my head. Even when most of them where for internal usage.

[Mechanical Man]

I have done a fair share of slides while I was working, if I would have delivered such slides they would have thrown it at my head. Even when most of them where for internal usage.

Do you agree that it depends on what the target audience is. If it is from some team manager to his team.. Maybe foreing too who is not native english speaker.

I dont care if it is real slide or not. Im just saying it is possible.

[ajaidev]

"and i thank you for that"
No capital I

"cannot be done till"
Surely 'until' should be used in any professional document.

"3th floor"
really

is that really legit?

Don't forget Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge... also written without capital letters... real sloppy slide imo.

Sometimes i think people dont really have ever been to real job..

I have done a fair share of slides while I was working, if I would have delivered such slides they would have thrown it at my head. Even when most of them where for internal usage.

Do you agree that it depends on what the target audience is. If it is from some team manager to his team.. Maybe foreing too who is not native english speaker.

I dont care if it is real slide or not. Im just saying it is possible.

Its internal and most likely legit, was found it in a internal lan type thing so this could be a draft.

The writer is a Chinese guy and this has most likely originated there it cant be a sloppy job by the creators but can be a draft. The logo is marked with a line to protect it from something that Intel has in its email service.

It is not for OEM but is suppose to be announced by some one influential in Intel to the elite workforce

[informal]

Things are heating up

[Sparky]

Hm. Anyone else think that "Zacate" sounds like some sort of drug?

[qcmadness]

Bulldozer looks to be delivering especially in single thread performance (it hadn't been mentioned if it was sub-par) and Intel wants to battle back with added cores is what I gather from the slide.

I'm amazed if AMD could bring single thread performance to match Intel as they are quite a bit behind today and it would have to mean a HUGE boost for AMD from previous gen in that case like P4 -> Core 2.

But I wouldn't personally think a company like Intel even if it's internal etc. to write in such english. Well I have no idea really but I wouldn't at least have thought it.

The major problems for AMD's architecture since K8 (against Core Arch. and later) are the low integer performance and worse branch prediction.

[AliG]

The major problems for AMD's architecture since K8 (against Core Arch. and later) are the low integer performance and worse branch prediction.

For what it's worth, JF said that the third integer unit was put into k10 purely for symmetrical purposes, and wasn't really being used. So in theory, due to the greatly improved branch prediction, bd should be within 5-10% of SB

[ajaidev]

Another fake slide "some say" but still edited it to be on the safe side. No i don't know what the numbers stand for guess its another reason why its fake mehh

[flippin_waffles]

Thanks for the posts ajaidev. I'm just curious, how can you tell what should be edited, and what shouldn't?

[ajaidev]

Thanks for the posts ajaidev. I'm just curious, how can you tell what should be edited, and what shouldn't?

Simple whats not publicly known or can expose where the slide came from.

[informal]

I think the Joke Fisherman line gives it away(that it's fake).But who knows.

[Hornet331]

Another fake slide "some say" but still edited it to be on the safe side. No i don't know what the numbers stand for guess its another reason why its fake mehh

Index, nothing more.

[radaja]

Simple whats not publicly known or can expose where the slide came from.

so the blacked out logo at the bottom is where it came from
if so i think i can make it out,is it "intob"

[mAJORD]

Those slides look incredibly bull :p

[Calmatory]

For what it's worth, JF said that the third integer unit was put into k10 purely for symmetrical purposes, and wasn't really being used. So in theory, due to the greatly improved branch prediction, bd should be within 5-10% of SB

If Bulldozer has exclusive caches(as people are predicting), then even if their Int and Float units would be, say 5-10 % faster than SB's units, Bulldozer would end up being 5-10 % slower.

Oh, and even if it has inclusive caches, Nehalem -> SB cache latency increases make it impossible for AMD to get anywhere near on that regard. I'm personally stunned if they can come even somewhat close to Nehalem IPC wise. They have cores, and hopefully can clock them so they can be competitive on some areas even.

There is nothing which indicates of better IPC performance. "improved X, Y and Z units" by their marketing slides isn't really convincing, when they have also cut L1D by 3/4, have longer pipeline. And, with longer pipeline the stalls are more expensive.

[god_43]

those slides were made by a fanboy..... why you Intel need to give their employees a pep talk, about amd? they barely try to acknowledge them?

[Manicdan]

those slides were made by a fanboy..... why you Intel need to give their employees a pep talk, about amd? they barely try to acknowledge them?

brainwashing, duh,
seriously though i know some companies which do that such thing so they feel inferior when they leave cause they lost their "koolaid family". not saying intel does

[Mumak]

ajaidev: I suggest you remove those slides (in case it's not too late already)

[ajaidev]

Since majority agree the slides are fake removing slides so as not to create confusion.