New Nehalem MAC!

[Shintai]

But what about Tom's Hardware, then? Actually, most of my information is based on them.

Toms just copied from some early guesses and mixed it with their own. I got L5520 so I know its 8MB. And there is no such thing as CPUs for workstation and others for servers with Xeons. They are all the same. Just like in the Macpro. The 3500 series are used in single socket servers too.

Toms is just plain horrible. Its only a tad better than theinq and fudzilla. Also dont count on any CPU using DDR3-800

[Movieman]

Toms just copied from some early guesses and mixed it with their own. I got L5520 so I know its 8MB. And there is no such thing as CPUs for workstation and others for servers with Xeons. They are all the same. Just like in the Macpro.

Toms is just plain horrible. Its only a tad better than theinq and fudzilla.

BUT.. Looking at his chart, the bottom three are single socket so they are bloomfields not gainestowns..
single QPI vs dual..
The confusion is we're talking dual socket in this thread and that graph shows some single socket cpu's

[Shintai]

BUT.. Looking at his chart, the bottom three are single socket so they are bloomfields not gainestowns..
single QPI vs dual..
The confusion is we're talking dual socket in this thread and that graph shows some single socket cpu's

Yep. But its the same as Core 2 vs Xeon 3300/3400 series. 100% same. Just like the price.

Someone must somehow wrongly have linked W to workstation and the ball kept going from there. Plus its funny that sites reports(all with same source) that E5506 and 04 is quadcores. But 5502 is dualcore....

Its like fudzilla wrote the news

[Movieman]

Yep. But its the same as Core 2 vs Xeon 3300/3400 series. 100% same. Just like the price.

Correct, and on his chart it gets more confusing to most because they list the top W5580 under workstation and we all know that is a dual QPI cpu intended for dual socket boards..

[breathemetal]

anyone know where i can find a mac pro case?
and are they atx or eatx?

[Shintai]

anyone know where i can find a mac pro case?
and are they atx or eatx?

They are none of the above. But 100% custom design. If you also note that the CPUs/Memory are on a slide in board.

Another little thing to keep the confusion going

[Vozer]

Yep. But its the same as Core 2 vs Xeon 3300/3400 series. 100% same. Just like the price.

Yes, I thought so, too. And with the "W" prefix, Tom labelled them "Workstation" and not "Server".

But I still haven't understood why Intel didn't name the W5580 X5580 instead? Is it really just because the TPD is 130W and not 95W?

[Shintai]

Is it really just because the TPD is 130W and not 95W?

Yep.

[Movieman]

Yes, I thought so, too. And with the "W" prefix, Tom labelled them "Workstation" and not "Server".

But I still haven't understood why Intel didn't name the W5580 X5580 instead? Is it really just because the TPD is 130W and not 95W?

So that some fool wouldn't stuff them in a 1U and stand back to watch it melt! j/k

[XS Janus]

A noob question here:
I only wondered myself this now, but, on those DP mobos can you use all the memory slots the board has if you install only one CPU at first or can you only do that if both cpus are installed?

[Shintai]

A noob question here:
I only wondered myself this now, but, on those DP mobos can you use all the memory slots the board has if you install only one CPU at first or can you only do that if both cpus are installed?

You can only use the memory slots connected to a CPU.

So if you got 18 slots. 9 for CPU A and B. If you only have a CPU in socket A. Then you can only use 9 slots thats attached to A. And with 2 CPUs you can use all 18.

[Macadamia]

Err... Turbo-boost AND 80W?


Sounds like not much thermal space to boost either way.

Too bad that Blu-ray burner has to go, but I still undercut the single socket Mac Pro.

[MaxxxRacer]

I just speced out a system. If you fully upgrade everything, you can get up to a whopping 14,999 dollars for just the box. That does NOT include dongles, keyboard, software or monitor. Freeking insane pricing.

[Donnie27]

Err... Turbo-boost AND 80W?


Sounds like not much thermal space to boost either way.

Too bad that Blu-ray burner has to go, but I still undercut the single socket Mac Pro.

But Turbo only works on one Core at time, right?

[lowfat]

But Turbo only works on one Core at time, right?

If it works correctly, I do believe so. But most i7 boards seem to run them 24/7 on all cores

[Shintai]

Turbomode works on both all cores and a single. Like a 2.26Ghz becomes quad 2.4Ghz or single/dual 2.53Ghz etc.

It all depends on cooling, headroom etc. If its a scorching hot day or not. If the 100% load is light or heavy etc.

There is a simple video about it here.

http://www.podtech.net/home/5432/rad...eady-to-launch

[Donnie27]

Thanks both of you guys for the answers!

I just speced out a system. If you fully upgrade everything, you can get up to a whopping 14,999 dollars for just the box. That does NOT include dongles, keyboard, software or monitor. Freeking insane pricing.

Sure, but why would someone say a $100 costs $300? I never saw anyone add more than one or two of these apps.

[Drwho?]

Err... Turbo-boost AND 80W?


Sounds like not much thermal space to boost either way.

Too bad that Blu-ray burner has to go, but I still undercut the single socket Mac Pro.

it does turbo all right

[stevecs]

Those L5520's look real nice actually at only 60W TDP, though wish it had the 6.4GT/s QPI. Those with the X8DAH board look like a winner for a storage server. I know where my tax refund is going.

[threeply]

What are the memory requirements? Unregistered or Registered. Its back to high cost CPUs but cheap memory.


Hooray

[Movieman]

What are the memory requirements? Unregistered or Registered. Its back to high cost CPUs but cheap memory.


Hooray

You ready for this?
They will take all three types depending on the board;
regular DDR3-1333, then ECC and last ECC Registered, all depending on the motherboard maker.
Orginal spec was DDR3-1333 ECC
I just bought 6x1 gig of those for $136.00 delivered from kingston.

[gOJDO]

I just speced out a system. If you fully upgrade everything, you can get up to a whopping 14,999 dollars for just the box. That does NOT include dongles, keyboard, software or monitor. Freeking insane pricing.

Yeah, but you'll get the Apple sticker on your PC!

[Movieman]

Yeah, but you'll get the Apple sticker on your PC!

AND that pretty case!

[Macadamia]

AND that pretty case!

They're on sale on eBay for VERY, VERY cheap


I'd do a mod on those if I weren't fixated by the idea of outMac-cing a Mac with an Antec

[Movieman]

They're on sale on eBay for VERY, VERY cheap


I'd do a mod on those if I weren't fixated by the idea of outMac-cing a Mac with an Antec

Hey, I might go as high as $75.00 for one..
If it was mint and that included shipping!
i've been down on macs since the first time I looked at one almost 10 years ago..
Looked inside and yelled:
"Where are the fans?"