Micron D9 GMH\GKX\JKH etc club

[radaja]

im using a mini-typhoon w/a 92mm 4700rpm fan mounted blowing down
and then i have a dryer vent hose hooked up to my airconditioner
that sit right above my cpu blowing cool air straight down.

[User111]

I have a 2 questions

• Wich is better kit? Teamgroup Xtreem 1200 or Teamgroup Xtreem Superoverclocking Dual spec? What chips are used (xtreem 1200 ->d9gkx) (superoc ->d9????) ?
• Wich is vdimm for daily use without fan? [my ram is life-warrant with 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 2.35v-2.45v]

[zsamz_]

I have a 2 questions

• Wich is better kit? Teamgroup Xtreem 1200 or Teamgroup Xtreem Superoverclocking Dual spec? What chips are used (xtreem 1200 ->d9gkx) (superoc ->d9????) ?
• Wich is vdimm for daily use without fan? [my ram is life-warrant with 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 2.35v-2.45v]

to be honest i prefer doin 1200 with 2.02
even then i use a fan
hows team rma in europe i know its verry bad in northamerica
get whats cheaper pc2-9600

[User111]

yes but which is the maximum voltage without fan?? the oldest kit I used at 2.15 on p5k 1.2GHz

[zsamz_]

yes but which is the maximum voltage without fan?? the oldest kit I used at 2.15 on p5k 1.2GHz

d9gkx needs volts
if you want to run withought a fan get good d9gmh that dont need more than 2.05 to run 1200
you can do 1100 1.9v withought a fan as long as there is some air circulating
but even then i'd put a low noise fan
i lost 5 good sets of d9 on gigabyte p35 x38 boards with 2 50cfm fans 2.24v

[LennyRhys]

One of my GKX died and I had a memory cooler right on it, latterly I was running only 2.1v through it so D9 is fragile stuff.

[User111]

d9gkx needs volts
if you want to run withought a fan get good d9gmh that dont need more than 2.05 to run 1200
you can do 1100 1.9v withought a fan as long as there is some air circulating
but even then i'd put a low noise fan
i lost 5 good sets of d9 on gigabyte p35 x38 boards with 2 50cfm fans 2.24v

nice idea 8x8?

[zsamz_]

nice idea 8x8?

nope 92mm 8x8 too noisy

[kuebk]

Got old double sided crucial tracers 8500 clocks around 600 5-5-5-15 on something between 2.0 - 2.1v but only with fan, without fan they doesn't want to work without errors. Is this normal?

[zsamz_]

Got old double sided crucial tracers 8500 clocks around 600 5-5-5-15 on something between 2.0 - 2.1v but only with fan, without fan they doesn't want to work without errors. Is this normal?

no not normal
i bet thermaltape not doing proper contact
take care of em they might die lol
just put in freezer lol

[kuebk]

So what you suggest to do? Remove heatspreaders and replace thermaltape?

Anyway they are doing factory settings without problems, just overclocking makes them really really hot.

[zsamz_]

So what you suggest to do? Remove heatspreaders and replace thermaltape?

Anyway they are doing factory settings without problems, just overclocking makes them really really hot.

remove the heatspreaders n
let the run wild and freee with a fan

[kuebk]

I don't think it's a good idea...

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I finally got my Cellshock 1150 sticks today. I haven't really pushed them, I just wanted to see how much voltage they needed for 600MHz C5 on the 2:3 divider. Looks like they require about 2.12v.

[kuebk]

Nice result Shiranui Gen-An, are they getting hot on such voltage/speed?

[CryptiK]

Nice work Radaja, that CPU is brilliant.

d9gkx needs volts
if you want to run withought a fan get good d9gmh that dont need more than 2.05 to run 1200
you can do 1100 1.9v withought a fan as long as there is some air circulating
but even then i'd put a low noise fan
i lost 5 good sets of d9 on gigabyte p35 x38 boards with 2 50cfm fans 2.24v

My GKX kits only need 1.97v for 600 MHz stable with quite tight timings, which is 0.05v less than your Crucial GMH. They also do 650 MHz stable with 2.26v (Max II Formula) and 2.24v (P5Q-D).

I finally got my Cellshock 1150 sticks today. I haven't really pushed them, I just wanted to see how much voltage they needed for 600MHz C5 on the 2:3 divider. Looks like they require about 2.12v.

Not bad I'd like to see more from that kit.

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Some preliminary results with my X48-T2RSB Plus.

SPI32M @ 542 FSB / 650 MHz / PL8



Everest @ 542 FSB / 650 MHz / PL8



Everest @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Mind sharing your settings for those clocks Cryptik? Specifically DRAM settings (drive strength, skew model, etc).

[CryptiK]

Sure, these are the main ones I left a bit out though.

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
O.C. Fail retry Counter: 0
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 7x
CPU N/2 Ratio: Disabled
Target CPU Clock: 3794Mhz
CPU Clock: 542
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
CPU Clock Amplitude: 800mv
CPU Clock0 Skew: 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew: 0ps
DRAM Speed: 333/800
- Target DRAM Speed: DDR2-1302
PCIE Clock: 100mhz

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.35625v
CPU VID Special Add: AUT0
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.50v (this was required the kit I was using was my worst kit)
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.604v (probably overkill)
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.250v
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
x MCH RON Offset Value:
x MCH RTT Offset Value:
x MCH Slew Rate Offset Value:
x MCH VREF 1 Value:
x MCH VREF 2 Value: 
x MCH VREF 3 Value:
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 0.667X
x CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt: 0.667X
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 0.61X

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Disabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay
- DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 3
- DRAM DATA Driving Strength: Level 3
- Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 7
- Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 7

Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps

Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Nominal

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Nominal

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Nominal

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing: AUTO

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 8

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO

EDIT - think I made a mistake there (changed it now) - pretty sure the clock crossing & common clock settings were set to nominal or auto rather than aggressive. I cant be sure exactly I had only been playing with the board for about 3 hours and I didn't write anything down.

[radaja]

thanks CryptiK ,looks like your enjoying your
X48-T2RSB Plus.nice results

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I really should put the DK X48 back in PC #2 and pair it with the E8400 and take out the UT P35. I have a bunch of GKX kits I want to push.

[Don_Dan]

So you guys bought a X48-T2RSB Plus... I've been looking at them for quite a while now, very tempting to get them, just for playing with 4GB.

Did you make tests how much 4GB-clocking improved over your old board?

[CryptiK]

Don't think this particular kit will go any higher without getting into the downright dangerous vdimm on aircooling range. This board does clock ram pretty well, better than both my P45's. I have never tried clocking 4GB of ram on this board so I can't comment about that.

SPI32M @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Don't think this particular kit will go any higher without getting into the downright dangerous vdimm on aircooling range. This board does clock ram pretty well, better than both my P45's. I have never tried clocking 4GB of ram on this board so I can't comment about that.

SPI32M @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8

How much voltage for that?

[Don_Dan]

Don't think this particular kit will go any higher without getting into the downright dangerous vdimm on aircooling range. This board does clock ram pretty well, better than both my P45's. I have never tried clocking 4GB of ram on this board so I can't comment about that.

SPI32M @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8

Vdimm used was? Please post an Everest screen, bandwidth should be pretty good at those settings.

4GB is the only reason for me to get this board, as it should be better than P45 boards by quite a big margin. Try it!

[kuebk]

How hot is your memory guys at ~2.2v? Mine is getting in middle 50* what does make me think that something is wrong.

Have double sided ballistix tracers 1066 2x1 and and any ocing without additional fan is impossible due to memories getting way to hot.