LSI 9211-8i versus LSI 9260-8i versus Areca 1231ML-2G

[Tiltevros]

yes....and u dont need drivers to install windows
just do ur setup and update the drivers later

[trans am]

got it! Thanks T

[Tiltevros]

stevero did u see the link that i post u?

[trans am]

oh boy here we go. I got win7 installed in record time. I get into windows and start shutting crap off like uac and set drives to never turn off, disabled indexing etc. As im about to install my chipset drivers and set up my lan the sucker reboots then after post there is no more LSI raid splash screen just says insert proper disk media etc reboot.. I shut down. reach my hand in the case and wiggle the card around to make sure its not wet from my h20 or something.. its dry and feels like its in there. I restart post fine then I get the following message:



Heres my settings I saved in the raid utility before I installed os:


when I installed the card I just removed the plastic plug from the sas header on the card and plugged in the sas / sata. ran sata cables plug 0 and 1 to my ssds and the sata power dongles frm my psu to the ssds. Im going to go back and start fresh and follow the guide step by step.

[Computurd]

well you shouldn't be able to wiggle the card around. it should be secured firmly you experienced some sort of issue that made you lose power. that is the card informing you of the event. all you have to do is move forward.
breathe in through your nose...then out through your mouth.
i see you have the operating system on there. now install the mega raid control manager. i posted i the other thread. sorry had life to attend to.careful with your pcie lane overclock. sometimes the card does not like it and will shut itself off. until you get an operating system on there that is functioning normally you need to be at stock settings. once you have an operating system setup that you like, then you can image it onto another drive if you would like. then you can start playing with your motherboard settings such as pcie speed etc. no matter what board you have our hardware is going to operate differently. you have to learn what your specific configuration can handle. before you begin playing get it stock and running well. i image to another drive in case something happens. however, and i hate to jinx it, i have never lost an array on a lsi card. i had big probs with that and the arecas if there were messed up bsods or other while overclocking. so proceed with caution. this isnt something that you should just run into full steam, like i tend too!! you may not need to do the excessive amount of tweaking that i and others do with these cards, as you are only running two devices it should be relatively straightforward. the stuff i do to my setup is to attempt to get super performance, and some things only give a marginal gain in performance. it may not be worth it to you to get one percent more performance.

[trans am]

no its just that there is so much weight on the back of my case with the gtx480 rad that sometimes the pci io gets warped and even if you secure the cards too tight they pull out of the slots partially. I think I was just guessing when I was in the raid setup. you really need to follow the pdf step by step. I went back and started from scratch. installing os now. In the meantime while all that was going on I managed to build a new computer.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=123

[Computurd]

i am pming you my msn if you need any more help i see you have another computer so...

[SteveRo]

stevero did u see the link that i post u?

Good morning Tilt,

I looked at your results, hard to compare yours with turds and mine because you are using a different proc and chip set.
Even so you are showing some good HDD scores - particularly in the HDD windows media center test.
Is this with the 9211 using the 20270 driver and your 7 (or 8?) x25m's?

[Tiltevros]

ok after 18 hours of configuring and benching and installing triming and and and... the best results that i took from the LSI 9211 was... 350Mb/s at 4k seq. and 299Mb/s in random with a 7 array. i dont know what to do next.. im waiting for ideas until my new parts come here then.. we will start benching in a brand new 5520 chipset. a 72 lane motherboard with 100% compatibility in software and in hardware. keep advising because my brain stopped.

[Tiltevros]

that result was live to computurd with 2.0.8.0 drivers and 7 HDD array (x25m G1 and G2). can u do me a favor stevero?? can u put the 9 lines in that xls of yours and mines so to make some grafs????
my rig is q9550 stock with 4GB ram with a rampage extreme. no overclocking at all.

[SteveRo]

that result was live to computurd with 2.0.8.0 drivers and 7 HDD array (x25m G1 and G2). can u do me a favor stevero?? can u put the 9 lines in that xls of yours and mines so to make some grafs????
my rig is q9550 stock with 4GB ram with a rampage extreme. no overclocking at all.

I would have to relearn how to do it in excel - GullLars you there?

[Tiltevros]

Now Results with some tunes on the controller (9211i8 with 7 x intels)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259836

PCMarkSuite
PCMarkMemories 1
HDD - importing pictures to Windows Photo Gallery 182.48 MB/s
PCMark TV and Movies 2
HDD - Windows Media Center 241.08 MB/s
PCMark Gaming 1
Data decompression 983.19 MB/s
GPU gaming 45.48 FPS
PCMark Gaming 2
HDD - gaming 126.19 MB/s
PCMark Music 1
HDD - adding music to Windows Media Player 65.83 MB/s
PCMark Communications 2
HDD - Windows Defender 130.37 MB/s
PCMark Productivity 2
HDD - application loading 111.74 MB/s

[SteveRo]

Do you have the version of pcmark vantage that allows you to run the HDD bechmark.
If you have that version please run the HDD bench against your array, thanks!

[SteveRo]

Ok so here is Pcmark vantage HDD test for the LSI 9211-8i, Areca 1231ML-2G, LSI 9260-8i and intel ich10R (onboard raid).
The i7-965 and memory were set to 4.35 (132x33) and 1848 (8-8-8) woth pcie clock at 101.
The arrays used and (rather surpising) results for each test are as follows –

Ich10R – 6x acard 9010 R0 – 66175 pnts
9211-8i – 8xacardR0 – 60108
1231ML-2G – 8xacardR0 – 56210
9260-8i – 8xacardR0 – 47428
Ich10R – 1x Mtron Mobi 3000 (boot drive) – 12022.

Surprising that ich10 does so well – there might be something to that low latency argument.

For only 233 bucks – the 9211 beats both the 1231 and the 9260 in this test.

As you would hope, this test is very sensitive to storage capabilities - compare the single mtron mobi results to the others.

At some point I want to test s/w raid of some of the above combinations – an ich10R and the 9211 combination might score well.

Screen captures to follow, next up – pcmark vantage “pcmark suite” results.

[Nizzen]

Looks like the 9211i8 is not the controller to beat WR in pcmark with. But hey! It is a good cheap controller for all you're 4k needs

Here are some SSD benchmark numbers in the Norwegian Forums
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?sh...4&st=0&start=0

PCMark Vantage HDD Suite: HDD Score 120596, Raid0 4stk. X25-M G1 ICH10R ---> Woot !

[SteveRo]

The vantage pcmark suite results are as follows –



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259859
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259546
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259929
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259907
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=259877



I don’t know how often the orb hall of fame is updated but if you search benchmark results for pcmark vantage the top eight looks like this –



http://service.futuremark.com/search...esolution=-100

click the above link -while NOT logged into vantage - you will get a more complete list top down list of all vantage scores made public -

[NapalmV5]

Ich10R – 6x acard 9010 R0 – 66175 pnts
9211-8i – 8xacardR0 – 60108
1231ML-2G – 8xacardR0 – 56210
9260-8i – 8xacardR0 – 47428
Ich10R – 1x Mton Mobi 3000 (boot drive) – 12022.

real apps/games beg to differ vs pcmark/iometer

[SteveRo]

Looks like the 9211i8 is not the controller to beat WR in pcmark with. But hey! It is a good cheap controller for all you're 4k needs

Here are some SSD benchmark numbers in the Norwegian Forums
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?sh...4&st=0&start=0

PCMark Vantage HDD Suite: HDD Score 120596, Raid0 4stk. X25-M G1 ICH10R ---> Woot !

Good afternoon Mr Nizzen, could the 120596 perhaps be with MFT?

[SteveRo]

real apps/games beg to differ vs pcmark/iometer

Yes, I do plan on game loading crysisWH.
Would I get he same effect using a single mtron as boot but then loading/testing load times with the game loaded on the test array?
I may not have the space on the acards for both windows and the game.

[Tiltevros]

New record for me in IOmeter i broke the 1660 for 64k files seq.
Now my record is

[Nizzen]

Good afternoon Mr Nizzen, could the 120596 perhaps be with MFT?

I do not know. I have to ask Anvil

[Tiltevros]

ok here u go

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcmv=260008

[SteveRo]

Tilt - excellent numbers.
Set up right - the 9211-8i with 7 or 8 x25-m's should score significantly higher in the HDD vantage test then what I have been able to do with the acards.

[Tiltevros]

helpppppppp show me the way

[SkOrPn]

Tilt - excellent numbers.
Set up right - the 9211-8i with 7 or 8 x25-m's should score significantly higher in the HDD vantage test then what I have been able to do with the acards.

So, the 9211-8i is ideal so long you provide it with the correct number of drives? What about the original Vertex's, I already have four of the 30's, if I grab myself a few more would the 9211 be a smarter purchase over the 9260-4i? Thanks for any insight into this question