Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB, Single 500GB Platter

[[XC] Lead Head]

Reinstall every 6 months?? What for?
Better keep your OS clean. It can live for years unless you abuse it.

Registry bloat, files that get buried deep within the OS that can never get removed, etc...Yes it can live for years, but performance will slowly degrade. The difference between a New install, and a 1 year old install, running the same programs is quite amazing at times

[RPGWiZaRD]

I used to reinstall every month or every 2nd month but these times it seems more like once every half year. It was a habit I got by Windows ME, it was a fine and fast OS only if you reinstalled it like every 2nd week.

On topic, I hope I can buy a 2 platter 1TB HDD soon, preferable a WD10000AAKS though.

[onethreehill]

I used to reinstall every month or every 2nd month but these times it seems more like once every half year. It was a habit I got by Windows ME, it was a fine and fast OS only if you reinstalled it like every 2nd week.

On topic, I hope I can buy a 2 platter 1TB HDD soon, preferable a WD10000AAKS though.

I hope I can buy a 2 platter 1TB HDD soon, preferable a FALS though.

[m^2]

Registry bloat, files that get buried deep within the OS that can never get removed, etc...Yes it can live for years, but performance will slowly degrade. The difference between a New install, and a 1 year old install, running the same programs is quite amazing at times

As I said, keep it clean. My computer is ~9 months now and many have more bloated registry at the day of installation.

[tmgp]

just got this email from seagate:

the 7200.12 barracuda 1TB, and the 750 GB are scheduled for launch at the end of Jan, 09 ST31000523AS and ST 3750523AS

they should probably be annoucend at CES 09

[Biker]

Available here

$64.99 ... Yum ;p

[Mad1723]

Prices are nice, now let's see reliability

[MaxxxRacer]

you are correct... but I bet you didn't know is vista x64 can't even boot off of GPT partitions lol. that means for vista x64 you need a <=2TB drive to boot it

If your OS drive is greather than 2TB you need to be slaped with a rotten and then frozen trout. There is just no excuse for that level of stupidity, and here is why: to get a 2TB boot drive you have to be intellegent enough to setup a raid with atleast 2 drives (lets assume two of those POS 1.5TB seagates). So if you can setup a raid and you choose to make that raid over 2TB you poo diamonds.

p.s. sorry for the speling erars

[Rob1106]

Curious to see when they will actually have 2TB and even 2.5TB on the market...

[generics_user]

sounds interesting, my 640gb F1s are running out of space and i need a replacement...

question is: 4 momentus 7200.4 (7200 rpm 2.5" 500gb each, raid 10) or 2 7200.12 drives

i guess have to wait for spcr to test the barracuda drive until i make my decision and stop using azureus for a few weeks

[VisBits]

I want to see a 2TB WD drive. I don't like how seagate initially responded to the issues with the 1.5TB drive so I'm not going to use them for a while if ever again.

Just because they had one batch of sketchy firmware does not mean you should abandon the company, Pretty lame move on your part honestly.

I'm excited about these large capacity drives. My hosting company already runs large 10tb raid 5 arrays of 1.5TB drives for backups ect.

[ecidious]

Just because they had one batch of sketchy firmware does not mean you should abandon the company, Pretty lame move on your part honestly.

He's referring to the initial blame the user and/or "problem, what problem?" responses, just like what OCZ started with their SSDs although many times worse because Seagate had a better reputation for making good products and standing behind them.

That aside, I just sold my extra Seagate 1TB drives so I'm hoping 2TB GP drives hit soon from WD so I can consolidate backup drives.

[RealTelstar]

Good, 2TB drives are just what i need

[onethreehill]

SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif. - January 5, 2009 - Seagate (NASDAQ:STX) today announced first-to-market volume shipments of a mainstream desktop hard drive with the industry’s highest areal density. Packing 1TB of capacity on just two disks, Seagate’s Barracuda ® 7200.12 HD, a 3.5-inch 7200-RPM drive features an areal density of 329 Gigabits per square inch to deliver the best combination of capacity, performance and reliability for PCs, desktop RAID and personal external storage.

“Demand for more desktop PC storage capacity is far from letting up as computer users worldwide generate massive amounts of digital content every day,” said Tom Major, Seagate vice president , Personal Compute Business. “Seagate is leading the industry with new storage solutions designed to store, share and manage all of that business- and user-generated content.”

The Barracuda 7200.12 hard drive provides a stellar combination of storage capacity and speed required for today’s most demanding desktop PC applications. The drive’s Serial ATA 3Gb/second interface delivers an industry-leading sustained data rate of up to 160MB/second for fast boot, application startup and file access and a burst speed of 3Gb/second. The 3.5-inch drive is also offered in capacities of 750GB and 500GB with cache options of 32MB and 16MB.

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...00f5ee0a0aRCRD

[Boissez]

160 MB/s sounds yummy

[safan80]

If your OS drive is greather than 2TB you need to be slaped with a rotten and then frozen trout. There is just no excuse for that level of stupidity, and here is why: to get a 2TB boot drive you have to be intellegent enough to setup a raid with atleast 2 drives (lets assume two of those POS 1.5TB seagates). So if you can setup a raid and you choose to make that raid over 2TB you poo diamonds.

p.s. sorry for the speling erars

lol good point.

Just because they had one batch of sketchy firmware does not mean you should abandon the company, Pretty lame move on your part honestly.

Linux users were the first to report the problem and seagate claimed that it was a Linux problem and that they did not support Linux. Once windows users reported the problem seagate took their time fixing it. Also they've reduced their warranty period from 5 to 3 years. Lately they've had problems with quality control and drive failures. Wanting to sue SSD makers.. etc. I have more reasons to not buy seagate for the time being, but it's not because of one single issue it's because of their attitude of late.

[onethreehill]

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Tested
http://www.puissance-pc.net/les-doss...html?Itemid=57

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[Mad1723]

I'm french, read the article, and I can say that it really is weird results. They get good results, but not quite like expected. As they said, they could have blamed the young firmware, but apparently, some people in Japan got the drives early and got the same results with retail drives. So apparently, they're good, but far from the best :P

[onethreehill]

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB Tested
http://publish.it168.com/2009/0106/20090106000901.shtml

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[toyotabedzrock]

Vista x64 can boot from GPT drives over 2gb, provided you have a efi bios. MSI has a few efi capable boards.

There is 2 versions of the 7200.12 drive apparently. The ST3500410AS and ST3500418AS. I ran some benches on the ST3500410AS. The last 2 are in a zip file since i had maximized HDTune and the screen shot would have been a bit big.

Also HDTune seems unable to test burst rates on my system. In HDTach they are about double the HDTune reading. I have a SM X7DAE board running Vista x32.

[XS Janus]

here's to efi bios poking it shy head in our world!

[douirc]

Vista x64 can boot from GPT drives over 2gb, provided you have a efi bios. MSI has a few efi capable boards.

There is 2 versions of the 7200.12 drive apparently. The ST3500410AS and ST3500418AS. I ran some benches on the ST3500410AS. The last 2 are in a zip file since i had maximized HDTune and the screen shot would have been a bit big.

Also HDTune seems unable to test burst rates on my system. In HDTach they are about double the HDTune reading. I have a SM X7DAE board running Vista x32.

how do these results compare to the caviar black?

[DoubleZero]

Regular benchmarks, but impressive real world result:

http://publish.it168.com/2009/0106/20090106000911.shtml

[mrcape]

I'm running win7 on one of these little suckas on an open bench, works great, and so quiet compared to my raptors GEESH. It honestly makes me want to throw my raptors in the trash lol.

[toyotabedzrock]

I'm running win7 on one of these little suckas on an open bench, works great, and so quiet compared to my raptors GEESH. It honestly makes me want to throw my raptors in the trash lol.

I also installed Win7 right after i did those benchmarks, lol. Does yours have a low WEI score when the write cache is turned on? I noticed mine goes down to 2.9 in Win7 when it is, otherwise it is 5.9. Also which model did you get?

Is there any other benchmarks you guys wanna see? I am gonna zero fill it again before it gets Vista put on it, so it can be any read or write test.