msi 790 fx-gd70 thread

[Panther57]

Well then that confirms it for me. My X3 720BE does not unlock. As for 1.4b3 it did seem more responsive than the others except 1.4b1. One seems ok also. I installed 1 because that isa known edition the unlocks the 720BE. I think I am going to reinstall 1.4b3 again because I agree, it's the best one.
Thanks for the answer. I bought mine the day NE offered the 790FX and bought both. Heck, I think I bought the first MSI 790FX from Newegg and I still have an no-unlockable one. Hmmm.... mabie the eailer ones were actual 3 cores, and later ones 4 core reduced to three for sales?

[mav2000]

Just ordered the OCZ animals 1600 Cas7 and am going to be ordering this in a little bit. BTW hows the vdroop and drop on this board?

[shadow_419]

Cpu v droops by 0.006-0.008v under load. Cpu-NB v overvolts about 0.009v idle and 0.018 load. These are measured from the board with a dmm compared to bios setting.

[Baron_Davis]

can you run crossfire like in the pic below? Basically, if I want to have 3x crossfire and a SLI sound card, is it possible?

[vinister]

I don't see why you not, I have 3 cards in mine and I've had them in many slot arrangements with no issues. You can configure it in bios, but it usually works on auto.

[FrOzE]

Anyone here who successfully unlock all cores n managed to get it stable... mind sharing ur BIOS setting?

[Smartidiot89]

1.4b3 bios with ECC Special and ACC Auto works for my X3 720BE.

Out of the new 1.4 beta bios I feel 1.4b3 is the best... considering 1.4b4 breaks support for X3 720BE unlocking (though 550 unlocks well on 1.4b4).

Good thing is we can expect more beta bios to be released.

Knowing MSI since before we should soon have a good stable 1.4 BIOS released shortly

[shadow_419]

can you run crossfire like in the pic below? Basically, if I want to have 3x crossfire and a SLI sound card, is it possible?

Tri-crossfire will work but the 3 cards will run at pci-e 2.0 x8 bandwidth speed.

[Smartidiot89]

Tri-crossfire will work but the 3 cards will run at pci-e 2.0 x8 bandwidth speed.

1 card will run PCI-E 2.0 x16 and 2 cards will run at PCI-E 2.0 x8?

[vinister]

that is correct. on auto it will give you x16 x8 x8.

This board screams in tri-fire. I came from a DFI sb600 AM2 board and this board just roasts it in framerates. Easy 20-30% increase across the board. AM3, the new southbridge, DDR3, I don't know what did it but its magic.

[Panther57]

Antbody try 1.4b6 yet? Fixes BTS error? What does BTS stand for?

[shadow_419]

I'll throw it on there in a few minutes

[Baron_Davis]

thx for the quick responses guys

[errol8000]

Hi can anyone tell me how far they managed to overclock with cool n quite.
I managed 3.6 but it dosent seem to like you adjusting anything else,like the nb. Can some one tell me if they have had better success and how? it would me nice to have power saving with overclocking or am i asking to much.
Also is the latest bios any good can it help me adjust the nb with cool n quite.
Thanks

[Smartidiot89]

I'll throw it on there in a few minutes

Can you try out if the unlocking feature has improved aswell?

[Entropicity]

1.4b6 still cant unlock X3 720 with ECC Special ACC Auto. Last known working unlocking bios for X3 720 is 1.4b3.

I wonder if MSI even know they broke the unlocking.

[shadow_419]

Weird, I can unlock my x2 550 with 1.4b2 and higher. I can't get it stable with any of the bios however. The temp reporting problem is still there. I haven't tried my x3 720 yet on 1.4b5 or 1.4b6 yet. I'll give these two a try tomorrow I'm not home today.

[MadDias]

Hi can anyone tell me how far they managed to overclock with cool n quite.
I managed 3.6 but it dosent seem to like you adjusting anything else,like the nb. Can some one tell me if they have had better success and how? it would me nice to have power saving with overclocking or am i asking to much.
Also is the latest bios any good can it help me adjust the nb with cool n quite.
Thanks

running 208x18.5 with c´n´q enabled at the moment. nb speed is 208x13.
this is 90minutes occt stable.
i know of some people on the german hardwareluxx forum that can´t run their nb higher than 2.6ghz when c´n´q is enabled. but i really don´t know where the problem is. for me it just works.

[errol8000]

running 208x18.5 with c´n´q enabled at the moment. nb speed is 208x13.
this is 90minutes occt stable.
i know of some people on the german hardwareluxx forum that can´t run their nb higher than 2.6ghz when c´n´q is enabled. but i really don´t know where the problem is. for me it just works.

MadDias can you let me know what your settings are and voltages, i can't get my nb over 2200 with cool n quite enabled. Thanks

[mecho_gruh]

Few days ago I bought an MSI 790FX GD70, its the greatest motherboard that I ever used (perhaps Gigabyte x38 ds5 was a good one too), My previous AMD were Asus M2N-E (crap), Asrock SlivexfireE-Sata2 (good one), Asus M4A79 Deluxe (crap), Gigabyte 790X-UD4 (very bad BIOS), DFI 790gx-m2rs (crap), AND MSI (great one). Very stable, almost no clr. CMOS it recovers itself after shutdown, very cold chipset, everything is just perfect. My BIOS is 1.4b2, should I leave this one?
Here are few results with Phenm II 550 0919 EPMW





It seems that my 550 isn't stable enough @ 4 cores but it's good and steble enough for benchmarks.

I need an advice, I've found a new BOX 810 0904 APAW. What do you think is it a good sample or not? I wasn't able to find any info on the net about this batch, ore any 810's at all. Is it a good choice for this mobo, or I should leave my 550?

Thanks

[beta]

After looking at mecho_gruh's results I tried the same on my system, 32m prime@4 cores - PASSED

Pi still almost instantly causes a lockup.

[MadDias]

MadDias can you let me know what your settings are and voltages, i can't get my nb over 2200 with cool n quite enabled. Thanks

c´n´q enabled
fsb 208
acc auto
nb 13x
cpu vcore 1.480V
nb-cpu vcore 1.3V
DDR voltage 1.9V (old reapers need alot of juice)
spread spectrum disabled

all voltages are offset from the original VID.
some may say adjusting voltage from VID would be more stable, but for me it isn´t. leaving the cpu and cpu-nb vid on auto and just adding voltage by offset works best for me.
i don´t know if this helps u.

[Panther57]

What is really the best "FSB" or "Multiplier" Overclocking?
Using this board is like going to school for Overclocking. I have read every review I could find and think the forum can be great because of how much knowledge is available. I read success stories and play to fine-tune for "Stable" extra performance. Like tuning up a motor for power curve. I am surely no pro, but, wow is this combo teaching me. I have played with so many settings and know "FSB" OC is a good choice for locked CPU's, but is there a benefit for me with an unlocked 720BE? (No mine will not unlock 4th core)
My current setting seems to be my best stable approximate area. Approximate because my numbers for voltage for example are from Web information, not because I have math and Ohm's law for my decisions (learning), and my other settings are a result of using OCCT, Prime95, Futuremark 06, 3DMark Vantage, SiSoftware Sandra, CPU-Z and some other in and out tried for information programs.
So am I there? Do my setting seem correct, or what do you suggest for me to know? Do I have it close? I read higher success's but all I want is a fine tuned, at or near the best "Stable" my equipment offers. Mabie this topic will help a lot of us GD70 owners that have the same questions. After all this is the 790FX-GD70, let's educate each other forum. And unless you want bragging records (I like them too) to see how high you can get, I want to find my power curve and take advantage of this awesome equipment.... Thanks here's my settings:

C1E- disabled, Cool-n-Quiet- auto, SpreadSpectrum- On, HW Monitor CPU Smart Fan 40'c (2 case 120's onboard connection), FSB- 203, Multiplier X17.5 3552Mhz, CPU-NB X12 2436, Multistep OC Booster- Mode 2, Advanced Dram Configuration- Both-9.9.9.24 (per my sticks) 2T (subnote question), 1:3:33 1353, HT Link Speed- X12 2436, CPU VDD Voltage- 1.450, CPU-NB VDD voltage- 1.375, CPU Voltage- 1.510, CPU NB Voltage- 1.405, CPU PLL Voltage- 2.652, Dram Voltage- 1.80 (mfgr specs, also likes 1.65), NB Voltage- 1.300, HT Voltage- 1.350.

I noticed 2T as mfgr specs and switched from 1T. I run good at 1T and notice no difference at 2T (if anything it's better 2T) not sure? Articles suggest 1T when ever stable. What is really better?

So there you go everyone. Educate me. Tell me what I can do different and why? Again I am impressed to go from 2.8-3.552 as it is already. How do I know I have found the power curve for stable performance? And how do people get snapshots of thier screens to post...lol Thanks.

[errol8000]

c´n´q enabled
fsb 208
acc auto
nb 13x
cpu vcore 1.480V
nb-cpu vcore 1.3V
DDR voltage 1.9V (old reapers need alot of juice)
spread spectrum disabled

all voltages are offset from the original VID.
some may say adjusting voltage from VID would be more stable, but for me it isn´t. leaving the cpu and cpu-nb vid on auto and just adding voltage by offset works best for me.
i don´t know if this helps u.

O.k. tried those settings still no go. When i saw your acc was auto i was hoping that was it but that didn't help either. My nb still won't run stable with it set above 2200.
I guess i will have to give up on overclocking with cool n quite.
Thanks for your great help, Do you know if the german forum had any theory’s about the problem.

[shadow_419]

How high are you topping out for cpu load temps? It seems most of your voltages are higher than what I've seen to be needed for those clocks. I know every cpu is different, but is that the min voltages to get you stable at 3.552ghz? Unless you have a problem with emi from your computer, turn off spread spectrum. Spread spectrum never lets my overclocks go as high as possible.